# RedFury, Xploder: shame on you **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 18, 2005, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redfury-xploder-shame-on-you/317536 "2005-08-18T03:31:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Spiritus\_Mundi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@Spiritus\_Mundi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiritus_Mundi)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2005, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redfury-xploder-shame-on-you/317536/161 "2005-08-21T19:24:52Z")
A quick search takes me to [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=330807), which makes it clear that **liberal** was suspended by the admins for one month. So, the status was not voluntary but neither is it a banning. **TubaDiva** is not specific about exactly what led to the decision, but does mention “recent events”. It is certainly reasonable to conlude that the “I’m dying” post was a contributing factor, but it is also possible that the other factors were involved. It is clear, though, that the staff has not concluded that **liberal** is a troll, since the punishment for that would be banning. ---
**Author:** ![Spiritus\_Mundi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@Spiritus\_Mundi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiritus_Mundi)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2005, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redfury-xploder-shame-on-you/317536/162 "2005-08-21T19:27:57Z")
Oh . . . and in case you were expecting me to start a PIT thread about the suspension. I see no need. Whatever impelled the mods to take their action, they managed to express their position without spitting bile in a man’s revealed wound. ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Side\_of\_the\_Floyd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bb73d2/32.png) [@Dark\_Side\_of\_the\_Floyd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dark_Side_of_the_Floyd)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2005, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redfury-xploder-shame-on-you/317536/163 "2005-08-21T20:44:41Z")
Just a question: Why are you so interested in defending **Liberal**? Not meaning to be snarky, just a question. ---
**Author:** ![Spiritus\_Mundi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@Spiritus\_Mundi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiritus_Mundi)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2005, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redfury-xploder-shame-on-you/317536/164 "2005-08-21T21:30:23Z")
Defending him? He hardly needs me to do that (or at least did not when he was able to post). I have criticized 2 posters for their lack of human compassion. This defends **liberal** exactly so much as it defends you or I or any other poster who might next become the target of their spite. If you are referring to the other thread, there I counseled **liberal** to not change his posting style in an attempt to please his vocal detractors. About that posting style, I don’t think my description could be fairly classified as a defense or a condemnation, except insofar as I did not find him to be deliberately hurtful. My exact words were: > [@](#): > > I have in the past found your style of conversation witty, frustrating, infuriating, challenging, intriguing, monothematic (well, “bi” really), delightful, hyper-sensitive, thoughtful, condescending, and even (back when I first discovered this board) bordering upon dishonest (in representing others’ views, not your own). What I have never felt, though, is that your style of engagement was intended to be hurtful or that you ever misrepresented your own beliefs or positions. In that thread, I also counseled those detractors to exercise responsibility for their own board experience and simply not respond to posts that they find objectionably off topic. Those posters, in the midst of their own righteous attempt at instilling “proper” message board behavior in **liberal** , found it horribly self-righteous and presumptive of me to dare recommend that they change their own message board habits. What this indicates is left as an exercise for the reader. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2005, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redfury-xploder-shame-on-you/317536/165 "2005-08-21T22:54:26Z")
What? They can’t suspend him for one month! That’s anywhere between 4% and 8% of his life! That’s just cruel! Special rules for special assholes, I guess. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Spiritus\_Mundi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@Spiritus\_Mundi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiritus_Mundi)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2005, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redfury-xploder-shame-on-you/317536/166 "2005-08-21T22:55:55Z")
Nothing like calling a man names when he cannot answer, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![Xploder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/a183cd/32.png) [@Xploder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xploder)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2005, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redfury-xploder-shame-on-you/317536/167 "2005-08-21T22:57:05Z")
Ya know…if it wasn’t against the rules, I’d acuse you of being a Liberal sock. **NOBODY** but, **NOBODY** , besides Liberal has posts that long that have nothing to do about a fucking thing. If I’m out of line, then please feel free to tell me. If he **isn’t** Liberal, then feel free to ram me in the ass for assuming what should have been obvious to everyone… ---
**Author:** ![Spiritus\_Mundi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@Spiritus\_Mundi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiritus_Mundi)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2005, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redfury-xploder-shame-on-you/317536/168 "2005-08-21T22:58:11Z")
Hey – I found a coll quote: > [@merijeek](#): > > Did you know that it’s possible to give your opinion without > > 1. Insulting anyone who doesn’t agree with you, especially “them” > > 2. Being a dick :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2005, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redfury-xploder-shame-on-you/317536/169 "2005-08-21T23:00:39Z")
> [@Merijeek](#): > > What? > > They can’t suspend him for one month! That’s anywhere between 4% and 8% of his life! That’s just cruel! How are the gods gonna feel if he passes away before his suspension is up? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2005, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redfury-xploder-shame-on-you/317536/170 "2005-08-21T23:02:07Z")
Uh, mods not gods ---
**Author:** ![Spiritus\_Mundi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@Spiritus\_Mundi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiritus_Mundi)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2005, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redfury-xploder-shame-on-you/317536/171 "2005-08-21T23:02:09Z")
> [@Xploder](#): > > Ya know…if it wasn’t against the rules, I’d acuse you of being a Liberal sock. > > **NOBODY** but, **NOBODY** , besides Liberal has posts that long that have nothing to do about a fucking thing. > > If I’m out of line, then please feel free to tell me. If he **isn’t** Liberal, then feel free to ram me in the ass for assuming what should have been obvious to everyone… Wow, what a telling retort. You certainly have demonstrated the quality of you reasoning and the depths of your insight. Don’t worry, though, I wouldn’t dream of ramming anything in your ass. The thought of inflicting further brain damage upon you is simply too tragic to contemplate. ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2005, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redfury-xploder-shame-on-you/317536/172 "2005-08-21T23:17:14Z")
> [@Xploder](#): > > Ya know…if it wasn’t against the rules, I’d acuse you of being a Liberal sock. > > **NOBODY** but, **NOBODY** , besides Liberal has posts that long that have nothing to do about a fucking thing. > > If I’m out of line, then please feel free to tell me. If he **isn’t** Liberal, then feel free to ram me in the ass for assuming what should have been obvious to everyone… Cool it with the sock accusations, **Xploder**. Wrapping something in a hypothetical doesn’t magically alter the implication. ---
**Author:** ![Xploder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/a183cd/32.png) [@Xploder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xploder)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2005, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redfury-xploder-shame-on-you/317536/173 "2005-08-21T23:20:01Z")
> [@Giraffe](#): > > Cool it with the sock accusations, **Xploder**. Wrapping something in a hypothetical doesn’t magically alter the implication. My apologies. it’s just that those kind of responses, i.e., a lot of verbiage with out a lot of content, strike me as him. I should NOT have made a sock accusation. Especially when I’m not really sure how to spell accusation. My apologies. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2005, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redfury-xploder-shame-on-you/317536/174 "2005-08-21T23:24:16Z")
> [@grienspace](#): > > Uh, mods not gods Same diff as far as the board goes. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Xploder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/a183cd/32.png) [@Xploder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xploder)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2005, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redfury-xploder-shame-on-you/317536/175 "2005-08-21T23:25:42Z")
> [@Spiritus Mundi](#): > > Wow, what a telling retort. You certainly have demonstrated the quality of you reasoning and the depths of your insight. > > Don’t worry, though, I wouldn’t dream of ramming anything in your ass. The thought of inflicting further brain damage upon you is simply too tragic to contemplate. My apologies for suggesting that you were a sock. ---
**Author:** ![Spiritus\_Mundi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@Spiritus\_Mundi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiritus_Mundi)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2005, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redfury-xploder-shame-on-you/317536/176 "2005-08-21T23:55:45Z")
Apology accepted. I don’t even like wearing socks. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2005, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redfury-xploder-shame-on-you/317536/177 "2005-08-21T23:58:48Z")
> [@grienspace](#): > > How are the gods gonna feel if he passes away before his suspension is up? Possibly that they enabled him to spend more quality time with his loved ones rather than in pointless and interminable arguments on a anonymous message board. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2005, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redfury-xploder-shame-on-you/317536/178 "2005-08-22T00:01:12Z")
> [@Spiritus Mundi](#): > > Nothing like calling a man names when he cannot answer, I guess. Not quite correct. **Lib** can’t answer immediately, but once his suspension is up he’s free to answer in whatever way he chooses. Suspension does not equal banning. Not unless the one suspended continues upon his/her return to engage in the same conduct that led to the suspension. ---
**Author:** ![Spiritus\_Mundi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@Spiritus\_Mundi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiritus_Mundi)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2005, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redfury-xploder-shame-on-you/317536/179 "2005-08-22T00:08:32Z")
> [@](#): > > Not quite correct. Lib can’t answer immediately, but once his suspension is up he’s free to answer in whatever way he chooses. Since you are in a mood to pick at nits, my sentence was exactly correct. _"Nothing like calling a man names **when** he cannot answer, I guess._" The word “when” indicates a specic period of time in which a post cannot be answered. The meaning you would like to critique would be more appropriately worded, _“Nothing like calling a man who can never answer you names.”_ But thank you so much for showing up and illuminating us all with that little bit of misguided pedanticism. These demonstrations do so much to foster the idea that language can be used with precision and clarity. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2005, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redfury-xploder-shame-on-you/317536/180 "2005-08-22T00:44:04Z")
I can see why you’re such a fan of **Lib’s** posting style. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redfury-xploder-shame-on-you/317536.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redfury-xploder-shame-on-you/317536.md?page=10)