# Reeder: the liberal december

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeder-the-liberal-december/183903>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 24, 2003, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeder-the-liberal-december/183903 "2003-06-24T00:55:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2003, 10:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeder-the-liberal-december/183903/41 "2003-06-24T10:25:27Z")

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Well, Republicans have been obsessed with Clinton’s pants for far longer 😉

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**Author:** ![minty\_green](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@minty\_green](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minty_green)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2003, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeder-the-liberal-december/183903/42 "2003-06-24T12:14:23Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Airman Doors, USAF \*  
> Come 2004 I’ll be voting Democrat for President, against all of my instincts.

:eek:

Of course, this just feeds my growing sense that Bush is toast come November of next year.

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2003, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeder-the-liberal-december/183903/43 "2003-06-24T12:17:48Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Optihut \*  
> \*\*If I understand **Brutus** , he wants you to write 3 lines instead of one and have the link as an additional cite instead of a headline and then it’s ok in his book, because it is a “great debate” in that case 🙂 \*\*

**Brutus** needs help to see the debate. His thought process is that “If Bush said it must true and right and indisputable, and glowing with God’s holy goodness. There can be no debate.”. To the rest of us, we see that even a single sentence quote in GD from a politiician is debatable, since we are not blinded by idealogy.

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**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2003, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeder-the-liberal-december/183903/44 "2003-06-24T12:20:53Z")

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Maybe instead of posting new threads on a daily basis that aren’t much more than links to other stories, he could do so on a less-frequent basis.

Maybe he could become a Weekly Reeder!

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2003, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeder-the-liberal-december/183903/45 "2003-06-24T12:23:07Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Zoe \*  
> \*\*…then maybe he can be compared with decemember. \*\*

Decemember.

Now, let’s see, is that 1/10 of a member, ten members? 😃

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**Author:** ![Desmostylus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@Desmostylus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desmostylus)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2003, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeder-the-liberal-december/183903/46 "2003-06-24T12:43:40Z")

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Could have meant _deci_member.

Could have meant _deca_member. 10 members. As in “couldn’t possibly have gotten that silly just playing with _one_”.

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2003, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeder-the-liberal-december/183903/47 "2003-06-24T13:38:57Z")

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Oh, come on. Weaseling is what seperates man from the lower animals. Except for the weasels, of course.

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**Author:** ![elf6c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c57346/32.png) [@elf6c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elf6c)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2003, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeder-the-liberal-december/183903/48 "2003-06-24T13:44:12Z")

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> The only difference between the two right now is that Bush isn’t popular right now. december gets piled on simply for posting. Reeder doesn’t because he posts anti-Bush stuff.

Wow, a record for wrong statements in a row.

1. Bush may be a lot of things, but his approval ratings within the U.S. are still pretty good. Maybe you meant outside of the U.S.?

2. **december** gets piled on for what he posts and how he cites at times. There is no “vast liberal conspiracy” in the media or on this board against [d]december\*\*. See the nice OP **december** did on Reilly for example.

3. Reeder doesn’t get Pitted because he posts anti-Bush stuff. Oh the vast liberal conspiracy at work again. Well, he is now- lots. Plus every WMD thread has and plenty of administration apologists in there slinging mud. Guess they missed the memo on free passes for Bush-bashers. Some of them are here now- maybe you could let them know the rules.

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**Author:** ![elf6c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c57346/32.png) [@elf6c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elf6c)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2003, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeder-the-liberal-december/183903/49 "2003-06-24T13:52:35Z")

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> \*Originally posted by E-Sabbath \*  
> \*\*Oh, come on. Weaseling is what seperates man from the lower animals. Except for the weasels, of course. \*\*

😃

Is there any situation in which a Simpsons quote is not appropriate?

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**Author:** ![Mtgman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5a626/32.png) [@Mtgman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mtgman)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2003, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeder-the-liberal-december/183903/50 "2003-06-24T15:47:48Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Airman Doors, USAF \*  
> \*\*…you assume too much. The Comp-time thread is proof. You assumed that people would be outraged at the idea. You were wrong, and now you have egg on your face, trying to salvage something out of nothing. \*\*

Actually, the comp-time thread is getting interesting. On the surface the bill seems very innocous and fairly implemented(I found a house comittee summary and cited it). Assertions have come up that employers who choose to offer comp time are now using taict pressure to ensure the employees take the comp time instead of the extra cash from overtime. The threat of being terminated seems to be the major pressure method. It is getting interesting, but yea, **Reeder’s** presentation of the issue(and the article he cited) seemed more partisan than balanced.

Still think he’s got a LONG way to go before he even bats in the minors compared to **december**.

Enjoy,  
Steven

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2003, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeder-the-liberal-december/183903/51 "2003-06-24T17:01:01Z")

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> \*Originally posted by elf6c \*  
> \*\*Is there any situation in which a Simpsons quote is not appropriate? \*\*

No. And there never will be.

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**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2003, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeder-the-liberal-december/183903/52 "2003-06-24T17:28:16Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Reeder \*  
> \*\*Actually I wasn’t referring to you. It was aimed at Brutus. And I have never repeated anything. Have you seen any of what I posted on the mainstream media? No you haven’t. Because they are in Bush’s pocket. Someone needs to document all the lies and deceits. If it’s me…ok. If it’s you or others…all the better. \*\*

What are you, “The voice of one crying in the wilderness”? ( Since you like quotes so much, there’s one for you, John.)

Here’s a tip: “documenting all the lies and deceits” works better if you actually do it, rather than simple posting a link to someone else documenting all the “lies and deceits”.

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2003, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeder-the-liberal-december/183903/53 "2003-06-24T17:52:51Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Revtim \*  
> \*\*No. And there never will be. \*\*

What, never?

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2003, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeder-the-liberal-december/183903/54 "2003-06-24T17:54:25Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Weirddave \*  
> \*\*Here’s a tip: “documenting all the lies and deceits” works better if you actually do it, rather than simple posting a link to someone else documenting all the “lies and deceits”. \*\*

So, are you saying we can’t use the media as sources for debates? We have to personally break the story ourselves?

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2003, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeder-the-liberal-december/183903/55 "2003-06-24T17:57:00Z")

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> \*Originally posted by E-Sabbath \*  
> \*\*What, never? \*\*

NEVER.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2003, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeder-the-liberal-december/183903/56 "2003-06-24T18:13:44Z")

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[Okay NOW he’s getting there](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=192915)

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2003, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeder-the-liberal-december/183903/57 "2003-06-24T19:05:30Z")

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What never? Hardly ever…

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2003, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeder-the-liberal-december/183903/58 "2003-06-24T19:11:52Z")

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psst, **Guin** , didja read the OP???

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2003, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeder-the-liberal-december/183903/59 "2003-06-25T02:29:13Z")

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> \*Originally posted by E-Sabbath \*  
> \*\*What never? Hardly ever… \*\*

I said NEVER!

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**Author:** ![byter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e480ec/32.png) [@byter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/byter)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2003, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeder-the-liberal-december/183903/60 "2003-06-25T13:36:55Z")

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> \*Originally posted by TwistofFate \*  
> \*\*Well, Republicans have been obsessed with Clinton’s pants for far longer 😉 \*\*

Not true, but the interns dress is an entirely different matter.

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