# Redundancy is driving me crazy and insane

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redundancy-is-driving-me-crazy-and-insane/552382>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 2, 2010, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redundancy-is-driving-me-crazy-and-insane/552382 "2010-09-02T13:53:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2010, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redundancy-is-driving-me-crazy-and-insane/552382/21 "2010-09-02T19:49:48Z")

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You can wait, but you’ll miss today’s soup du jour.

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**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2010, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redundancy-is-driving-me-crazy-and-insane/552382/22 "2010-09-02T19:52:44Z")

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> [@It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery](#):
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> Can I wait to have all this food? There’s a recall on my car’s ABS system. I know because I saw it on CNN News.

I missed that. I was watching MLB Baseball.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2010, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redundancy-is-driving-me-crazy-and-insane/552382/23 "2010-09-02T19:54:23Z")

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Didn’t CNN News also have a story about the Sierra Desert? I couldn’t quite get it, I was having a migraine headache from eating tuna fish.

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**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2010, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redundancy-is-driving-me-crazy-and-insane/552382/24 "2010-09-02T20:36:10Z")

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{standard blues style} OOOhhhhhhhhh

Some say the blues are redundant , but I don’t think that’s true.  
Oh, some the blues are redundant, but I -e-I don’t think that’s true.  
Some say the blues repeat themselves and say the same thing over and over again,  
Wooaaahhh I don’t care if they do.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2010, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redundancy-is-driving-me-crazy-and-insane/552382/25 "2010-09-02T20:39:09Z")

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People are most likely to talk about this topic on the SDMB message board.

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**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2010, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redundancy-is-driving-me-crazy-and-insane/552382/26 "2010-09-02T20:46:48Z")

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> [@Prelude\_to\_Fascination](#):
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> Either use the dollar symbol, or the word dollar, but not both when talking about the same amount.
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> I’m done now.

You don’t know the 1/2 half of it.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2010, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redundancy-is-driving-me-crazy-and-insane/552382/27 "2010-09-02T21:10:15Z")

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> [@Prelude\_to\_Fascination](#):
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> Here’s what I mean: “I paid $100 dollars for a pair of shoes.” So you paid one hundred dollars dollars?

As a lawyer, I might even write that into the sales contract as “$100 (one hundred) dollars.”

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2010, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redundancy-is-driving-me-crazy-and-insane/552382/28 "2010-09-02T21:41:03Z")

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> [@descamisado](#):
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> You don’t know the 1/2 half of it.

Just my .2 cents, but that’s the honest truth.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2010, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redundancy-is-driving-me-crazy-and-insane/552382/29 "2010-09-02T21:48:31Z")

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> [@](#):
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> You don’t know the 1/2 half of it.

Then you should bisect it into two halves for us. That way we can form a consensus of opinion on what we believe.

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**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2010, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redundancy-is-driving-me-crazy-and-insane/552382/30 "2010-09-02T22:02:30Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> People are most likely to talk about this topic on the SDMB message board.

I can do that while sitting in the SEB Building. I’ll let you guess what the S&E stand for, just to maintain my enigmatic allure.

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**Author:** ![banjoDavid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3d9bf3/32.png) [@banjoDavid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/banjoDavid)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2010, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redundancy-is-driving-me-crazy-and-insane/552382/31 "2010-09-02T22:06:15Z")

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> [@Eutychus](#):
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> > [@usar\_jag](#):
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> > The thread has been brought to you by the U.S. Department of Redundancy Department.
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> … and the Natural Guard.

Porgie Tirebiter thanks you for this.

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Nader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Darth\_Nader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Nader)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2010, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redundancy-is-driving-me-crazy-and-insane/552382/32 "2010-09-02T23:02:09Z")

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> [@Tom\_Tildrum](#):
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> As a lawyer, I might even write that into the sales contract as “$100 (one hundred) dollars.”

Q: How many lawyers would it take to wallpaper an average-sized living room?  
A: Depends how thin you slice 'em.

I hope the MET team finds you in time… 😉

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2010, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redundancy-is-driving-me-crazy-and-insane/552382/33 "2010-09-02T23:05:03Z")

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> [@Tom\_Tildrum](#):
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> > [@Prelude\_to\_Fascination](#):
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> > Here’s what I mean: “I paid $100 dollars for a pair of shoes.” So you paid one hundred dollars dollars?
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> As a lawyer, I might even write that into the sales contract as “$100 (one hundred) dollars.”

Better make sure there’s no chance of confusion. Make it “ (dollars) 100 (one [1] hundred [100]) dollars ().”

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Nader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Darth\_Nader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Nader)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2010, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redundancy-is-driving-me-crazy-and-insane/552382/34 "2010-09-02T23:23:46Z")

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[Glares at **Little Nemo**]

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2010, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redundancy-is-driving-me-crazy-and-insane/552382/35 "2010-09-02T23:48:29Z")

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And THAT’S why you never ask a lawyer for an itemized bill.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2010, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redundancy-is-driving-me-crazy-and-insane/552382/36 "2010-09-02T23:51:30Z")

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I am with the OP 100% percent.

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**Author:** ![mbetter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/53a042/32.png) [@mbetter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbetter)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redundancy-is-driving-me-crazy-and-insane/552382/37 "2010-09-03T04:45:44Z")

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> [@cosmosdan](#):
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> {standard blues style} OOOhhhhhhhhh
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> Some say the blues are redundant , but I don’t think that’s true.  
> Oh, some the blues are redundant, but I -e-I don’t think that’s true.  
> Some say the blues repeat themselves and say the same thing over and over again,  
> Wooaaahhh I don’t care if they do.

That’s gold, Jerry! Gold! … Jerry!

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Nader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Darth\_Nader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Nader)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redundancy-is-driving-me-crazy-and-insane/552382/38 "2010-09-03T06:24:25Z")

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[We did this already…](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=576797)

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redundancy-is-driving-me-crazy-and-insane/552382/39 "2010-09-03T07:25:38Z")

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At least “PIN number” is used to eliminate ambiguity with the normal word pin, and even ATM machine can be to distinguish between other expansions of ATM, like asyncronious transfer mode. And using au jus sauce can help make a foreign word have at least a small part of an English word for those who are unfamiliar with it. I can’t see the purpose of doing what essentially the same as saying that I weigh 200 lbs pounds.

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**Author:** ![JpnDude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/838e76/32.png) [@JpnDude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JpnDude)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 7:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/redundancy-is-driving-me-crazy-and-insane/552382/40 "2010-09-03T07:37:34Z")

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How about taking a boat ride in the river just south of Tokyo?

I’ve heard many people refer to it in English as the “Tama-gawa River.”

Uhmmmm, “gawa/kawa” already means “river”.

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