# Reeder has been banned

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeder-has-been-banned/314906>\
**Category:** About This Message Board\
**Created:** [July 30, 2005, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeder-has-been-banned/314906 "2005-07-30T17:33:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2005, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeder-has-been-banned/314906/61 "2005-08-01T16:21:43Z")

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If I get a speeding ticket, I pay my fine and forget about it.

If I get 10 tickets, I may lose my license.

Least controversial banning ever. And I liked Reeder.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2005, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeder-has-been-banned/314906/62 "2005-08-01T16:36:00Z")

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> [@Larry Borgia](#):
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> Least controversial banning ever.

Oh, i think that’s probably true. The fact that i’m almost the Lone Ranger in opposing his ban is quite clear. That’s how it goes. Maybe it’s some personal defect of mine, but i’ve opposed most bannings of long-term members around here— **Collounsbury** ; **december** ; hell, i even thought **milroyj** ’s banning was poorly justified by the mods. With all their idiocies and exasperating tendencies, these people still made this place a little more interesting. I guess i feel the same about **Reeder**. Obviously i’m in a tiny minority, which would mean that even if this Board were a democracy (which it’s not), i still wouldn’t get my way.

I just find it amusing, as i suggested above, that some of the people celebrating loudest and most self-righteously are people who were, for want of a better term, **Reeder** -enablers. They couldn’t just let his drive-by threads go; they had to weigh in on even the most trivial issues, often with posts and content-free and as simplistic as **Reeder** ’s.

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**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2005, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeder-has-been-banned/314906/63 "2005-08-01T16:51:52Z")

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> [@Liberal](#):
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> It is unseemly to bash someone who cannot respond.

Kind of ironic considering what Reeder loved to do…

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2005, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeder-has-been-banned/314906/64 "2005-08-01T17:26:07Z")

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> [@kidchameleon](#):
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> Kind of ironic considering what Reeder loved to do…

Bush can respond if he cares to join. Reeder cannot join. Not same same.

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**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2005, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeder-has-been-banned/314906/65 "2005-08-01T17:48:21Z")

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Somewhere out in the world, a little baby hamster has been spared enslavement in the sweatshop known as the SDMB. Let us not forget the hamsters.

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**Author:** ![rfgdxm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c0e974/32.png) [@rfgdxm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rfgdxm)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2005, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeder-has-been-banned/314906/66 "2005-08-01T17:54:40Z")

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IMO, Reeder was wrongly banned. In particular, the thread that he started that got him banned was a completely reasonable thread for the BBQ Pit.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2005, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeder-has-been-banned/314906/67 "2005-08-01T18:07:32Z")

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> [@rfgdxm](#):
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> IMO, Reeder was wrongly banned. In particular, the thread that he started that got him banned was a completely reasonable thread for the BBQ Pit.

[It was also the sort of thread that he was expressly prohibited from starting](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=5088561#post5088561).

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2005, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeder-has-been-banned/314906/68 "2005-08-01T18:10:50Z")

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> [@Lute Skywatcher](#):
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> [It was also the sort of thread that he was expressly prohibited from starting](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=5088561#post5088561).

Well, i think that **Coldfire** is generally a great mod, but i think that the conditions set out in that warning were stupid and unfair. Also, one could very easily make the argument that a thread about the President raising his middle finger to a group of journalists actually _is_ about politics. After all, the issue of presidential behaviour and decorum, and his relationship with the media, is an inextricable part of the political position.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2005, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeder-has-been-banned/314906/69 "2005-08-01T18:18:26Z")

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Oh, go sit in the corner with **rfgdxm**. 😃

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2005, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeder-has-been-banned/314906/70 "2005-08-01T18:25:25Z")

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> [@Lute Skywatcher](#):
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> Oh, go sit in the corner with **rfgdxm**. 😃

[In honor of **Reeder** , i will comply](http://images.allposters.com/images/EPH/8308.jpg).

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**Author:** ![rfgdxm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c0e974/32.png) [@rfgdxm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rfgdxm)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2005, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeder-has-been-banned/314906/71 "2005-08-01T18:33:08Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> Well, i think that **Coldfire** is generally a great mod, but i think that the conditions set out in that warning were stupid and unfair. Also, one could very easily make the argument that a thread about the President raising his middle finger to a group of journalists actually _is_ about politics. After all, the issue of presidential behaviour and decorum, and his relationship with the media, is an inextricable part of the political position.

I agree. This clearly is political. And, if **I** had started the same thread in the pit, I doubt anyone would have seen my post as inappropriate. Basically, Reeder got squished for doing nothing wrong. Now, had he started that thread in GD, given his past warnings he should have been banned.

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**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2005, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeder-has-been-banned/314906/72 "2005-08-01T19:42:26Z")

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::: sigh :::

It’s obvious that we are going to agree to disagree here.

Duly noted that you do not approve.

Let’s move on.

your humble TubaDiva

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2005, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeder-has-been-banned/314906/73 "2005-08-01T20:11:30Z")

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> [@TubaDiva](#):
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> ::: sigh :::
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> It’s obvious that we are going to agree to disagree here.
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> Duly noted that you do not approve.
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> Let’s move on.
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> your humble TubaDiva

By all means. After all, if we’re not agreeing with you, then the conversation musn’t be worth having, right?

Consider the subject closed.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2005, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeder-has-been-banned/314906/74 "2005-08-01T21:45:59Z")

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> [@Liberal](#):
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> Bush can respond if he cares to join. Reeder cannot join. Not same same.

If Dubya wants to join, I’ll pay his membership fee.

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2005, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeder-has-been-banned/314906/75 "2005-08-01T22:04:13Z")

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> [@TubaDiva](#):
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> Let’s move on.

Seeing as it’s **reeder** , we oughta [moveon.org](http://moveon.org)😉

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2005, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeder-has-been-banned/314906/76 "2005-08-01T22:07:15Z")

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> [@Squink](#):
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> Seeing as it’s **reeder** , we oughta [moveon.org](http://moveon.org)😉

Swiftly? 😃

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**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2005, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeder-has-been-banned/314906/77 "2005-08-01T22:41:38Z")

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> [@Liberal](#):
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> Bush can respond if he cares to join. Reeder cannot join. Not same same.

While it’s unrealistic for Bush to have the time/inclination/motivation to post here, is it any less unrealistic that Reeder could e-mail his views to another member who would post Reeder’s sentiments on his behalf?

I think not.

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2005, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeder-has-been-banned/314906/78 "2005-08-01T22:53:50Z")

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> [@kidchameleon](#):
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> is it any less unrealistic that Reeder could e-mail his views to another member who would post Reeder’s sentiments on his behalf?

The few times I’ve seen that, it’s gotten frowned upon pretty strongly.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2005, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeder-has-been-banned/314906/79 "2005-08-01T23:15:39Z")

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> [@Mr. Blue Sky](#):
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> If Dubya wants to join, I’ll pay his membership fee.

I refuse to sign the form promising not to criticize him in his presence.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2005, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeder-has-been-banned/314906/80 "2005-08-01T23:41:16Z")

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> [@Cervaise](#):
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> I refuse to sign the form promising not to criticize him in his presence.

As long as you keep it in the Pit, knock yourself out.  
Note: I claim no political affiliation.

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