# Reeder's Official Bush-Bashing Thread

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeders-official-bush-bashing-thread/233987
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [March 12, 2004, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeders-official-bush-bashing-thread/233987 "2004-03-12T23:54:26Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)
#### Post date: [March 12, 2004, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeders-official-bush-bashing-thread/233987/1 "2004-03-12T23:54:26Z")

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**Reeder** , from now on, please confine your complaints about Bush to this one thread. You may have ONE open thread about Bush in the BBQ Pit on the front page at a time. I will grant that Bush has many flaws, and they need to be examined, but first page space in any forum is at a premium.

Other people will get their very own Pet Politician Peeve thread as I think they deserve it.

Lynn  
For the Straight Dope

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### Author: ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2004, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeders-official-bush-bashing-thread/233987/2 "2004-03-13T00:01:12Z")

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This is just too, too funny.

**Lynn** , I fear you’ve taken all the fun out of it for **Reeder**. No more headlines… No more spotlights…

I have to wonder, though, if others might be more “deserving” of a special thread like this. I guess time will tell!

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### Author: ![ParentalAdvisory](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/53a042/32.png) [@ParentalAdvisory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParentalAdvisory)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2004, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeders-official-bush-bashing-thread/233987/3 "2004-03-13T00:03:01Z")

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Should it be made a sticky?

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### Author: ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2004, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeders-official-bush-bashing-thread/233987/4 "2004-03-13T00:08:22Z")

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Yay Lynn!

OK, I was gonna ask in the other (now locked) thread, but I’ll try again.

Dear **Reeder** :

1. What the fuck is it with you and George Bush, anyway? Did his limo run over your dog, or what?

2. Do you believe that we are totally incapable of finding news items critical of the current Emp- , er, President on our own, and thus you must search them out whereever they may be and bring them to us?

3. Do you believe that if only Bush is voted out of office, everything will be perfect again?

4. If your fondest wish is rewarded, and Bush is voted out come November, do you plan to be just as diligent at locating the most obscure criticism, no matter how petty and absurd, of his successor?

5. Don’t you have any other hobbies?

I know you seem to hate writing more than six words at a time in reply, but any light you can shed on the above matters would be appreciated. At least have a go at #4; it’s a “yes” or “no”, after all.

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### Author: ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2004, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeders-official-bush-bashing-thread/233987/5 "2004-03-13T00:11:04Z")

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Frankly, I find this kind of insulting and patronizing, Lynn. If you’re serious, and you expect Reeder to move his discussions in here, rather than to simply shut the hell up, I think you could have made that more clear.

This thread smells, to me at least, like snarky censorship: I know I wouldn’t, if I were Reeder, feel welcome to contribute to such a thread.

Why don’t you let him title his own thread, if you’re sincerely NOT daring him to shut up? Or perhaps offer him a more neutrally titled thread, “Criticism of George Bush” or something. I’m sure Reeder feels more like he’s shedding light on the truth than “bashing.”

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### Author: ![Metacom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@Metacom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Metacom)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2004, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeders-official-bush-bashing-thread/233987/6 "2004-03-13T00:23:55Z")

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[Lest](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=244704) [anyone](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=243308) [wonder](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=241429) [why](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=238765) [Reeder](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=237497) [deserves](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=235735) [this,](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=226845) [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=223488) [are](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=222099) [some](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=218198) [of](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=218561) [the](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=213835) [past](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=213800) [threads](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=208090) [on](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=207146) [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=207386) [subject](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=206315) [started](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=204715) [by](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=205569) [Reeder.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=204634)[Saddly,](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=204894) [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=202812) [isn’t](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=200258) [all](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=200255)[of](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=198869) [them.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=197666) [☹](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=197257).

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### Author: ![Mtgman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5a626/32.png) [@Mtgman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mtgman)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2004, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeders-official-bush-bashing-thread/233987/7 "2004-03-13T00:26:08Z")

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I’d just like to acknowledge the [comedy gold posted by **Metacom**](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=4635378&postcount=8) in his first two paragraphs of his post in the now-closed [“The president’s feet are not to touch the dirt”](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=244704) thread.

Well done sir!

As a comment on the “Official Bush-Bashing thread” idea, I also have to speak out against it. If any one individual poster is flooding the place, then that poster should be told to STFU, or at least STFD(slow the fuck down). Confining his particular participation to one thread creates a sort of second-class citizen status on the dope. Essentially canonizing the “one trick pony” label. Are you sure you want to make that official? If so, are you sure you want to deal with administrating it on an individual basis?

Want to make meta-threads like a “Criticism of Bush” thread? Fine by me. You’ll probably need one on gay marriage, horrid news story about child abuse of the week, SUV’s, Driving incidents, and dozens of other topics.

Enjoy,  
Steven

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### Author: ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2004, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeders-official-bush-bashing-thread/233987/8 "2004-03-13T00:28:19Z")

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Now, this is kinda unfair.

It is indeed funny, though.

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### Author: ![The\_Long\_Road](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b5a626/32.png) [@The\_Long\_Road](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Long_Road)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2004, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeders-official-bush-bashing-thread/233987/9 "2004-03-13T00:30:01Z")

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Well shit, I’ll post a response to one of his complaints about the secret service not wanting the presidents feet touching the [dirt](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=244704).  
Why oh why would a secret service agent not want the president of the United States to walk across a dirt field?

Hmmm, let me think… maybe **land mines**?

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### Author: ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2004, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeders-official-bush-bashing-thread/233987/10 "2004-03-13T00:31:05Z")

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I thought there were no joke threads allowed in the Pit. Ow! Cut it out!

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### Author: ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2004, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeders-official-bush-bashing-thread/233987/11 "2004-03-13T00:37:51Z")

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**Lynn** , I know you said “pet-peeve politicians”… but can I have my very own **Broken\_Column** -bashind thread? It would really mean a lot, and I promise not to use it to bash anyone else. Not even **Weirddave**.

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### Author: ![The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Devil_s_Grandmother)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2004, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeders-official-bush-bashing-thread/233987/12 "2004-03-13T00:41:37Z")

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> [@The Long Road](#):
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> Hmmm, let me think… maybe **land mines**?

Or Mad Cow disease. The last time I gave blood the nurse was very antsy about the fact I’d been to England/Wales and specifically asked me if I’d walked on any farm-dirt.

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### Author: ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2004, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeders-official-bush-bashing-thread/233987/13 "2004-03-13T00:42:01Z")

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We need some guidance on the Rules for the **Reeder** BushBash a thon. Now, does a simple recitation of cataclysmicly stupid actions/opinions constitute a “bashing”? Or need we strain our imaginations to come up with something he _isn’t_.

Wouldn’t it be simpler, and less strain on the hamsters, to have a thread that trumpets his glorious accomplishements? That would be so much briefer.

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### Author: ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2004, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeders-official-bush-bashing-thread/233987/14 "2004-03-13T00:42:04Z")

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> [@mtgman](#):
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> As a comment on the “Official Bush-Bashing thread” idea, I also have to speak out against it. If any one individual poster is flooding the place, then that poster should be told to STFU, or at least STFD(slow the fuck down). Confining his particular participation to one thread creates a sort of second-class citizen status on the dope. Essentially canonizing the “one trick pony” label. Are you sure you want to make that official? If so, are you sure you want to deal with administrating it on an individual basis?

This isn’t really all that different from other actions taken by the board’s administrators. They’ve often made specific warnings to posters warning them off from posting on specific subjects. **handy** was forbidden to post to any thread on medical subjects, and another poster (I want to say **lissener** , but I’m not sure if it was him, and apologize in advance if I’ve confused him with someone else) was forbidden to post about MicroSoft or engage in Mac v. PC debates, both under penalty of banning. This is actually more lenient, since **Reeder** is still free to engage in his favorite topic, he’s just not allowed to spam the boards with his content free OPs anymore. To quote the most notorious criminal of the 21st century, “It’s a good thing.”

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### Author: ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2004, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeders-official-bush-bashing-thread/233987/15 "2004-03-13T00:42:15Z")

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Dammit Lynn, I thought that latest bit on Bush’s dirt fetish was darned interesting, in a Hooveresque (J. Edgar) sort of way. Made me wonder if the trauma of 9/11 had anything to do with it, and whether [anything else](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=244703) might have changed for the commander in chief. 😉

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### Author: ![cheddarsnax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@cheddarsnax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cheddarsnax)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2004, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeders-official-bush-bashing-thread/233987/16 "2004-03-13T00:42:44Z")

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Just here to say that I’m with **lissener** on this one.

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### Author: ![The\_Long\_Road](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b5a626/32.png) [@The\_Long\_Road](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Long_Road)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2004, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeders-official-bush-bashing-thread/233987/17 "2004-03-13T00:46:56Z")

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> [@The Devil's Grandmother](#):
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> Or Mad Cow disease. The last time I gave blood the nurse was very antsy about the fact I’d been to England/Wales and specifically asked me if I’d walked on any farm-dirt.

Perhaps land mines which spew Mad Cow Disease!!! Those dastardly terrorists!  
When will the madness end?

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### Author: ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2004, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeders-official-bush-bashing-thread/233987/18 "2004-03-13T00:58:01Z")

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Or how about we just keep it to incredibly stupid stuff Fearless Misleader has done since he was first installed to infest the Oval Office? Of course, this will cut off any discussion of 1)his years as a feckless, ruling class parasite 2) his years as a spectacularly incompetent businessman 3) his glory year(s) as official pep rally leader for the Texas Rangers 4) his years as Texas Gov, the wholly owned subsidiary of men who would rather make money than breathe… This marks vast sections of the biography of The Man Who Fell Up off limits…but still, leaves us Perfidious Liars[sup]TM[/sup] with vast quantities of mendacity, arrogance, and sheer blither to discuss.

That seems fair.

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### Author: ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2004, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeders-official-bush-bashing-thread/233987/19 "2004-03-13T01:00:55Z")

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> [@lissener](#):
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> Frankly, I find this kind of insulting and patronizing, Lynn. If you’re serious, and you expect Reeder to move his discussions in here, rather than to simply shut the hell up, I think you could have made that more clear.
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> This thread smells, to me at least, like snarky censorship: I know I wouldn’t, if I were Reeder, feel welcome to contribute to such a thread.

I’m pretty sure the mods have gotten on other peoples’ cases before about having more than one thread open on the same topic on the front page of a forum. Since **Reeder** has a _loooooong_ history of doing just that, I think this is a fair way to handle it.

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### Author: ![sleeping](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/839c29/32.png) [@sleeping](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sleeping)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2004, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeders-official-bush-bashing-thread/233987/20 "2004-03-13T01:01:59Z")

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> [@cheddarsnax](#):
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> Just here to say that I’m with **lissener** on this one.

Just here to say that this thread is long overdue.

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