# Red Rover, Red Rover, send Rand Rover over

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/red-rover-red-rover-send-rand-rover-over/490739>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 25, 2009, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/red-rover-red-rover-send-rand-rover-over/490739 "2009-03-25T15:22:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2009, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/red-rover-red-rover-send-rand-rover-over/490739/61 "2009-03-25T18:27:06Z")

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Anaamika, you are presuming much about my background that is simply not the case.

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**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2009, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/red-rover-red-rover-send-rand-rover-over/490739/62 "2009-03-25T18:27:58Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> And he’s married to. . .Morgan Fairchild! Yeah, that’s the ticket!

Wrong–Dabny Taggart. I hope he smokes. All Dabny’s real men smoke.

I think this article would have been written regardless. It should be–this is a very serious issue.

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**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2009, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/red-rover-red-rover-send-rand-rover-over/490739/63 "2009-03-25T18:34:21Z")

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> [@eleanorigby](#):
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> Wrong–Dabny Taggart. I hope he smokes. All Dabny’s real men smoke.  
> .

Dabny? Yeesh.

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2009, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/red-rover-red-rover-send-rand-rover-over/490739/64 "2009-03-25T18:34:51Z")

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> [@Rand\_Rover](#):
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> Anaamika, you are presuming much about my background that is simply not the case.

Funny, she didn’t mention much about your background.

Have you ever considered writing fiction? I mean, elsewhere?

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**Author:** ![ivn1188](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e480ec/32.png) [@ivn1188](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivn1188)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2009, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/red-rover-red-rover-send-rand-rover-over/490739/65 "2009-03-25T18:40:10Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> **TL;DR.**
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> And may I extend a hardy handshake of congratulations for some truly retarded Godwinizing at the end there.

Please look up the definition of Godwin’s law. But congrats, you’re getting better!

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2009, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/red-rover-red-rover-send-rand-rover-over/490739/66 "2009-03-25T18:40:22Z")

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> [@Rand\_Rover](#):
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> Do you people think the article would have been written if it was about a white guy with no kids?

Only the racist would think it wouldn’t.

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**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2009, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/red-rover-red-rover-send-rand-rover-over/490739/67 "2009-03-25T18:45:17Z")

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> [@Rand\_Rover](#):
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> Dabny? Yeesh.

:rolleyes: DAGNY. Whatever. Like it matters in the world.  
What are evicted tenants supposed to do, **O Wise Randman**? Roam the streets for handouts? Or just go off on an iceflow somewhere and die quietly? I truly don’t understand where her race comes into this. I worry for her kids–how horrid to have to pull up and start all over again at a new school–having no choice in the matter and no time to adjust. I wonder how you would have turned out if this kind of shit had ever happened to entitled white you?

Why do you have no sympathy for her? Do you have sympathy for the landlord–afterall, he has lost his ability to make money here! How horrible for him…

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2009, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/red-rover-red-rover-send-rand-rover-over/490739/68 "2009-03-25T18:57:09Z")

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> [@eleanorigby](#):
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> Why do you have no sympathy for her? Do you have sympathy for the landlord–afterall, he has lost his ability to make money here! How horrible for him…

Don’t you see? This is completely consistent with Rand Rover’s philosophy: everyone deserves the misery of their life, so sympathy is irrelevant. Misery would never happen if you took appropriate measures to avoid it, therefore, if misery happens, it’s your own damn fault.

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**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2009, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/red-rover-red-rover-send-rand-rover-over/490739/69 "2009-03-25T18:58:57Z")

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I am more than happy to know that RR has the courage of his heartless convictions. Why beg him to show conservative compassion for the less fortunate when such a thing does not actually exist? You are asking him to lie and not be true to himself. Just because some conservatives are able to fake compassion for public consumption doesn’t require all conservatives to do the same. RR has no pretense to fake compassion. He is a real conservative.

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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2009, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/red-rover-red-rover-send-rand-rover-over/490739/70 "2009-03-25T18:59:20Z")

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> [@Rand\_Rover](#):
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> Do you people think the article would have been written if it was about a white guy with no kids?

Well, if you change the person’s race, sex, and delete 3 of the 4 people being evicted, there might be a change in the press’s interest in printing a story about it.

Race had nothing to do with this story, it would have been equally (if not more) juicy if it was a white single mother with 3 adorable blond haired blue eyed little angels being tossed out on the street.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2009, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/red-rover-red-rover-send-rand-rover-over/490739/71 "2009-03-25T19:02:11Z")

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> [@ivn1188](#):
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> Please look up the definition of Godwin’s law. But congrats, you’re getting better!

> [@SteveG1](#):
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> Besides that, he Godwinized. So he automatically loses.  
> We win teh interwebs. 😃

> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> And may I extend a hardy handshake of congratulations for some truly retarded Godwinizing at the end there.

I’m sorry, we’ve reached another consensus. We now win 2 - 0. But thanks for playing.

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**Author:** ![ivn1188](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e480ec/32.png) [@ivn1188](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivn1188)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2009, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/red-rover-red-rover-send-rand-rover-over/490739/72 "2009-03-25T19:05:06Z")

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2-1, even if we accept your scoring. lern2basicmath.

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**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2009, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/red-rover-red-rover-send-rand-rover-over/490739/73 "2009-03-25T19:07:02Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> My point doesn’t suffer, **Rand** , if we limit ourselves to business-related tragedies. It remains precisely the same: you have set the sympathy bar far too high; you require not that the victim act reasonably, but that she act with near-perfect foresight.

That’s one of the requirements of being a Randroid, though. If it happens to someone else, it’s their own fault. If it happens to you, blame Socialism.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2009, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/red-rover-red-rover-send-rand-rover-over/490739/74 "2009-03-25T19:10:31Z")

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> [@Rand\_Rover](#):
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> Wow, didn’t expect this out of you Bricker,…

> [@Rand\_Rover](#):
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> Are you implying I am a scientologist?

Suck it up, dude; after all, you choose to post here.

> [@ivn1188](#):
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> As much of a cold condescending robot as **Rand Rover** (and I hate Ayn Rand) can be,…

Hey, leave the robots out of this.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2009, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/red-rover-red-rover-send-rand-rover-over/490739/75 "2009-03-25T19:15:13Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> “Consensus” – a joke because three people in a row (me included) pointed out the same thing, regarding **Rand Rover** being the one who brought up race in the other thread.

Actually, it was in the article linked in the OP.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2009, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/red-rover-red-rover-send-rand-rover-over/490739/76 "2009-03-25T19:16:23Z")

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> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#):
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> I am more than happy to know that RR has the courage of his heartless convictions. Why beg him to show conservative compassion for the less fortunate when such a thing does not actually exist? You are asking him to lie and not be true to himself. Just because some conservatives are able to fake compassion for public consumption doesn’t require all conservatives to do the same. RR has no pretense to fake compassion. He is a real conservative.

So as not to risk drawing an inference you did not intend, **The Second Stone** , I wonder if you might opine on the nature of my compassion.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2009, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/red-rover-red-rover-send-rand-rover-over/490739/77 "2009-03-25T19:17:25Z")

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> [@](#):
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> …Hey, leave the robots out of this.

I think they prefer the term Mechano-American.

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2009, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/red-rover-red-rover-send-rand-rover-over/490739/78 "2009-03-25T19:17:37Z")

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Slight hijack, but since RR chooses to remain a moron anyway…

People here seem to generally despise Ayn Rand. So how did Nathaniel Branden get to be so sane? Was he once as wackadoodle as Rand?

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2009, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/red-rover-red-rover-send-rand-rover-over/490739/79 "2009-03-25T19:22:37Z")

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> [@tdn](#):
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> People here seem to generally despise Ayn Rand. So how did Nathaniel Branden get to be so sane? Was he once as wackadoodle as Rand?

He left the Blessed Church of Rand, Galt and the Holy Dollar.  
He was a wackaloon when he was a randdroid, but he got better.  
Rand Rover, however, is still a newt.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2009, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/red-rover-red-rover-send-rand-rover-over/490739/80 "2009-03-25T19:24:24Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> Now, I’m sure **Rand Rover** is so fabulously wealthy, and will soon brag about how much he gives to charity, and yet he seems to have a congenital defect that prevents him from offering even one penny of sympathy to anyone.

Actually, I’m pretty sure he’s said he doesn’t give anything to charity.

> [@Bricker](#):
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> So as not to risk drawing an inference you did not intend, **The Second Stone** , I wonder if you might opine on the nature of my compassion.

Human. Compassion is not intrinsic to any political philosophy, in my opinion. People argue with it because they have it, or against it because they don’t.

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