# Red Tails **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 5, 2012, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/red-tails/608441 "2012-01-05T00:03:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![UncleRojelio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unclerojelio/32/3160_2.png) [@UncleRojelio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleRojelio)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2012, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/red-tails/608441/1 "2012-01-05T00:03:46Z")
I heard this was on the way and just caught the trailer. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/BpA6TC0T_Lw/maxresdefault.jpg "Red Tails (2012) HD Movie Trailer - Lucasfilm Official Trailer") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpA6TC0T_Lw) I can’t wait. Even if it turns out to be a little Pearl Harborish. ---
**Author:** ![obfusciatrist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2012, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/red-tails/608441/2 "2012-01-05T00:46:10Z")
The trailer is so glurgy that I’m almost completely put off even though I have a soft spot for this subgenre of war movie. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2012, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/red-tails/608441/3 "2012-01-05T00:52:10Z")
Will it offer anything not already depicted in HBO’s _[The Tuskegee Airmen](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0114745/)_? ---
**Author:** ![UncleRojelio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unclerojelio/32/3160_2.png) [@UncleRojelio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleRojelio)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2012, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/red-tails/608441/4 "2012-01-05T01:17:59Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Will it offer anything not already depicted in HBO’s _[The Tuskegee Airmen](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0114745/)_? Better special effects maybe. Either way, I’ll be there. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2012, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/red-tails/608441/5 "2012-01-05T02:58:33Z")
I’m rather curious to see something George Lucas is involved in that isn’t Star Wars or Indiana Jones. Thank the movie-gods he didn’t write the screenplay or direct it. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2012, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/red-tails/608441/6 "2012-01-05T04:37:42Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > I’m rather curious to see something George Lucas is involved in that isn’t Star Wars or Indiana Jones. > > Thank the movie-gods he didn’t write the screenplay or direct it. He apparently based the Millenium Falcon X Wing battles on WWII Ariel combat. BTW did the Tuskegee Airmen ever engage Me-262s? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2012, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/red-tails/608441/7 "2012-01-05T14:59:45Z")
> [@UncleRojelio](#): > > Better special effects maybe. Either way, I’ll be there. _ugh_ I saw the trailer. I wish the people who create the computer-generated images would learn how airplanes move. As a pilot who grew up watching airplane movies made with real airplanes (as well as countless hours of newsreel footage in documentaries), CGI airplanes bug the hell out of me. They just don’t move right. (Not to mention a scene in _Pearl Harbor_ where a guy is shooting at a Japanese plane and _completely missing_ the ship that was directly behind it.) But I’ll see _Red Tails_. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2012, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/red-tails/608441/8 "2012-01-05T15:04:05Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > BTW did the Tuskegee Airmen ever engage Me-262s? On 24 March, 1945 Roscoe C. Brown, Jr., Charles Brantly, and Earl Lane each shot down a Messerschmitt Me-262. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2012, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/red-tails/608441/9 "2012-01-05T15:04:11Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > He apparently based the Millenium Falcon X Wing battles on **WWII Ariel** combat. She doesn’t look [nearly old enough](http://images.wikia.com/disney/images/0/05/800px-ArielKHII.PNG) to have fought in World War 2! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2012, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/red-tails/608441/10 "2012-01-05T17:01:07Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > I’m rather curious to see something George Lucas is involved in that isn’t Star Wars or Indiana Jones. And he’s been working on it for a _very long time_. I remember reading issues of Star Wars Insider (the Star Wars Fan Club magazine) in the mid-to-late '90s, in which _Red Tails_ was always mentioned as another project which Lucas had in development (and, apparently, he’d been working on it [as far back as 1988](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Tails#Production)). Frankly, I’m amazed that he finally made it. ---
**Author:** ![UncleRojelio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unclerojelio/32/3160_2.png) [@UncleRojelio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleRojelio)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2012, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/red-tails/608441/11 "2012-01-05T17:21:49Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > On 24 March, 1945 Roscoe C. Brown, Jr., Charles Brantly, and Earl Lane each shot down a Messerschmitt Me-262. The History Channel show _Dogfights_ has a reenactment of the engagement. https://www.youtube.com/embed/FACecpfY_HA?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque ---
**Author:** ![jharvey963](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/54ee81/32.png) [@jharvey963](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jharvey963)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2012, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/red-tails/608441/12 "2012-01-05T18:56:58Z")
The previews look OK, but the fact that they are releasing it in January is concerning. That’s when studios release all of their crap movies. I’ll probably still go to see it, but I don’t have high hopes. J. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2012, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/red-tails/608441/13 "2012-01-05T19:22:14Z")
> [@jharvey963](#): > > The previews look OK, but the fact that they are releasing it in January is concerning. That’s when studios release all of their crap movies. Maybe they’re just a little early for Black History Month. ---
**Author:** ![Hi\_Medlo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hi\_Medlo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hi_Medlo)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2012, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/red-tails/608441/14 "2012-01-05T21:49:20Z")
I’m a little concerned about some of the unrealistic aerial maneuvers I saw in the trailer, but I admire those guys so much (even met a couple of them) that I’ll still see the movie. ---
**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2012, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/red-tails/608441/15 "2012-01-05T21:57:22Z")
War movie without a love story? War movie without a love story _and_ bombers! I’m so in. ---
**Author:** ![UncleRojelio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unclerojelio/32/3160_2.png) [@UncleRojelio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleRojelio)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2012, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/red-tails/608441/16 "2012-01-05T22:40:28Z")
> [@RandMcnally](#): > > War movie without a love story? > > War movie without a love story _and_ bombers! > > I’m so in. There might still be a love story. There are a number of female roles listed on the Wikipedia page. ---
**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2012, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/red-tails/608441/17 "2012-01-05T23:56:38Z")
Some studios have counter-programed the “Crapuary” tradition by releasing good movies in the post-Christmas/pre-summer season. I know I hate all the Oscar candidates being lumped into two months, and really good films disappear in the scrum. **Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy** is a great film, and most of it’s audience will not be able to see it until late January or early February. They don’t just put bad films the months in which you shouldn’t eat oysters, but films they just _don’t know how to sell_. WWII is not a great subject for the teens, and a mostly Black cast is a tough sell for anyone other than Tyler Perry - which is why _The Tuskegee Airmen_ was on HBO. ---
**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2012, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/red-tails/608441/18 "2012-01-05T23:57:40Z")
> [@UncleRojelio](#): > > There might still be a love story. There are a number of female roles listed on the Wikipedia page. What? Brave, dashing young fighter pilots are attractive to women? ---
**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2012, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/red-tails/608441/19 "2012-01-06T00:30:41Z")
> [@UncleRojelio](#): > > There might still be a love story. There are a number of female roles listed on the Wikipedia page. Forbidden gay black fighter pilot romance will make big bucks. It’s gonna flying Brokeback Mountain! ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2012, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/red-tails/608441/20 "2012-01-06T01:07:13Z")
They coulda called it _On the Down High_ ! [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/red-tails/608441.md?page=2)