# Reeder's Official Bush-Bashing Thread
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeders-official-bush-bashing-thread/233987
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [March 12, 2004, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeders-official-bush-bashing-thread/233987 "2004-03-12T23:54:26Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 3
### Author:  [@TVeblen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVeblen)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2004, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeders-official-bush-bashing-thread/233987/41 "2004-03-13T04:22:04Z")
> [@lissener](#):
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> Frankly, I find this kind of insulting and patronizing, Lynn. If you’re serious, and you expect Reeder to move his discussions in here, rather than to simply shut the hell up, I think you could have made that more clear.
What isn’t clear?
IMHO (snerk, snerk) it’s a deft, exasperated attempt at house training.
This thread=litter box. “Unload what ya gotta but do it _here_.”
Veb
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### Author:  [@Doomtrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doomtrain)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2004, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeders-official-bush-bashing-thread/233987/42 "2004-03-13T04:34:09Z")
Bahaha! This is awesome.
I feel that, as a tribute, someone should post a link to this thread with, “Bodoni Suppresses Reeder’s Bush Bashing” as the text and, of course, “Thoughts?” below it.
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### Author:  [@gouda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gouda)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2004, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeders-official-bush-bashing-thread/233987/43 "2004-03-13T06:05:39Z")
This is effectively an official clamp-down on **Reeder’s** bush-bashing, isn’t it?
I mean, even if he does post something here, he’d have to make an announcement about it in a new thread just to get people to come over and check it out!
Was it really necessary?
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### Author:  [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2004, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeders-official-bush-bashing-thread/233987/44 "2004-03-13T06:59:50Z")
> [@Mtgman](#):
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> If any one individual poster is flooding the place, then that poster should be told to STFU, or at least STFD(slow the fuck down). Confining his particular participation to one thread creates a sort of second-class citizen status on the dope.
He has been told that. Repeatedly. I _know_ he’s been told to have no more than one anti-Bush thread active at a time before. Sounds to me like LynnCo is being lienient - they could have banned him.
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### Author:  [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2004, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeders-official-bush-bashing-thread/233987/45 "2004-03-13T08:12:18Z")
> [@](#):
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> Isn’t the consesus that warp cores are fueled by this sort of thing?
Hmm… excellent way to solve the energy and economic crises… plenty o’ power for us, and then we sell power to everyone else…
Anyway… anybody thinking of taking bets if Reeder’ll actually make a post? I mean, it IS his thread. That’s an honor that few get… almost nearly half as good as being welcomed by Cecil.
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### Author:  [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2004, 8:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeders-official-bush-bashing-thread/233987/46 "2004-03-13T08:24:20Z")
Should we have a single thread for all the Bush apologists to use in their perpetual kissing up of Fearless Misleader’s pasty Texas ass as well? Out of interest of fairness, of course. 😉
(Not that **Reeder** doesn’t deserve this, but the _yin_ of this thread needs a _yang_ somewhere, or harmony is lost…)
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### Author:  [@Sofa\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sofa_King)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2004, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeders-official-bush-bashing-thread/233987/47 "2004-03-13T11:38:46Z")
My dear **rjung** , might I remind you that this coming year will be absent of a **december**? One might argue that harmony was lost when the liberals won back winter solstace, progressive taxation, and gay marriage from the opinion pages of the _Wall Street Journal_ , the editorial staff of which I have since learned is far more uninformed than the front page would have one believe.
Unbalanced perhaps, but perhaps the _yang_ is actually the voice of the _ **totally fucking ignorant poltroons who continue to defend this simultaneously incompetent and criminal Administration which threatens to destroy our very existence** _. The most ascerbic and irrelevant of the _yin_ just sometimes has to be contained in a single spout of hyperbole which rightfully or not is confined to one blow-hole.
If it’s explosive intellectual diarrheah, perhaps it is best to confine the patient to one room. It doesn’t mean the disease isn’t fatal if left untreated.
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### Author:  [@Gomez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gomez)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2004, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeders-official-bush-bashing-thread/233987/48 "2004-03-13T13:47:00Z")
> [@Smeghead](#):
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> He has been told that. Repeatedly. I know he’s been told to have no more than one anti-Bush thread active at a time before. Sounds to me like LynnCo is being lienient - they could have banned him.
Frankly, they’d have done better to ban him than make a fool out of him like this. The whole idea of this thread is a shamelessly blatent (not to mention disgustingly patronizing and humiliating) ploy to run **Reeder** off the boards. Since he hasn’t done anything overtly banworthy and since, if Lynn banned him, there would be a backlash, she’s decided to try and bully him off the Dope instead.
To my mind we simply cannot have enough threads castigating Bush. I know this may jar slightly in the patchouli saturated minds of the oh-so-fair minded and egalitarian pink tutu liberals of the SDMB who wouldn’t _dream_ polluting the public discourse by fighting dirty, but it’s the truth.
**Reeder** seems to be one of the few people on the boards who realises that American political discourse doesn’t take the form of a nice happy little dialectic destined to end in a compromise Hegelian synthesis but of a _ **knife fight** _.
Sure, **Reeder’s** style may jar with some and turn a few people off. But you know what? The self satisfied and condescending tut-tutting of stupefied liberal idiots unprepared and unwilling to fight back against the tide of bilous liberal bashing flooding the public discourse _also_ turns some people off and I don’t think anyone is in a position to objectively declare which tactic is more effective.
Reeder **should** be allowed to post anti-Bush threads. Only the most myopic of hyperbolic idiots would ever claim he is actually _flooding_ the boards. If we’re only allowed to debate issues within the confines of netiquette set by **Lynn Bodoni** then what the fuck good is this site at all?
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### Author:  [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2004, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeders-official-bush-bashing-thread/233987/49 "2004-03-13T14:09:53Z")
> [@furt](#):
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> Aw, screw Bush _and_ Kerry.
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> Lynn for President!
IF those were my only options, I’d screw Lynn before either of those other two.
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### Author:  [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2004, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeders-official-bush-bashing-thread/233987/50 "2004-03-13T14:27:33Z")
> [@Gomez](#):
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> Sure, **Reeder’s** style may jar with some and turn a few people off.
Respectfully, his “style”, as you term it, appears to often be “here is something I found on a liberal blog/website/somewhere that shows Bush is History’s Greatest Monster because of something inane. Refute this or else it stands true.”
That’s not, and never had been, intelligent discourse. That’s trolling. And others have been banned for it.
> [@](#):
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> If we’re only allowed to debate issues within the confines of netiquette set by **Lynn Bodoni** then what the fuck good is this site at all?
Every board has Rules. We’re not allowed to discuss file-sharing programs here either, so I guess by your standard this site isn’t any good because of that? In fact, there have been hundreds, if not thousands, of “corrections” to the course by Moderator action in debate threads over the years. These all sum to a “standards of behaviour” which should be clear to any person who has been here for more than a month.
The Rules are not something that were created in a vacuum by the Staff. The Rules were created by evolution based on thousands of hours of experience of the Staff being used to draw up a judgment of “what limits can we generally set to balance intelligent discourse with troll removal”. Since no two people agree 100% on Rules, by definition any set Rules will cause someone to be unhappy.
The Rules here allow for the Staff, especially Administrators, to use whatever methods they see fit to keep the SDMB and the enclosed discussions on course. And this includes public castigation and ridicule of a person who is behaving in a manner deserving of such. This also is in the “spirit” of Cecil, who has been well known over the decades to use wit to point out the cluelessness of…well, the clueless.
If the SDMB is a huge society or “nation” of people trying to talk intelligently, then what Reeder is doing is the equivalent of a PCP-crazed pirate radio operator broadcasting on 580AM about being anal-probed by giant, intelligent rabbits - sent by Bush, I suppose.
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### Author:  [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2004, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeders-official-bush-bashing-thread/233987/51 "2004-03-13T14:29:57Z")
> [@](#):
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> Reeder seems to be one of the few people on the boards who realises that American political discourse doesn’t take the form of a nice happy little dialectic destined to end in a compromise Hegelian synthesis but of a knife fight.
So, this board, in your view, is not about fighting ignorance but spreading partisan propaganda? Well, thanks, but I get enough of that particular brand of mendacity in real life.
> [@](#):
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> Sure, Reeder’s style may jar with some and turn a few people off. But you know what? The self satisfied and condescending tut-tutting of stupefied liberal idiots unprepared and unwilling to fight back against the tide of bilous liberal bashing flooding the public discourse also turns some people off and I don’t think anyone is in a position to objectively declare which tactic is more effective.
Right, so in your view the proper response to the posting of irrelevant partisan bullshit is to post still more irrelevant partisan bullshit from the opposite viewpoint, and the person who posts the most partisan bullshit wins? Thanks for explaining that.
> [@](#):
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> To my mind we simply cannot have enough threads castigating Bush.
Actually, we can have more than enough threads about anything, if they say the same fucking things over and over and over again.
I’m not trying to be a junior mod here, just expressing my opinion, but I for one didn’t join this board out of a burning desire to read some mook’s misguided attempts at political advertising, and I personally don’t care from which side the yammering comes, I just wish y’all would shut the fuck up.
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### Author:  [@county](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/county)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2004, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeders-official-bush-bashing-thread/233987/52 "2004-03-13T15:28:20Z")
Well, what this thread has effectively done is completely silence Mr. Reeder on our incumbent president Bush; as all discussion of Bush has been superceded by discussion of the instant thread, with this thread being the only outlet for Mr. Reeder’s discussion of Bush.
Pretty slick.
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### Author:  [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2004, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeders-official-bush-bashing-thread/233987/53 "2004-03-13T15:49:59Z")
Am I upset?
Nah. You have to care about a person before words hurt.
All I did was point out the little things. All I was trying to do was show that there was much more than the big issues. Much has been and will continue to be posted ad infinitum about the big issues.
But if the board wants me silenced on the issue, so be it.
I do notice that the only profanity in this thread was by right wingers.
Why is that? Did I step on some toes?
I sure as hell hope so.
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### Author:  [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2004, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeders-official-bush-bashing-thread/233987/54 "2004-03-13T15:57:02Z")
Reeder, Keep up the good work.
Never let em see ya sweat!
To make up for the discrepancy:
I am a left winger so shit!
There.
Now there is profanity from the left.
🙂
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### Author:  [@Dewey\_Cheatem\_Undhow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Cheatem_Undhow)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2004, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeders-official-bush-bashing-thread/233987/55 "2004-03-13T16:07:35Z")
Methinks **Reeder** is hoping Mel Gibson will make a movie about him.
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### Author:  [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2004, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeders-official-bush-bashing-thread/233987/56 "2004-03-13T16:26:19Z")
> [@Dewey Cheatem Undhow](#):
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> Methinks **Reeder** is hoping Mel Gibson will make a movie about him.
I didn’t know **Reeder** had a fucked-up face.
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### Author:  [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2004, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeders-official-bush-bashing-thread/233987/57 "2004-03-13T16:56:39Z")
Hm. Somehow I was picturing Reeder driving a methanol-powered deathmobile across a post-apocalyptic Australia. I’m hearing a voice-over:
> [@](#):
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> …after Bush’s ‘Clear Skies’ initiative destroyed the environment, crops failed worldwide. Famine came next, and under Bush’s New World Order, the Bottom 90% of society perished - as he planned. All other religions fell under the weight of the Christian Right, who crowned Bush ‘Pope of the West’. His theocratic legions spilled forth like vomit from the maw of Hell itself, and the streets became a jungle of stockbrokers, oil company executives, SDMB Moderators, and the NRA - who ruled by force with impunity thanks to Bush’s ‘mandatory assault weapon’ policy.
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> The White Wave spread across the World like the shadow of Sauron, and Bush became God-Emperor of a Plutocracy on this dying planet. Save for one nation who dared to fight evil. One nation that was not afraid of standing tall to fight this monster. One nation of the beautiful people.
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> Australia.
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> I’m Reeder. And may his ‘God’ have mercy on Bush’s soul. Because I won’t.
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> (cue sound of engine revving)
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### Author:  [@Governor\_Quinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Governor_Quinn)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2004, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeders-official-bush-bashing-thread/233987/58 "2004-03-13T17:05:51Z")
> [@Dewey Cheatem Undhow](#):
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> Methinks **Reeder** is hoping Mel Gibson will make a movie about him.
**Reeder** ’s a Scottish patriot?
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### Author:  [@Doomtrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doomtrain)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2004, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeders-official-bush-bashing-thread/233987/59 "2004-03-13T17:08:33Z")
> [@Una Persson](#):
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> Hm. Somehow I was picturing Reeder driving a methanol-powered deathmobile across a post-apocalyptic Australia. I’m hearing a voice-over:
Good lord, Una, that was fucking brilliant.
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### Author:  [@DebiJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DebiJ)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2004, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reeders-official-bush-bashing-thread/233987/60 "2004-03-13T17:14:14Z")
> [@Monster104](#):
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> The Admin of another board I frequent did this to the local insane liberal with the same problem as Reeder, and it worked. I’m all for it.
Let me get this straight. Reeder is insane because he doesn’t like Bush and is vocal about it? I bet you voted for Bush in the 2000 non-election too.
I guess under your theory that he’s insane because he doesn’t like Bush, then I must be insane too because I don’t like Bush, I don’t like Lyndon Larouche either, but wait… that shouldn’t count since he DID run for office from a jail cell.
Granted, I don’t always read the boards in here like Reeder does, and I don’t answer many of them when I do, but I find it insulting that there is a bush bashing thread that Reeder is supposed to stick to and there isn’t a thread that any other person has to stick to or one for the opposition during this election - not just Kerry, but every nominee.
This is censorship.
I’m just wondering why there is a Bush Bashing thread for Reeder when there are a lot of other people who are just as vocal PRO bush. Is this board’s official position one of support for Bush? Why, too, is there a Bush-bashing thread for Reeder when ANY post that Reeder makes (political or not) turns that thread into a Reeder-bashing thread. Why are you censoring him and not other people who bash HIM? Yes, he does tend to go on about Bush a lot. But then Georgethesecond deserves what he gets. When he was elected, he knew that he was opening himself up for criticism, and he understands that. Maybe it’s time that the Bushies here at SD understand it too. WHEN YOU TAKE OFFICE, YOU ALSO TAKE ON THE CRITICISM OF THOSE THAT DISAGREE WITH YOU. The fact that Reeder hasn’t been arrested by the Secret Service shows me that Georgethesecond, like Georgethefirst, doesn’t really care what Reeder says.
Lynn, is this just your opinion or are the other admins on the board in agreement that you want to start this kind of precedent?
BTW Gomez, if you think that this will run Reeder off the board, or even bother him… you don’t know him very well. 🙂
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