# Redpill, you are a loathsome Neanderthal

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redpill-you-are-a-loathsome-neanderthal/559517>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 4, 2010, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redpill-you-are-a-loathsome-neanderthal/559517 "2010-11-04T22:26:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redpill-you-are-a-loathsome-neanderthal/559517/1 "2010-11-04T22:26:16Z")

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Your opinions are boorish, despicable and incorrect. You are a troglodyte posing as a modern man. Your douchebaggery is palpable. No-one wants to hear you spew your sexist vomit–not women, who are directly offended, nor men, who know that with every word you speak you drag us all down a little bit. People like you, you and your ilk, are why we can’t have reasonable gender relations. Go crawl back in whatever ice block you thawed out of and leave the rest of us alone.

(relevant link: [Women are the fairer sex. Your opinions? - In My Humble Opinion - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=583729))

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**Author:** ![Palooka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/palooka/32/2902_2.png) [@Palooka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Palooka)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redpill-you-are-a-loathsome-neanderthal/559517/2 "2010-11-04T22:54:35Z")

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Maybe you could summarize that 200-post mess for the people who want to get their hate on, but don’t really care all that much.

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redpill-you-are-a-loathsome-neanderthal/559517/3 "2010-11-04T22:57:20Z")

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> [@pedescribe](#):
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> Your opinions are boorish, despicable and incorrect. You are a troglodyte posing as a modern man. Your douchebaggery is palpable. No-one wants to hear you spew your sexist vomit–not women, who are directly offended, nor men, who know that with every word you speak you drag us all down a little bit. People like you, you and your ilk, are why we can’t have reasonable gender relations. Go crawl back in whatever ice block you thawed out of and leave the rest of us alone.
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> (relevant link: [Women are the fairer sex. Your opinions? - In My Humble Opinion - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=583729))

Pedescribe, if you look at the top right corner of a post window, you will see the post number. If you right-click that you can copy the post URL. This will allow you to link to a specific post.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redpill-you-are-a-loathsome-neanderthal/559517/4 "2010-11-04T23:09:39Z")

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> [@Women are the fairer sex. Your opinions?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/women-are-the-fairer-sex-your-opinions/558938/81):
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> Now you are mixing up two things: Playing sports and going out alone at night.
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> Going out alone _is_ more risky for women. Do you not think so?
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> Not all women are at equal risk of being raped, thus one could consider the warning a compliment instead of being offended.

I took a look at the thread.

He gets more charming from there.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redpill-you-are-a-loathsome-neanderthal/559517/5 "2010-11-04T23:15:50Z")

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Two quotes in particular that stood out over there:

> [@Redpill](#):
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> I would argue those who ignore common sense in favor of “documented research” are the idiots.

Which highlights the stupid pretty well, and:

> [@Redpill](#):
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> Looking back I can see why some women can be offended by my remark that: Hot women in a dangerous situation are more at risk for rape.
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> Because it can be taken to indirectly mean: If no one has attempted rape on you, you must not be hot enough.

Which nails the “loathsome” part.

I think we’ve got a real winner on our hands. He should go far.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redpill-you-are-a-loathsome-neanderthal/559517/6 "2010-11-04T23:23:53Z")

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Why, oh why didn’t you pit the blue pill?

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redpill-you-are-a-loathsome-neanderthal/559517/7 "2010-11-04T23:41:08Z")

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My god, this board is easy to troll.

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**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redpill-you-are-a-loathsome-neanderthal/559517/8 "2010-11-04T23:57:29Z")

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Yeah, seriously. I don’t know how much more clearly a poster can signal his intent to troll the bejesus out of a thread.

There’s probably no single perspective on any single topic more likely to draw me into an outraged debate than the one **Redpill** is attempting to defend. I’ve certainly gone back and forth with **Der Trihs** about the exact same topic in the past. But even I can’t muster up enough energy to get involved in that discussion with **Redpill**. Pitting him for being incorrect seems rather unlikely to have the desired effect.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2010, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redpill-you-are-a-loathsome-neanderthal/559517/9 "2010-11-05T00:45:51Z")

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> [@Larry\_Borgia](#):
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> My god, this board is easy to troll.

And all this time I thought you were serious.

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**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2010, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redpill-you-are-a-loathsome-neanderthal/559517/10 "2010-11-05T00:53:58Z")

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If **Redpill** is a troll, I vote shift the focus to **Der Trihs** , who has made some equally loathsome comments in that thread, and who is probably _not_ a troll, given his long history at the SDMB.

OTOH, pitting **Der Trihs** is so passe.

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**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2010, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redpill-you-are-a-loathsome-neanderthal/559517/11 "2010-11-05T01:10:49Z")

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**Der Trihs’s** comments aren’t loathsome as much as they insane. He spouts so much froth that it does sort of make me think he’s pulling our leg in there.

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2010, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redpill-you-are-a-loathsome-neanderthal/559517/12 "2010-11-05T01:16:51Z")

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I’m too frail to return to that hot mess of a thread.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2010, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redpill-you-are-a-loathsome-neanderthal/559517/13 "2010-11-05T01:24:04Z")

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> [@Kyla](#):
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> If **Redpill** is a troll, I vote shift the focus to **Der Trihs** , who has made some equally loathsome comments in that thread, and who is probably _not_ a troll, given his long history at the SDMB.

Really. I say that rape is not automatically part of some vast male anti-woman conspiracy, that sometimes it is just a ruthless man taking what he wants by force. That is somehow just as bad as claiming being targeted for rape is a compliment? It’s no wonder that having an honest discussion on the topic is difficult.

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2010, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redpill-you-are-a-loathsome-neanderthal/559517/14 "2010-11-05T01:29:42Z")

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> [@you\_with\_the\_face](#):
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> **Der Trihs’s** comments aren’t loathsome as much as they insane. He spouts so much froth that it does sort of make me think he’s pulling our leg in there.

He spouts so much froth someone should use him as a milkshake machine.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2010, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redpill-you-are-a-loathsome-neanderthal/559517/15 "2010-11-05T01:33:07Z")

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Wow…just…wow.

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**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2010, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redpill-you-are-a-loathsome-neanderthal/559517/16 "2010-11-05T01:47:50Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> Really. I say that rape is not automatically part of some vast male anti-woman conspiracy, that sometimes it is just a ruthless man taking what he wants by force.

If someone, somewhere, was actually making that argument, you might have a point. Instead you just look like a crazy person, stomping your feet and yelling in vain at a straw man.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2010, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redpill-you-are-a-loathsome-neanderthal/559517/17 "2010-11-05T02:35:17Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> Really. I say that rape is not automatically part of some vast male anti-woman conspiracy, that sometimes it is just a ruthless man taking what he wants by force. That is somehow just as bad as claiming being targeted for rape is a compliment? It’s no wonder that having an honest discussion on the topic is difficult.

I have to say, I was genuinely surprised to see you take that position. Given your general insistence on imputing the views of the extreme to the whole of the group, “vast male anti-woman conspiracy” would seem to be right up your alley, ideologically speaking.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2010, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redpill-you-are-a-loathsome-neanderthal/559517/18 "2010-11-05T02:39:42Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> I have to say, I was genuinely surprised to see you take that position. Given your general insistence on imputing the views of the extreme to the whole of the group, “vast male anti-woman conspiracy” would seem to be right up your alley, ideologically speaking.

Nah, he only does that with regards to a handful of organizations, but those triggers of his come up often here.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2010, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redpill-you-are-a-loathsome-neanderthal/559517/19 "2010-11-05T02:53:04Z")

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> [@Kyla](#):
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> If someone, somewhere, was actually making that argument, you might have a point. Instead you just look like a crazy person, stomping your feet and yelling in vain at a straw man.

My point - which is hardly “crazy” or even original to myself - is that “rape is about power” IS a claim of just such a gender-wide agenda/plot/whatever. It denies that men exhibit normal (if in this case criminal) human behavior and insists that no, rape _isn’t_ an example of predatory self indulgence - it has to be part of an _agenda_.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2010, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redpill-you-are-a-loathsome-neanderthal/559517/20 "2010-11-05T02:57:36Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> My point - which is hardly “crazy” or even original to myself - is that “rape is about power” IS a claim of just such a gender-wide agenda/plot/whatever. It denies that men exhibit normal (if in this case criminal) human behavior and insists that no, rape _isn’t_ an example of predatory self indulgence - it has to be part of an _agenda_.

Second-hand crazy is still crazy.

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