# RedFury, Xploder:  shame on you

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redfury-xploder-shame-on-you/317536>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 18, 2005, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redfury-xploder-shame-on-you/317536 "2005-08-18T03:31:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2005, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redfury-xploder-shame-on-you/317536/141 "2005-08-19T17:36:57Z")

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> [@RedFury](#):
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> I was actually poking a bit of fun at Sen McCarthy’s long lost love-child, **duffer**.

Damn you, you Spaniard, you! Hot coffee expelled from the nostrils HURTS!

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2005, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redfury-xploder-shame-on-you/317536/142 "2005-08-19T21:07:41Z")

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> [@Princhester](#):
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> See you there.

Great. The more the merrier.

Fair warning: BYOV

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> [@ETF](#):
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> Damn you, you Spaniard, you! Hot coffee expelled from the nostrils HURTS!

Thus the wisdom of my office beverage policy: Only Scotch on the rocks allowed.

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2005, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redfury-xploder-shame-on-you/317536/143 "2005-08-19T21:17:51Z")

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Sidenote to sensei **Spiritus** :

Thank you much for breaking my Pit cherry. Never knew being pitted could be so much fun.

Sort of explains why your bestest pal was addicted to them.

With my undying affection,

~The Turd.

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2005, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redfury-xploder-shame-on-you/317536/144 "2005-08-19T21:27:18Z")

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> [@Xploder](#):
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> To **wring** and **Hamadryad** :
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> :smack:
> 
> Like you two didn’t already know that my typing sucks.
> 
> sheesh  
> 😛

hey, I have misspellings/typos all the time, generally due to:

1. I don’t spell worth a damn.
2. my hands can get arthritic
3. Vision issues (which, due to some recent surgery, have mostly improved)
4. various issues w/computers (had a cranky laptop, one 'puter has cranky keyboard etc.).

My general stance wrt to misspellings (other than Tori), and typos is to ignore them.

unless they make a funny.

like they did here.

remember, we’re pals. right?

Right???

😉

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**Author:** ![Xploder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/a183cd/32.png) [@Xploder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xploder)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2005, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redfury-xploder-shame-on-you/317536/145 "2005-08-19T22:56:56Z")

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> [@wring](#):
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> 1. various issues w/computers (had a cranky laptop, one 'puter has cranky keyboard etc.).
> 
> unless they make a funny.
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> like they did here.
> 
> remember, we’re pals. right?
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> Right???
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> 😉

Well…maybe you should talk to **Cranky** about that hmmmm?

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**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2005, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redfury-xploder-shame-on-you/317536/146 "2005-08-19T22:57:13Z")

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> [@RedFury](#):
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> Thus the wisdom of my office beverage policy: Only Scotch on the rocks allowed.

I just\* knew\* there had to be some good in you. 😉

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**Author:** ![Xploder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/a183cd/32.png) [@Xploder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xploder)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2005, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redfury-xploder-shame-on-you/317536/147 "2005-08-19T23:21:53Z")

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> [@wring](#):
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> remember, we’re pals. right?
> 
> Right???
> 
> 😉

I forgot to ask…

WHERE THE HELL IS MY MUSTARD!!!

That is all.

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2005, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redfury-xploder-shame-on-you/317536/148 "2005-08-20T01:21:37Z")

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> [@duffer](#):
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> I just\* knew\* there had to be some good in you. 😉

Well thanks and yep, right about now I’ve got three fingers of good in me: J&B to be precise _and_, hopefully to preempt the obvious followups.

Not that there’s anything wrong with that. I mean the followups. Erm…or the finger/s thingie either.

Know what? Fuck it. This is hopeless. I’m a deadman.

_:::toasts Justerini & Brooks:::_

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2005, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redfury-xploder-shame-on-you/317536/149 "2005-08-20T03:24:11Z")

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> [@Xploder](#):
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> I forgot to ask…
> 
> WHERE THE HELL IS MY MUSTARD!!!
> 
> That is all.

mustard season= fall -

soon. 😉

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2005, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redfury-xploder-shame-on-you/317536/150 "2005-08-20T04:29:16Z")

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> [@](#):
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> WHERE THE HELL IS MY MUSTARD!!!

In the Library with the Lead Pipe.

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**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2005, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redfury-xploder-shame-on-you/317536/151 "2005-08-20T06:38:14Z")

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> [@RedFury](#):
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> > [@Princhester](#):
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> > See you there.
> 
> Great. The more the merrier.

Hey! Who are you calling **Princhester**? And why?

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2005, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redfury-xploder-shame-on-you/317536/152 "2005-08-20T07:16:30Z")

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> [@Priceguy](#):
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> Hey! Who are you calling **Princhester**? And why?

You. Because it was _my_ fuckin’ dream to begin with, **wiseguy**!

apologies, Priceguy

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**Author:** ![Xploder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/a183cd/32.png) [@Xploder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xploder)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2005, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redfury-xploder-shame-on-you/317536/153 "2005-08-21T01:08:12Z")

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> [@tomndebb](#):
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> In the Library with the Lead Pipe.

But … but … I was looking for **MEAN MISTER** Mustard.

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**Author:** ![Spiritus\_Mundi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@Spiritus\_Mundi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiritus_Mundi)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2005, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redfury-xploder-shame-on-you/317536/154 "2005-08-21T16:40:58Z")

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My apologies. I had not intended to PIT and run. I shall try to catch up.

**Xploder**

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> Whoa! I’ve been here for a few years now and I believe that this is the first time that I’ve seen my name in a pit thread title.

You are welcome.

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> Think whatever the fuck you want, but I think that Liberal is, once again, talking out of his ass. I didn’t see him saying that he had a terminal illness. For all that YOU know, he may be anticipating the RAPTURE or some other fairy tale-like bullshit.

This is utterly irrelevant. I did not PIT you because we might disagree on whether **liberal** had a terminal illness.

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> The point is that YOU DON’T KNOW and neither do I.

No, the point is that the action you chose to take in the face of uncertainty was juvenile, mean-spirited, and repulsive.

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> Once again, Liberal finds himself getting his ass handed to him in a pit thread and responds with total non-sequiters and a bunch of lame bullshit that has nothing to do with the point of the op.

Your interpretation of who “won” that argument is also irrelevant. I did not PIT you because we might disagree on whether **liberal** had his ass handed to him.

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> Now tell me, what does [supportive emails] have to do with his seeming ability to hijack at will? Did YOU ask him if he ever got “unsolicited, supportive emails” from the admins? I know that I sure didn’t.

Hmmmm, what was that phrase again? Oh yeah, **”lame bullshit that has nothing to do with the point of the op.”**. I did not PIT you because we might disagree upon whether **liberal** received unsolicited, supportive emails.

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> Great way to get a thread closed…drop something into the thread that has nothing to do with the thread.

Once again, **”lame bullshit that has nothing to do with the point of the op.”**. I did not PIT you because we might disagree upon whether **liberal** was attempting to get the thread closed. Frankly, I was surprised to see that anyone objected to the closing of that thread.

Since you appear to have a difficulty reading with comprehension, perhaps a bulleted list will help:  
[ul][li]A human being posted a statement that he might not live more than a year or two longer.[/li][li]Neither you nor I know whether that prognosis is correct.[/li][li]You chose to express your skepticism through cruelty and profanity.[/li][li]I opened this thread to make one simple point.[/li][li]You should be ashamed of your behavior[/ul][/li]  
You might notice some things missing from that list. Things like:  
[ul][li]who was “winning” the other thread[/li][li]whether **liberal** hijacks threads.[/li][li]whether **liberal** has in fact been diagnosed with a specific fatal disease[/li][li]how you, I, or anyone else feels about **liberal** as a poster[/li][li]whether **liberal** was trying to get the previous thread closed.[/ul][/li]This is because none of those issues have any relevance to the OP. And, since you have posted at some length about your abhorrence for anyone who would dare to lead a thread away from the OP, I can only wonder at whether your proclivity for doing so indicates hypocrisy, stupidity, or a pathological inability to confront fault in your own behavior.

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> Also, if you all see what I said as being petty, vicious and devoid of compassion then more power to you. I don’t believe that I’m being petty when I post that he seems to, once again, manage to get a pit thread about HIM closed.

Once again, your inability to read with comprehension borders upon the amazing. Here are some hints:  
[ul][li]I issued the charge of “petty”[/li][li]I specifically quoted the exchange to which I objected.[/li][li]That exchange **preceded** the thread being closed[/li][li]Therefore, the pettiness in question **does not refer to either the thread closing or your reaction to same.** [/ul][/li]There’s a rather subtly concept in rational thought that requires a cause to actually happen before the effect. I understand that asking for rational thought from you is probably too much of a stretch, but maybe we can get a few of the simple things down first. Cause, then effect. Cause, then effect. Cause, then effect.

And, since you deficiencies in comprehension are apparently pervasive, here is another study guide: it is petty to allow a trivial dispute over posting style on an Internet message board to inspire cruelty on a matter of personal well-being. A man told you he expected to die soon. You don’t like the words that man has chosen to type. You lack sufficient ethical or emotional maturity to overcome the second in reacting to the first. That is petty.

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> I’m a pretty reasonable guy and I really don’t care about **liberal** one way or the other

I suppose we should add self-awareness to the list of your inadequacies. Your posts on this matter have been neither reasonable nor apathetic with regard to **liberal**.

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**Author:** ![Spiritus\_Mundi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@Spiritus\_Mundi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiritus_Mundi)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2005, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redfury-xploder-shame-on-you/317536/155 "2005-08-21T18:22:26Z")

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**RedFury**

> [@](#):
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> Mine mine, my first pitting in over four years here – at least that I am aware of

You are welcome, too.

> [@](#):
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> I think I’ll tell a little tale in hopes of putting things in proper context. Ya know, the context that’s lacking in all of the self-serving bullshit that begat this pitting.

Self-serving? That’s an interesting charge. Exactly what service do you imagine that this PIT thread provides to me? Or shall we just chalk this up to the first (of many) empty rhetorical devices you will use to deflect attention from, ya know, the subject of the OP.

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> Warning: rather long, best grab a drink and a comfy chair.

Better still, grab a bucket of salt and some hip-waders.

> [@](#):
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> When Spiritus came into the referenced thread, I happen to read the following post-modernist pearl of wisdomand being the turd\* that I am, I couldn’t help but reply to the great man himself:  
> [ul][li] **Spiritus Mundi** : _[One] post cannot derail a thread._[/li][li] **RedFury** : _And trolls are a figment of our imagination._[/ul][/li]Imagine that! Me having the audacity of pointing out the fucking obvious! Naturally, said post didn’t sit well with Mr Egghead, and he came back with a post of his own, calling me “dishonest”:

No, I pointed out that your post was **either** a charge that **liberal** was a troll, in which case it should have been made privately to the mods **or** an attempt to draw a parallel that was intellectually dishonest. The sentence structure in question is called ”conditional”. Here’s a clue for you (since you seem woefully short of your own): when the first word of a sentence if **”If”** and a little later on you see the word **”then”** it often indicates that the words after the **”then”** indicate something that is only as true as the thing indicated after the **”If”**.

The really amazing thing, though, is that you go on to post my actual quote. _” If you think that liberal’s posts are trollish, then report them privately to the mods as is appropriate. If you do not, then the parallel you draw is intentionally dishonest.”_ Either a careless reading or a fundamental lack of grammatical education might account for misunderstanding the words initially. It takes a true dedication to ignorance to seek out the words, highlight them, and then post a factually incorrect “response” and imagine that you are being clever.

Apparently your stunted sense of ethics and empathy are only the beginning of your shameful qualities.

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> Well, as some of you might imagine, even turds don’t take well to being called dishonest. In fact, I can’t imagine anything more honest that a turd. At any rate, I again responded to Greatness, albeit with just a tad more vile built into my poo:

Right – unfortunately what **RedFurys** really don’t take well to is reading with comprehension. I do note, though, that you were offended by the conclusions to which your ignorance led you. It is a rather common condition among the ignorant. I also note that you somehow imagine that whatever ire you felt toward me somehow provides **”context”** for your statements to **liberal**. You really should look up that word. Better yet, find someone who can understand the written word and ask them to explain the dictionary entry to you.

Finally, I note that you seem determined to milk an emotional appeal out of the “genius – turd” descriptions. I suppose it is an understandable tactic, since you seem to lack the ability to formulate a compelling argument on the facts. So, I will simply note here that I was not the one to call you a turd and that this is simply another example of your inability to process information accurately and make an appropriate response.

You then go on to post all manner of drivel about the other thread, none of which has any relevance to the OP, but all of which you apparently imagine provides a **”context”** to justify your juvenile cruelty. Since I did not PIT you for any part exchange between the two of us, I wonder why you choose to defend your behavior by focusing upon that aspect of the other thread. Do we have another shameful quality to add to your list? Here’s a clue. Be careful, it’s another one of those “conditional” things, and I know you have a hard time comprehending such complex sentences. **If** I clearly state in the OP that you should be ashamed of a post directed at **liberal** , **then** the **“context”** for that exchange should focus upon your exchanges with **liberal**.

Unless, of course, you imagine that I was dishonest in posting the OP and that I _really_ wanted to PIT you because of some deep personal animosity between us. In which case I say, with complete sincerity, you would have one of the most pathetically misguided senses of personal import that I have come across in some time. (Watch out, it’s another opportunity for your poor reading skills to lead you astray.)

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> Which leads us right back to The Original One, Liberal himself, a poster I can certainly prior knowledge of. Not that said fact should surprise anyone, for it’s rather hard to miss his encyclopedic number of self-promoting droppings. You might get the feeling from the former sentence that I don’t much like the guy, and you’d be right of course. But by the same token, there are many others here that I won’t be breaking bread with anytime soon. Thing is, for as much as Lib is convinced that there’s some secret cabal that’s out to “get him” (whatever the fuck that means) I’m hardly interested in what he has to say. Yeah sure, running into him in as many threads as I do, I often throw a disparaging remark or two his way – AFAIK, this behavior is normally rescinded to The Pit.

Awww. You almost made it. You almost actually managed to address something relevant to the OP. Instead, you simply found another occasion to attack **liberal**. Rather pathetic, really. In character, but pathetic. (hmmmm, I may have committed a redundancy.)

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> And here we are, in this, the latest episode of his never-ending drive for attention. Christ, the fucker makes Bette Midler look like an amateur Drama Queen.

**liberal**  
**Spiritus Mundi**  
A man not blinded by his own preconceptions might be able to look at those two names and discover a startling truth: _They indicate two DIFFERENT posters_. Wow. If only **RedFury** were capable of such insightful detection. Then again, why intrude upon a fantasy world in which my starting a PIT thread about **RedFury** gets transformed into an attention-seeking action by **liberal** :rolleyes:

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> I am being pitted for being “petty, vicious, and utterly devoid of compassion,”

Yes. Now if only you could understand those words as well as you cut & paste them.

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> ironically, the very characteristics that I find define many of Lib’s posts when anyone ‘dare’point out to him that he’s behaving like an asshole. See the referenced thread for example. Pot, motherfuckin’kettle.

_sigh_ Perhaps repetition will do the trick.

**liberal**  
**Spiritus Mundi**  
A man not blinded by his own preconceptions might be able to look at those two names and discover a startling truth: _They indicate two DIFFERENT posters_. Wow. If only **RedFury** were capable of such insightful detection.

Don’t worry. I won’t even try to explain the concept of “irony” to you. Let’s see if you can’t make progress on understanding the **obvious** meanings first.

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> Specifically, the charge has to do with Lib’s startling confession. Namely that he is a gone…which we’ve since come to learn means that a man my age, has a myriad of physical problems.
> 
> :::faints:::
> 
> Hell, with my family legacy of cancer and heart disease and my cholesterol count being what it is (despite medication), I’m rather fortunate to be up this morning.

No. Specifically the charge has to do with your response to a statement that another human being felt a sense of impending mortality. Despite the myriad irrelevant and emotionally charged smokescreens you feel compelled to use to disguise that fact.

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> Far be it for me to wish anyone here ill, but by the same token, I don’t much get attached to bytes on a screen. I only need look at my cancer-riddled mother to get a dose of hard-core suffering in living color – and if that is not enough, living as I do, in a Third World country, a quick ride through the streets, filled with some of the most gruesome images of pain and injustice you can ever imagine, more than fills my quota for suffering.

Thanks for another fine example.  
[ul][li]Emotionally charged[/li][li] poignant[/li][li]calculated to inspire both sympathy for yourself and derision for **liberal** [/li][li]utterly irrelevant to the OP[/ul][/li]Or perhaps I am being too hasty. Are you trying to argue that you have been exposed to so much suffering in your personal life that it grants you license to act cruelly to strangers on a message board? If so, then the quote above is irrelevant. Pathetic. Unconvincing. But relevant.

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> Doesn’t mean I wish Lib any harm, never said so either. Quite the contrary, may he live an extended lifetime (or two in his case), but again, both the circumstances of his announcement and his well-known propensity to climb on the cross every time he is taken to task, more than justifies, in my view, the response given.

Ah – so this is the crux of your defense. Because you were skeptical you chose to metaphorically ::: puke::: on the poster in question. As I said:  
[ul][li]petty[/li][li]vicious[/li][li]utterly devoid of compassion[/ul][/li]I suspect that you knew that all along, though, since you added the postscript

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> Guess I’m going to the hell I don’t believe in.

So how shall we interpret this:  
[ul][li]You are one of those atheists folks love to demonize who finds all behavior acceptable since you believe in no Hell awaits to punish you? [/li][li]This is just your acknowledgment that you personally lack the ethical maturity to curb your behavior without a threat of eternal punishment?[/li][li]Or is it just an example of a cheap attack upon **Lib’s** faith since you were already there to take a cheap shot at his mortality.[/ul][/li]

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> So can we get back to some real vitriol here or what? Don’t think Sensei Spiritus will be happy when and if he returns to this thread. And then we’re all in deep dodoo.

Were you not paying attention in the last thread? (Wait – you have already demonstrated that fact in abundant detail.) Here’s a hint: I was the one arguing that it is possible to simply ignore posts that are irrelevant to a topic of interest.

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> Sidenote to sensei Spiritus:
> 
> Thank you much for breaking my Pit cherry. Never knew being pitted could be so much fun.
> 
> Sort of explains why your bestest pal was addicted to them.

You have been here for over four years, and you have managed to conclude that **liberal** and I are “best pals”? Your powers for inaccurate observation are truly amazing. You might consider doing consulting for the Bush administration the next time they need to discover evidence for WMD’s someplace.

Wait . . . can it be that your ethics are so highly developed that you cannot imagine a circumstance in which one person might defend or compliment another unless they were close friends? Can your personal morality really be so blighted and immature?

Oh . . . right. Never mind.

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**Author:** ![Spiritus\_Mundi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@Spiritus\_Mundi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiritus_Mundi)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2005, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redfury-xploder-shame-on-you/317536/156 "2005-08-21T18:24:37Z")

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**liberal** (if you are still reading)  
Since I do not share your faith, I wish for you a long stretch of years to still dance among the atoms.

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**Author:** ![Spiritus\_Mundi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@Spiritus\_Mundi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiritus_Mundi)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2005, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redfury-xploder-shame-on-you/317536/157 "2005-08-21T18:31:51Z")

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> I did not want the phrase “people like you” to be interpreted as an anti-religious comment; it was meant to reference “people who get all righteously indignant that there would be insults on the internet!!! in the Pit!!!”

Right . . . because the point of my OP was that there should be no insults in the PIT. :eek:

Have you been taken reading lessons from **RedFury**?

Your own point, I recall, was that being petty, vicious, and utterly devoid of compassion is not a fault worthy of shame. Is this a general statement of your ethics? Or do you have special rules for the Internet?

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2005, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redfury-xploder-shame-on-you/317536/158 "2005-08-21T18:44:42Z")

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So **Spiritus** , no comment on the Mods suspending **Liberal** for the same thing **RedFury** & **Xploder** were meanies about?

[Giraffe notes](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=6486518&postcount=71) it on page2. Only ask because I have no idea how many “catch up posts” you plan on doing.

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**Author:** ![Spiritus\_Mundi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@Spiritus\_Mundi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiritus_Mundi)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2005, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redfury-xploder-shame-on-you/317536/159 "2005-08-21T19:07:05Z")

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No. I have no knowledge of why **liberal** was suspended. Since I have been away from the board for a while I do not even know whether “suspended” is now the word for “banned” or if they are 2 different things. **Giraffe’s** post does find **liberal’s** announcement “troubling”. And he calls it “highly inappropriate” to use “real-life misfortune” as “ammunition against one’s opponents in an unrelated Pit thread.” It is not at all obvious to me, though, that **Giraffe’s** post was an announcement that **liberal** was being banned (or suspended, if that is the current usage). I do know that in the past some posters have voluntarily requested that there posting privileges be suspended/revoked and that the administration has complied with such requests. Again, I have no idea if such options are still available or if they apply to this case.

I do disagree with **Giraffe’s** interpretation that **liberal** was using his statement as ammunition in the PIT thread, but matters of interpretation are, of course, subjective.

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**Author:** ![Spiritus\_Mundi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@Spiritus\_Mundi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiritus_Mundi)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2005, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redfury-xploder-shame-on-you/317536/160 "2005-08-21T19:08:17Z")

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Oops – sorry for the coding error. I should know better than to rely on the “quick reply” button.

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