# Reeder, please stop embarassing us **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 22, 2003, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeder-please-stop-embarassing-us/196851 "2003-08-22T03:28:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2003, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeder-please-stop-embarassing-us/196851/21 "2003-08-22T07:24:22Z")
I have yet to see a **Reeder** thread in Great Debates where I didn’t want to respond with “Will you stop peddling this shit already, you putz?” Unfortunately, the rules for GD don’t allow for such flowery language, so I end up lurking for the most part and addressing the occasional interesting point or two. Even so… how about we ban both **december** and **Reeder,** in a two-for-one bipartisan deal to improve the signal-to-noise ratio on the board? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2003, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeder-please-stop-embarassing-us/196851/22 "2003-08-22T07:54:09Z")
If we can manage to trap them in the same thread… ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2003, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeder-please-stop-embarassing-us/196851/23 "2003-08-22T07:54:55Z")
I think a certain amount of noise _improves_ the signal. It doesn’t really work to extend the metaphor that way, so let’s switch: When someone poops on the linoleum, you can be sure that in short order it’ll be a _lot_ cleaner than it was before. ---
**Author:** ![minty\_green](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@minty\_green](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minty_green)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2003, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeder-please-stop-embarassing-us/196851/24 "2003-08-22T12:19:28Z")
If someone poops on the linoleum, _don’t let them back in the house_. ---
**Author:** ![Beagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@Beagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beagle)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2003, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeder-please-stop-embarassing-us/196851/25 "2003-08-22T12:47:06Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by minty green \* > \*\*If someone poops on the linoleum, _don’t let them back in the house_. \*\* I’d have a pack of feral animals living in the back yard. Oh, some_one_. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2003, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeder-please-stop-embarassing-us/196851/26 "2003-08-22T12:51:31Z")
Every yin has its yang. We have **december** , who posts useless right wing OPs, and we have **Reeder** , who posts useless left wing OPs. There is Rush Limbaugh, a right wing blowhard who lies and blusters, and then there is Michael Moore, a left wing blowhard who lies and blusters. You have G. Gordon Liddy, a bald nutjob who rants from the right, and then you have James Carville, a bald nutjob who rants from the left. We had Jack Dean Tyler, a total fucking psycho who was into FOREskins, and then we had Seethruart, a total fucking psycho who was into BACK issues of Conspiracy Weekly. If we were to get rid of Reeder, why, the board would be unbalanced. The very fabric of space and time would be torn asunder. The offices of the Chicago Reader would implode into a black hole, and the resulting gravity well would throw off the Earth’s center of gravity, disrupt its rotation and its orbit and hurl it into the Sun, annihilating the human race. That is Reeder’s place; his banning would destroy us all. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2003, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeder-please-stop-embarassing-us/196851/27 "2003-08-22T12:59:47Z")
So, RickJay, you’re saying that december and Reeder are maintaining the peace through MAD – mutual assured destruction? Or that they are mad? I’d say they’re both 1920s style death rays. ---
**Author:** ![elf6c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c57346/32.png) [@elf6c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elf6c)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2003, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeder-please-stop-embarassing-us/196851/28 "2003-08-22T13:17:36Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by appletreats \* > \*\*I’ve been registered for almost a year now, but I didn’t notice **Reeder** causing much fuss until fairly recently. Has he (it is a he, right?) been putting out Fark-grade political commentary for two and a half years without drawing my attention, or is this a somewhat recent development? \*\* Woah now- lets not besmirch Fark like that. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2003, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeder-please-stop-embarassing-us/196851/29 "2003-08-22T13:55:24Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by John Mace \* > \*\ ***Reeder:** Didn’t you ask AD USAF and me recenlty how many of your GD threads had been closed? I guess you can start counting with this one. But you’re doing a great job of making the Left leaning posters on this board embarassed. Keep up the good work! \*\* Actually, **Reeder** doesn’t embarrass me at all. I feel no need to be embrrassed over things done by someone over whom i have absolutely no control. While i share many of **Reeder** ’s political viewpoints, i think the way that he gets those viewpoints across on this board are often unproductive and simplistic. But the idea that all leftists/liberals etc. should feel somehow diminished by a single unreflective poster is asinine. In the same spirit, i see no reason for conservatives to be embarrassed by **december** ’s dribbling idiocy, except when they apparently feel the need to start defending the idiocy, as **milroyj** and a few other morons do in [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=206207). **Guin** , you do yourself and other liberals/leftists no service by starting a thread like this and effectively conceding to **Reeder** the right to determine how liberals/leftists are perceived on this message board. ---
**Author:** ![Telcontar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Telcontar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telcontar)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2003, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeder-please-stop-embarassing-us/196851/30 "2003-08-22T17:19:17Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by EddyTeddyFreddy \* > \*\*So, RickJay, you’re saying that december and Reeder are maintaining the peace through MAD – mutual assured destruction? Or that they are mad? I’d say they’re both 1920s style death rays. \*\* For this to be MAD, there would need to be an arraingement through which Reeder agreed not to post so long as December didn’t and December agreed not to post so long as Reeder didn’t. To continue the analogy, the current situation isn’t one of deterence but rather nuclear winter (as both are posting.) IMO, both post a lot of inteligent stuff, and a lot of BS. Granted that is also my opinion of damn near everyone else (with special emphasis on the BS in my own case.) Rickjay James Carville, despite his flaws, ain’t half as bad as Liddy. Did you see that joker’s new book? it’s right up there with The South was Right in terms of needing a fact checker ---
**Author:** ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2003, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeder-please-stop-embarassing-us/196851/31 "2003-08-22T19:19:20Z")
He reminds me more of **The Republican** than of **december**. But yeah. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2003, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeder-please-stop-embarassing-us/196851/32 "2003-08-22T19:28:48Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Guinastasia \* > **[OMG…georgewbush.com](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=206315)** I do not take any GD thread seriously which begins with **OMG**. I hope nobody else does either. ---
**Author:** ![cheddarsnax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@cheddarsnax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cheddarsnax)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2003, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeder-please-stop-embarassing-us/196851/33 "2003-08-22T19:38:35Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by elf6c \* > \*\*Woah now- lets not besmirch Fark like that. \*\* I humbly apologize for sullying the good name of Drew Curtis’ [FARK.com](http://FARK.com) ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2003, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeder-please-stop-embarassing-us/196851/34 "2003-08-22T22:23:49Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by RickJay \* > \*\*If we were to get rid of Reeder, why, the board would be unbalanced. The very fabric of space and time would be torn asunder. The offices of the Chicago Reader would implode into a black hole, and the resulting gravity well would throw off the Earth’s center of gravity, disrupt its rotation and its orbit and hurl it into the Sun, annihilating the human race. That is Reeder’s place; his banning would destroy us all. \*\* I’m game, let’s ban him and see what happens. ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2003, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeder-please-stop-embarassing-us/196851/35 "2003-08-22T23:20:02Z")
Geez…I feel honored. If I were as erudite as many of my esteemed brothers and sisters on this board my posts would be longer. But alas I’m not. If I could type with more than two fingers my posts would be longer. But alas, I can’t. My reason for posting is just to get the message out to people who care and I feel that GD is the best place for that. I do hope you have noticed that most of my post have really turned into debates. But I do have to admit my last one, the [GWB.com](http://GWB.com), was a bit weak. I promise to try harder. As for it just being recently that I have found my voice…it’s just been recently that my president has decided that our brave troops are cannon fodder for his warmongering. Wishing everyone of you the best… Randy PS…comparing me to **december** …I do not lie in my posts. ---
**Author:** ![minty\_green](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@minty\_green](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minty_green)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2003, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeder-please-stop-embarassing-us/196851/36 "2003-08-23T00:47:58Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Reeder \* > My reason for posting is just to get the message out to people who care and I feel that GD is the best place for that. GD is emphatically **NOT** a forum for “getting a message out.” It is a forum for “long-running discussions of the great questions of our time.” Your pointless drivel serves that end in no way whatsoever. > [@](#): > > I do hope you have noticed that most of my post have really turned into debates. If you shit on the linoleum, people are going to talk about it. Go shit somewhere else. ---
**Author:** ![Ennui](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ennui/32/3396_2.png) [@Ennui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ennui)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2003, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeder-please-stop-embarassing-us/196851/37 "2003-08-23T00:52:22Z")
If you open a Reeder / December GD thread you basically know what to expect, if you don’t enjoy arguments too slanted to stand on their own you likely wont appreciate the thread. As a devout agnostic I find their respective viewpoints interesting, to the extent that I don’t find them tedious, as an experiment in sorta “neuroanthropology.” What motivates otherwise intelligent people of good nature to perceive the polychrome of experience in such garish black and white. And perhaps more importantly how do such perspectives (or lack there of) make us vulnerable to those with much greater appetites for power and self aggrandizement than do I. That being said, just the other day I posted a GQ thread asking for help restoring bookmarks and saved e-mails trashed in an AOL meltdown. Not only did Reeder help me but he did so with incredibly speed. My brother and sister in law are flying to China next month to adopt a baby girl and restoring the lost data saved them a great deal of anxiety in maintaining that process. This is a good opportunity for me to again thank **Reeder** for his help, I’m glad you were there Reeder. ---
**Author:** ![Neurotik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@Neurotik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neurotik)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2003, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeder-please-stop-embarassing-us/196851/38 "2003-08-23T01:19:49Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by minty green \* > \*\*GD is emphatically **NOT** a forum for “getting a message out.” It is a forum for “long-running discussions of the great questions of our time.” Your pointless drivel serves that end in no way whatsoever. \*\* Maybe it’s a sort of witnessing… ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2003, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeder-please-stop-embarassing-us/196851/39 "2003-08-23T01:26:07Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Neurotik \* > \*\*Maybe it’s a sort of witnessing… \*\* Amen brother! BTW…Bushistas…steel toed shoes. Just a suggestion. You are very welcome. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2003, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeder-please-stop-embarassing-us/196851/40 "2003-08-23T02:08:47Z")
Get off the fucking cross, kiddo. You’re not helping your religion any. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeder-please-stop-embarassing-us/196851.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeder-please-stop-embarassing-us/196851.md?page=3)