# Redfury and Der Trilhs: Cunts

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redfury-and-der-trilhs-cunts/375184>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 4, 2006, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redfury-and-der-trilhs-cunts/375184 "2006-10-04T00:53:44Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2006, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redfury-and-der-trilhs-cunts/375184/41 "2006-10-04T14:47:58Z")

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[QUOTE=Starving Artist]  
Wow! Another macho threat-in-(transparent)-disguise from **RedFury**.

You’re such a he-man, **Red**! Why don’t you just hop on a plane and come kick all our asses here? Think of the time it would save.

You recently implied a threat (while denying it at the same time) against both [**Shodan** and me](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7817763&postcount=282), and now you want to ‘meet’ **Ryan** …and you suggest that he would be unable to return afterward.

What a _badass_ you are!  
[/QUOTE]  
Wow, I didn’t realize I had so much to fear from **RedFury**.

[patient, supportive voice to **RedFury**]-

Now you know there is no reason to feel inferior or _any less a man_ just because your penis is that size.

You just keep looking, and you will find a woman (or boy, or sheep, or whatever) who can look past your shortcomings and accept you as you are. Or at least accept your credit card. Until then, you just read the iinflation nstructions for your companion a little more carefully, and all will be well in a jiffy.

[/psvt **RF**]

😃

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2006, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redfury-and-der-trilhs-cunts/375184/42 "2006-10-04T14:52:43Z")

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One should always pay careful heed to the advise of the experienced and knowledgeable.

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**Author:** ![Puzzler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d07c76/32.png) [@Puzzler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Puzzler)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2006, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redfury-and-der-trilhs-cunts/375184/43 "2006-10-04T15:18:14Z")

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[QUOTE=Gary Kumquat]  
If someone believes that military action is called for, then really they should consider volunteering to assist .  
[/QUOTE]

Huh? So, if one belives crime should be fought, then s/he should consider quitting his/hers job and join the police?

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**Author:** ![Excalibre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Excalibre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Excalibre)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2006, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redfury-and-der-trilhs-cunts/375184/44 "2006-10-04T15:35:39Z")

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[QUOTE=Caridwen]  
I think your an asshole for posting a link to someone’s picture and making personal cracks about them regardless of the topic. What are you, 12?  
[/QUOTE]

I don’t think Ryan\_Liam has quite reached that age, at least not mentally.

It’s fascinating to me to see that so many righties here on the SDMB are willing to have anything to do with Ryan\_Liam, much less actually agreeing with him. The funny thing that Ryan\_Liam and duffer and pals don’t seem to realize is that they’re the Der Trihs and Redfury of the other side of the aisle. (More specifically, duffer corresponds to Redfury, while Ryan\_Liam corresponds to Der Trihs.) Personally, I don’t like extremist morons of either stripe. But as long as they’re focused on hating each other, the rest of us can do our own thing in peace.

> [@Sarahfeena](#):
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> I’m not one to worry too much about political correctness. But a man calling another man a female body part because it is the worst possible thing he say about a guy, that is really pretty damn offensive.

And, as you pointed out in another thread - something I totally agree with you on - the word “cunt” is simply a much more serious insult than the word “dick”. Compare how often you hear one or the other on TV. It’s interesting to see that the word for male genitalia is not a particularly severe insult, whereas the word for female genitalia is. Things don’t always work exactly the same way if you switch genders around.

> [@mhendo](#):
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> But Jesus, duffer, you’re being an idiot here.

Show of hands: who’s shocked?

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**Author:** ![Ryan\_Liam](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ryan_liam/32/3965_2.png) [@Ryan\_Liam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ryan_Liam)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2006, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redfury-and-der-trilhs-cunts/375184/45 "2006-10-04T21:38:42Z")

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> **Excalibre**  
> I don’t think Ryan\_Liam has quite reached that age, at least not mentally.

:rolleyes:

> [@](#):
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> It’s fascinating to me to see that so many righties here on the SDMB are willing to have anything to do with Ryan\_Liam, much less actually agreeing with him. The funny thing that Ryan\_Liam and duffer and pals don’t seem to realize is that they’re the Der Trihs and Redfury of the other side of the aisle.

Please don’t associate me with the likes of Der Trihs or Redfury, because I am not even at their level ridiculousness.

(

> [@](#):
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> More specifically, duffer corresponds to Redfury, while Ryan\_Liam corresponds to Der Trihs.) Personally, I don’t like extremist morons of either stripe. But as long as they’re focused on hating each other, the rest of us can do our own thing in peace.

I always associated extremity with the Nazi-Skin heads, but then again I’ve been compared to that on this board more than enough times, water off a ducks back.

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> And, as you pointed out in another thread - something I totally agree with you on - the word “cunt” is simply a much more serious insult than the word “dick”. Compare how often you hear one or the other on TV. It’s interesting to see that the word for male genitalia is not a particularly severe insult, whereas the word for female genitalia is. Things don’t always work exactly the same way if you switch genders around.

This is what I love about SDMB sometimes, you’ll say an off the cuff remark about someone, and then the next 5 to 6 posts will be psychoanalysing the word and its implications in society and the world in general.

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> **Bryan Ekers**  
> Stalin wore sunglasses?

Maybe in Abkhasia.

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> **alice\_in\_wonderland**
> 
> K - I’m gonna be creepy internet stalker girl…
> 
> Ryan\_Liam you need to e-mail me, K?

No Problemo. 🙂

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2006, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redfury-and-der-trilhs-cunts/375184/46 "2006-10-04T21:54:14Z")

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[QUOTE=Mark Twain]  
…O Lord our Father, our young patriots, idols of our hearts, go forth to battle – be Thou near them! With them – in spirit – we also go forth from the sweet peace of our beloved firesides to smite the foe. O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it – for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen…  
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Go forth and kill some more.

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**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2006, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redfury-and-der-trilhs-cunts/375184/47 "2006-10-04T21:58:52Z")

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[QUOTE=RedFury]  
… if you’d like to meet IRL, just e-mail me. I’ll give all the particulars and might even pay for your plane ride. One way. How or if you get back is no business of mine.  
[/QUOTE]  
Threatening other posters is not allowed on this board. This is an official warning, **RedFury** – cool it, and do not do this again.

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2006, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redfury-and-der-trilhs-cunts/375184/48 "2006-10-04T22:01:30Z")

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[QUOTE=fluiddruid]  
Threatening other posters is not allowed on this board. This is an official warning, **RedFury** – cool it, and do not do this again.  
[/QUOTE]

But cheering on the butchering of thousands of innocents is.

Love the priorities…

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**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2006, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redfury-and-der-trilhs-cunts/375184/49 "2006-10-04T23:37:34Z")

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[QUOTE=mhendo]  
But Jesus, **duffer** , you’re being an idiot here.

How the fuck do you know it’s his pool/hot-tub? The only people assuming it’s his are the moron OP and you.  
[/QUOTE]

Jesus, take a fucking breather and get laid. He either owns the fucking thing or he doesn’t and I made the comment based on if he owned it. No more idiotic than you automatically assuming he doesn’t own a hottub.

Get a fucking grip shithead.

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**Author:** ![Excalibre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Excalibre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Excalibre)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2006, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redfury-and-der-trilhs-cunts/375184/50 "2006-10-04T23:57:20Z")

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[QUOTE=Ryan\_Liam]  
Please don’t associate me with the likes of Der Trihs or Redfury, because I am not even at their level ridiculousness.  
[/QUOTE]

It’s funny how extremists and wackos never recognize it in themselves . . .

> [@duffer](#):
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> Jesus, take a fucking breather and get laid. He either owns the fucking thing or he doesn’t and I made the comment based on if he owned it. No more idiotic than you automatically assuming he doesn’t own a hottub.

Um, nothing in what mhendo said even resembles an assumption that RedFury doesn’t own the hot tub. If you weren’t a mindless partisan absolutely desperate for any single shred of a reason to insult someone because he doesn’t share your politics, you’d recognize that it doesn’t matter in the first place.

You and RedFury should get married. You’d be perfect for each other.

> [@](#):
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> Get a fucking grip shithead.

What’s funny and sad is that your total inability to examine your own behavior still shocks me. It’s like you constantly reach new lows. Why not try acting like a reasonable adult, duffer? At very least, since it’s obvious to everyone (except perhaps you) that you don’t understand political issues and that you can’t address them honestly or productively, why not stay out of threads revolving around politics? Are you just bound and determined to continuously make yourself look like an idiot?

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**Author:** ![Ryan\_Liam](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ryan_liam/32/3965_2.png) [@Ryan\_Liam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ryan_Liam)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2006, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redfury-and-der-trilhs-cunts/375184/51 "2006-10-05T00:23:12Z")

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> **Excalibre**  
> It’s funny how extremists and wackos never recognize it in themselves . . .

Maybe because I don’t consider myself a Nazi Bigot.

:rolleyes: You apply a term that can be used on anyone, even _yourself_.

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> **RedFury**  
> But cheering on the butchering of thousands of innocents is.
> 
> Love the priorities…

Please just _shut the fuck up_ right now. Because whatever I have said about Iraq has never even been remotely close to what you’re describing, and you know it. Hence why you’re a cunt, you don’t see the input at all, all you do is stomp your feet or play martyr.

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2006, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redfury-and-der-trilhs-cunts/375184/52 "2006-10-05T00:32:34Z")

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[QUOTE=Ryan\_Liam]  
Maybe because I don’t consider myself a Nazi Bigot.  
[/quote]

Funny that. Neither did they. The Originals of course.

> [@](#):
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> Please just _shut the fuck up_ right now. Because whatever I have said about Iraq has never even been remotely close to what you’re describing, and you know it. Hence why you’re a cunt, you don’t see the input at all, all you do is stomp your feet or play martyr.

You’re promoting the continuation of the invasion = “Stay the Course”

Stay The Course = Hundreds of liters of blood on your conscience. If you have one that is.

As for my being a “cunt”…whatever floats your boat, kid. Have fun jerking-off to my pic then.

PS-Take you like the jacuzzi? If so, I might be generous enough to send you the blueprints.

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**Author:** ![Excalibre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Excalibre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Excalibre)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2006, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redfury-and-der-trilhs-cunts/375184/53 "2006-10-05T01:30:04Z")

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[QUOTE=Ryan\_Liam]  
Maybe because I don’t consider myself a Nazi Bigot.  
[/quote]

Um, did I say that?

Oh. You think the only thing that counts as extremism is actually commiting genocide. Okay. I guess that’s why you haven’t ever bothered with any actual self-examination.

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> all you do is stomp your feet or play martyr.

Shit. It’s getting to the point that the folks that sell irony-meters actually recognize my face.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2006, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redfury-and-der-trilhs-cunts/375184/54 "2006-10-05T01:48:56Z")

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[QUOTE=duffer]  
Jesus, take a fucking breather and get laid. He either owns the fucking thing or he doesn’t and I made the comment based on if he owned it. No more idiotic than you automatically assuming he doesn’t own a hottub.  
[/QUOTE]  
As **Excalibre** pointed out, i never assumed any such thing. I simply pointed out that a picture of him in one doesn’t mean that he owns it.

Further, you use the assumption that he owned it to essentially make an accusation of hypocrisy against him, along of the lines of, “Well, you own a nice pool/hot-tub, and you’re a leftist, so therefore you must be a hypocrite.” That also is typical of the analytical complexity you bring to these boards. Moron.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2006, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redfury-and-der-trilhs-cunts/375184/55 "2006-10-05T01:51:33Z")

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[QUOTE=Ryan\_Liam]  
Please don’t associate me with the likes of Der Trihs or Redfury, because I am not even at their level [of] ridiculousness.

[/QUOTE]  
That is true. You take ridiculousness to a new level, all your own.

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**Author:** ![Excalibre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Excalibre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Excalibre)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2006, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redfury-and-der-trilhs-cunts/375184/56 "2006-10-05T02:29:50Z")

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[QUOTE=mhendo]  
As **Excalibre** pointed out, i never assumed any such thing. I simply pointed out that a picture of him in one doesn’t mean that he owns it.

Further, you use the assumption that he owned it to essentially make an accusation of hypocrisy against him, along of the lines of, “Well, you own a nice pool/hot-tub, and you’re a leftist, so therefore you must be a hypocrite.” That also is typical of the analytical complexity you bring to these boards. Moron.  
[/QUOTE]

I like this place because I’ve met a lot of very thoughtful people here of every political stripe. But Christ, the discussion always has to revolve around the mindless partisans and the crazy extremists. Nineteen reasonable, intelligent people and one wacko - and the discussion then inevitably revolves around the wacko. If only there were a rule against stupidity; then duffer, Der Trihs, Ryan\_Liam, et al. would be gone and we’d be able to have productive political discussions among people whose perspective is more complicated than just wanting their team to win.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2006, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redfury-and-der-trilhs-cunts/375184/57 "2006-10-05T06:38:15Z")

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Since when does owning a freaking hot tub make someone a millionaire? My aunt and uncle have a hot tub-and while they’re not hurting for money, they’re pretty much middle class.

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**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2006, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redfury-and-der-trilhs-cunts/375184/58 "2006-10-05T07:22:50Z")

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[QUOTE=Excalibre]  
You and RedFury should get married. You’d be perfect for each other.  
[/QUOTE]

Now there’s a challenge - picking an appropriate wedding present for Duffer and Redfury.

I reckon kitchen knives are out.

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**Author:** ![Ryan\_Liam](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ryan_liam/32/3965_2.png) [@Ryan\_Liam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ryan_Liam)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2006, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redfury-and-der-trilhs-cunts/375184/59 "2006-10-05T11:57:48Z")

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> **RedFury**
> 
> You’re promoting the continuation of the invasion = “Stay the Course”
> 
> Stay The Course = Hundreds of liters of blood on your conscience. If you have one that is.

Withdrawal without adequate institutions in place for Iraqi Government = _Hundreds of liters of blood on your conscience. If you have one that is._

What is it about that sentence do you not understand?

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> As for my being a “cunt”…whatever floats your boat, kid. Have fun jerking-off to my pic then.

Then you’re probably the ugliest woman I’ve ever seen 🙂

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> PS-Take you like the jacuzzi? If so, I might be generous enough to send you the blueprints.

Thank you for proving my point. Jacuzzis are alot more relaxing than having to go out and actually do something to bring the war to an end right? Because that’s what _you’re asking from me._

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> **mhendo**  
> That is true. You take ridiculousness to a new level, all your own.

Knew that was coming, so ok, tell me on what level I am comparable to those two dickheads?

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> **Excalibre**
> 
> Um, did I say that?
> 
> Oh. You think the only thing that counts as extremism is actually commiting genocide. Okay. I guess that’s why you haven’t ever bothered with any actual self-examination.

Oh, and I guess gross assumptions of my character is your department right?

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**Author:** ![LonesomePolecat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a88e57/32.png) [@LonesomePolecat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LonesomePolecat)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2006, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redfury-and-der-trilhs-cunts/375184/60 "2006-10-05T12:03:07Z")

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[QUOTE=RedFury]  
But cheering on the butchering of thousands of innocents is.

Love the priorities…  
[/QUOTE]

So you’re saying you should be allowed to threaten Dopers who don’t agree with you about the war? Or are you saying that no one should be allowed to express support for the war on the SDMB?

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