# Red Rover, Red Rover, send Rand Rover over

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 25, 2009, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/red-rover-red-rover-send-rand-rover-over/490739 "2009-03-25T15:22:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_fun_ball/32/17664_2.png) [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Fun_Ball)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2009, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/red-rover-red-rover-send-rand-rover-over/490739/250 "2009-03-26T19:08:51Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> Well sure - the newspaper could print “So-and-so is black…” and you could ignore that too.

This is a statement about race. The newspaper is printing a factual statement that is calling the race of the person to the reader’s attention. A fucking picture of a person is NOT a comment about race, it is a picture of a person. If a picture of a person makes YOU think about that person’s race, this is YOUR deal, not the paper trying to make race a part of the story.

> [@Shodan](#):
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> I prefer to draw inferences about **your** character from the apparent fact that I cannot disagree with you on an obvious matter of fact without you starting the process of calling me a racist.

Where are you disagreeing with me? What obvious matter of fact? That the paper was making a statement about the woman’s race by printing a picture? Do you think that every time the Washington Post prints a picture of President Obama or Tiger Woods they are commenting on his race?

A fucking picture of someone is not a comment on the race of that person unless the viewer of the picture makes it so, which you obviously do. I don’t necessarily think this makes makes you a racist, but you sure seem to be preoccupied with race!

> [@Shodan](#):
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> Which is fine - you’re entitled to your opinion, even if you are stupid. Especially since it makes it clear that I was exactly correct. Bad father, racist, troll, sociopath, etc. - no doubt you’ll think of something else later. It can be. One of my favorite parts is the bull limping back to the other side of the corrida with eight pins stuck in his neck, one horn broken off short, and blood leaking from his anus, and the other bulls tell him "Good job! You sure showed that matador who’s boss!

For the record, I usually enjoy reading your posts and you have actually won me to your side on occasion, albeit rarely. Typically I think you have interesting, rational, viewpoint. Not a viewpoint that I can share, but one that I can at least understand. That said, in this case you are being a moron. Rand was the first person to bring race into the other thread. The newspaper, regardless of what you and Rand think, did not print her picture so that people would think:

> [@this is just horrible \[tenant evicted after landlord loses property in foreclosure\]](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/this-is-just-horrible-tenant-evicted-after-landlord-loses-property-in-foreclosure/490664/16):
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> Oh wait. I forgot to take into account that she’s black and rented the house for the children! I take it all back! Oh, my heart aches for this poor, poor, dear woman! Why, I have a couple of extra bedrooms! She and the children could live with me! She must be protected from her own decisions, for she is a female and is black and therefore does not know any better!

Finally, I don’t call names or make up titles unless they are justified. Bite me asshole.

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