# Red State social policies are driving young college grads away **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [December 22, 2023, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/red-state-social-policies-are-driving-young-college-grads-away/994973 "2023-12-22T05:19:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2023, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/red-state-social-policies-are-driving-young-college-grads-away/994973/21 "2023-12-22T22:56:57Z")
My MIL and SIL and family live in Florida and I can’t bring myself to visit them. It’s an extremely unappealing state. I don’t understand why they’re staying. My sister in law is a married lesbian with a kid on the way. All that fear and uncertainty is worth nice weather in the Winter? Just wait till the flooding starts. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2023, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/red-state-social-policies-are-driving-young-college-grads-away/994973/22 "2023-12-23T00:40:03Z")
I don’t think we can keep carrying red America, they are too backwards. We will not be able to compete in the 21sr century with the developed world. ---
**Author:** ![chappachula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d2c977/32.png) [@chappachula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chappachula)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2023, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/red-state-social-policies-are-driving-young-college-grads-away/994973/23 "2023-12-24T07:01:31Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > My MIL and SIL and family live in Florida and I can’t bring myself to visit them. It’s an extremely unappealing state. All that fear and uncertainty You cut off your family because of where they live? Fear and uncertainy about what? Hurricaines, or abortion laws? And for either of those reasons, a short visit shouldn’t be a problem. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2023, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/red-state-social-policies-are-driving-young-college-grads-away/994973/24 "2023-12-24T15:05:02Z")
> [@chappachula](#): > > You cut off your family because of where they live? > Fear and uncertainy about what? Hurricaines, or abortion laws? > And for either of those reasons, a short visit shouldn’t be a problem. Unless you’re black. > **[Jacksonville struggles to overcome a racism ‘baked into our culture’](https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/10/20/jacksonville-florida-racism-black-shooting/)** > > Nearly two months after a triple killing motivated by racial hatred, the city’s Black community wonders when Jacksonville will truly confront its past. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2023, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/red-state-social-policies-are-driving-young-college-grads-away/994973/25 "2023-12-24T19:23:15Z")
> [@chappachula](#): > > You cut off your family because of where they live? It’s not like I never see them. They come up periodically for big family events since most of their family lives here. Adding to that, I’m not ready to put my kid on a plane. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2024, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/red-state-social-policies-are-driving-young-college-grads-away/994973/26 "2024-02-25T15:11:35Z")
Another article, specifically about Idaho, with numbers: > [@](#): > > BOISE, Idaho. (AP) — More than 50 Idaho obstetricians have stopped practicing in the state since a near-total abortion ban took effect in August 2022, according to a newly released report. > > Data compiled by the Idaho Physician Well-Being Action Collaborative also shows that only two obstetricians moved to the state to practice in the last 15 months, the [Idaho Statesman reported](https://www.idahostatesman.com/living/health-fitness/article285692341.html) on Tuesday. Obstetricians provide health care during pregnancy and childbirth. > > The number of obstetricians in Idaho decreased from 227 in 2022 to about 176 in 2023, a decline of 51 doctors, the report said. The Idaho Physician Well-Being Action Collaborative was created in 2018 by local doctors to address problems affecting physicians and patients in Idaho communities, according to its website. > **[Dozens of Idaho obstetricians have stopped practicing there since abortions...](https://apnews.com/article/idaho-abortion-ban-doctors-leaving-f34e901599f5eabed56ae96599c0e5c2)** > > A new report says dozens of Idaho obstetricians have stopped practicing in the state since a near-total abortion ban took effect in August 2022. ---
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanubv.2/32/3260_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUBv.2)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2024, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/red-state-social-policies-are-driving-young-college-grads-away/994973/27 "2024-02-25T20:06:18Z")
I don’t mean to speak for @Spice_Weasel, but there is a hell of a lot to fear in Florida if you’re not a white, hetero Christian. There are a few friends I left behind there that I’d really like to see. They know it will be incumbent upon them to come to me, as I will not spend another cent in that befucked state. I lived there for 30 years, always wanting to leave and never being able to afford it. That asshole DeSantis and the idiots that voted for him made it an easy choice. I gave up a house, which I will probably never be able to replace and spent untold thousands to relocate to SoCal. People absolutely move for political reasons and a friend of mind is leaving her job of 30 years to relocate to the west coast. It really is that awful if politics is even a little bit important to you. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2024, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/red-state-social-policies-are-driving-young-college-grads-away/994973/28 "2024-02-26T00:47:31Z")
DeSantis and his stupidity is simply invisible in Miami-Dade, Broward, and Palm Beach Counties where I hang out. Are the rednecks out in the boonies all fired up on hate & stupidity? you bet, but who cares? They’re not who brings the money that makes the state go. ---
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanubv.2/32/3260_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUBv.2)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2024, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/red-state-social-policies-are-driving-young-college-grads-away/994973/29 "2024-02-26T21:49:09Z")
I’m glad to hear the insanity hasn’t contaminated your area yet, however Tampa Bay is hardly the boonies and it is most definitely an area whose money makes the state go. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/red-state-social-policies-are-driving-young-college-grads-away/994973.md?page=1)