# Redesigned ESPN.com **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [January 20, 2006, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redesigned-espn-com/340906 "2006-01-20T22:30:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2006, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redesigned-espn-com/340906/21 "2006-01-23T20:55:32Z")
> [@GorillaMan](#): > > So, I want to check yesterday’s football scores. I go to ‘soccer’ on the menu and choose England. I get a page with lots of stories, all about the premiership. I then have to go to England on the menu (didn’t I already ask for that? :dubious: ), and ‘results grid’, then Championship from the drop-down menu. Nope, that doesn’t have them sorted by date, and has silly three-letter codes (Sheffield Wednesday = SHE, Sheff Utd = SHE…great). Ahh, I spot another meny which has appeared directly below the previous one, with ‘Scores’ on it. That’s given me the results. > > Yeah, easy peasy. > > I’m not making this up - this is exactly what I did just now, to test whether my first impressions were wrong. Oh, and when I went to the ‘report’ for the Ipswich match, it had the wrong result in the headline. I’ll still go [here](http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport/) for a simple clean site which presents the information in an obvious way. Well, to be fair you’re looking for English soccer scores on an American sports site. Proportionally very few of the site’s readers are interested in footie results, especially those from outside the USA. Of course ESPN might be well served to improve their Euro sports content, but it is what it is now. Additionally, there’s surely a learning curve on any website, especially one that tries to be a portal to all things sports. For example in order to achieve the goal you were looking for there’s a much easier way to go about it. Two actually: 1. Scroll down the home page to the “Soccer” section of the headlines. Select from the header “scores” and on that page select “Championship” from the “Jump to Scores” drop down. Done. 2. Select “Scoreboards” from the “Soccer” menu. Then select the “Championship” option from the “Jump to Scores” dropdown. Done. ---
**Author:** ![Neurotik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@Neurotik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neurotik)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2006, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redesigned-espn-com/340906/22 "2006-01-23T21:11:21Z")
> [@GorillaMan](#): > > I’m not making this up - this is exactly what I did just now, to test whether my first impressions were wrong. Oh, and when I went to the ‘report’ for the Ipswich match, it had the wrong result in the headline. I’ll still go [here](http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport/) for a simple clean site which presents the information in an obvious way. Well, I was talking about the old format being easier to use, not this one. But it took me five seconds to get the scores from today. Just hit the “Soccer” drop down and clicked on “Scoreboard.” It gives me the scores from the Africa Cup of Nations games played today, plus the score from the Westham-Fulham game in the Premiership. If I want yesterday’s scores (Sunday’s) I click on the link to Sunday. Then I get African Cup of Nations, English Premier, Scottish Premier, Spanish Primera, Serie A, etc. I see that Chelsea tied Carlton and Man U defeated Liverpool. I dunno, it was all intuitive for me. Plus, as **Omniscient** said, it’s a US site for US sports. ---
**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2006, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redesigned-espn-com/340906/23 "2006-01-23T22:48:45Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > Well, to be fair you’re looking for English soccer scores on an American sports site. That’s funny. The title bar says “ESPN: The Worldwide Leader in Sports”. That it is an American company is no more meaningful than if you were to tell me that CNN is ‘American news’. Admittedly, [www.espn.co.uk](http://www.espn.co.uk) redirects to Soccernet, but this doesn’t avoid what I see as basic design flaws. > [@](#): > > Additionally, there’s surely a learning curve on any website Why? [quoute]1) **Scroll down** the home page to the “Soccer” section of the headlines. … [/quote] If the page requires scrolling just to find basic navigation buttons, it’s too big. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2006, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redesigned-espn-com/340906/24 "2006-01-23T23:53:42Z")
> [@GorillaMan](#): > > If the page requires scrolling just to find basic navigation buttons, it’s too big. Eh, I’m past the whole “below the fold” web design philosophy. I think designers try too hard to get content to the top of the screen to the detriment of the overall layout and flow. Gone are the days before scroll mice. I prefer more content. ---
**Author:** ![Neurotik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@Neurotik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neurotik)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2006, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redesigned-espn-com/340906/25 "2006-01-24T01:05:08Z")
> [@GorillaMan](#): > > That’s funny. The title bar says “ESPN: The Worldwide Leader in Sports”. That it is an American company is no more meaningful than if you were to tell me that CNN is ‘American news’. Admittedly, [www.espn.co.uk](http://www.espn.co.uk) redirects to Soccernet, but this doesn’t avoid what I see as basic design flaws. Not to defend the website too much, but I don’t see the basic design flaw that you’re talking about. Go to [espn.com](http://espn.com) and along the top there are nav bars for each sport. Roll over the “Soccer” on then go to “Scoreboard” on the drop down menu. Boom. Today’s scores. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redesigned-espn-com/340906.md?page=1)