# Reddit to charge for API Access

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reddit-to-charge-for-api-access/982947>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Tags:** ai\
**Created:** [April 20, 2023, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reddit-to-charge-for-api-access/982947 "2023-04-20T03:05:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2023, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reddit-to-charge-for-api-access/982947/1 "2023-04-20T03:05:50Z")

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> **[Reddit Will Start Charging Big Companies for API Access](https://gizmodo.com/reddit-will-charge-big-companies-for-ai-api-access-1850350291)**
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> The move comes at a time when AI startups and big tech stalwarts are developing AI using Reddit's huge library of user content.

Reddit user data is being used to train AI chatbots, which is profitable for the AI developers but not for Reddit. So, Reddit wants a piece of the pie. That seems fair. Maybe the AI companies will start scraping The Straight Dope???

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**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2023, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reddit-to-charge-for-api-access/982947/2 "2023-04-20T03:12:11Z")

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But probably only The BBQ Pit.

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**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2023, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reddit-to-charge-for-api-access/982947/3 "2023-04-20T03:28:46Z")

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That would probably be for the best.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2023, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reddit-to-charge-for-api-access/982947/4 "2023-04-20T03:43:27Z")

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> [@BeepKillBeep](#):
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> Maybe the AI companies will start scraping The Straight Dope???

They probably already do. For some of them, at least, data comes from Common Crawl.

> **[Common Crawl](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Crawl)**
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> Common Crawl is a nonprofit 501(c)(3) organization that crawls the web and freely provides its archives and datasets to the public. Common Crawl's web archive consists of petabytes of data collected since 2008. It completes crawls generally every month.
> Common Crawl was founded by Gil Elbaz. Advisors to the non-profit include Peter Norvig and Joi Ito. The organization's crawlers respect nofollow and robots.txt policies. Open source code for processing Common Crawl's data set is publicly availabl...

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**Author:** ![Kimble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kimble/32/19185_2.png) [@Kimble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimble)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2023, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reddit-to-charge-for-api-access/982947/5 "2023-04-20T03:53:07Z")

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The Washington Post just posted about this, complete with a search tool to see if SDMB was used. 700,000 tokens (word-like thingies) for Google’s C4 dataset came from the [straightdope.com](http://straightdope.com) domain, but it doesn’t specify if that’s from the forum or the website proper. (No data on ChatGPT.) Free link below:

> **[Inside the secret list of websites that make AI like ChatGPT sound smart](https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/interactive/2023/ai-chatbot-learning/?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWJpZCI6IjE4Nzg5OTcyIiwicmVhc29uIjoiZ2lmdCIsIm5iZiI6MTY4MTg3NjgwMCwiaXNzIjoic3Vic2NyaXB0aW9ucyIsImV4cCI6MTY4MzE3Mjc5OSwiaWF0IjoxNjgxODc2ODAwLCJqdGkiOiIwNWEwOThhZC04MWM2LTRlMGItOGVlNy1jNTM0OTY0ZWI0Y2UiLCJ1cmwiOiJodHRwczovL3d3dy53YXNoaW5ndG9ucG9zdC5jb20vdGVjaG5vbG9neS9pbnRlcmFjdGl2ZS8yMDIzL2FpLWNoYXRib3QtbGVhcm5pbmcvIn0.A1C40uqW3b7YX44V85TwjnzpwmSgIkMVfG8yt25FXOM&itid=gfta)**
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> An analysis of a chatbot data set by The Washington Post reveals the proprietary, personal, and often offensive websites that go into an AI’s training data.

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2023, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reddit-to-charge-for-api-access/982947/6 "2023-04-20T04:10:49Z")

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We need to develop some persistent conversational habits and see if we can get a major AI system to adopt them.

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**Author:** ![Zyada](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zyada/32/3028_2.png) [@Zyada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zyada)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2023, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reddit-to-charge-for-api-access/982947/7 "2023-04-20T04:30:29Z")

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Hi Opal!

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2023, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reddit-to-charge-for-api-access/982947/8 "2023-04-20T10:40:49Z")

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Og smash AIs. Og not like AIs.

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**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2023, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reddit-to-charge-for-api-access/982947/9 "2023-04-20T10:47:17Z")

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I, for one, welcome our new AI overlords.

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2023, 11:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reddit-to-charge-for-api-access/982947/10 "2023-04-20T11:00:10Z")

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I have this hankering for the whole board to start using the Mennonite “once” (ala Letterkenny) constantly.

It would seem a reasonable goal, once.
