# Reexamining Star Wars 50 years later

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reexamining-star-wars-50-years-later/1026810>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** movies\
**Created:** [January 19, 2026, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reexamining-star-wars-50-years-later/1026810 "2026-01-19T00:48:38Z")\
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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
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> [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](#):
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> Chewie’s last name is MacGyver?

Yes, but it’s pronounced “Yaaaarrrrgh!”

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2026, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reexamining-star-wars-50-years-later/1026810/202 "2026-01-23T15:18:29Z")

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No, “Yaaaarrrrghwarbler Mangrave”.

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**Post date:** [January 23, 2026, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reexamining-star-wars-50-years-later/1026810/203 "2026-01-23T19:02:42Z")

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> [@Dinsdale](#):
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> Well, seems R2 and BB8 are able to do quite a bit of work on the fly.

In the top, sure

> [@Dinsdale](#):
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> My thinking, tho, was that that maintenance could have been done at any time that the ships were just sitting there docked - BEFORE they were scrambling.

They would’ve, but they had to take mandatory training on recognizing phishing emails

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2026, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reexamining-star-wars-50-years-later/1026810/204 "2026-01-23T19:58:56Z")

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> [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](#):
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> So you’re saying that Chewie’s last name is MacGyver?

It’s Barracus.

(hums A-Team theme…)

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**Author:** ![GESancMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gesancman/32/2923_2.png) [@GESancMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GESancMan)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2026, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reexamining-star-wars-50-years-later/1026810/205 "2026-01-23T20:34:24Z")

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Chewie does have a B. A.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2026, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reexamining-star-wars-50-years-later/1026810/206 "2026-01-23T21:31:49Z")

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I think not, otherwise _at some point_ in one of the three movies they would’ve been locked up in a site containing all kinds of tools and materials and then they would’ve forced their way out in some kind of outlandish (but awesome) vehicle they manufactured from the previously mentioned materials with the aforementioned tools…

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**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2026, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reexamining-star-wars-50-years-later/1026810/207 "2026-01-23T21:47:33Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> > [@Cartooniverse](#):
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> > You said “Trekkers”, not “Trekkies”.
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> > God bless ya. 😊
> > 
> > It’s a space opera. I’m also a Trekker from the word go.
> 
> Stick with me, baby. 😉
> 
> When I saw the first episode on Sept 8, 1966, I had just begun my senior year of high school. I fell in love with Spock the moment I laid eyes on him. Sadly, I have always been drawn to the aloof, taciturn, smart, nerdy guy who is also sad and tortured. (Before him, it was Sherlock Holmes.) I was _besotted_ with Spock and with the show. It took the rest of the world awhile to catch up.
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> Never could stand Kirk. Cocky, full of himself, thinks he’s God’s gift to women. Supposedly he was modeled (somewhat) after Horatio Hornblower, but I’ve read all those books (BTW the late 90s TV series was quite good – I have the boxed set), and Hornblower was brilliant but also humble and consumed with self-doubt. THAT’S appealing, namely, the wounded hero, not a posturing blowhard. I’ve always said that I don’t mind a guy being cocky, as long as he has something to be cocky _about_.

–Twitch–  
You saw them as they first aired???  
–Twitch–

I’m not worthy. 😃

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2026, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reexamining-star-wars-50-years-later/1026810/208 "2026-01-23T22:28:35Z")

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A LOT of folks in this thread are that age. I’m a bit younger than @ThelmaLou, but I happily watched ST when it was a first run prime time weekly show.

I liked it but never went off the deep end. I’ve seen a couple of the early movies when they came out and nothing else since. Nor am I interested in any of it. But the original was good weekly TV for its era and my kidly sensibilities.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2026, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reexamining-star-wars-50-years-later/1026810/209 "2026-01-23T23:01:16Z")

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I’m old. What can I say?

* * *

The first movie was an abomination. The Wrath of Khan was good and so was The Voyage Home. Scotty trying to talk into the computer mouse on the Macintosh 512K-- hehe.

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**Author:** ![caligulathegod](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/caligulathegod/32/9685_2.png) [@caligulathegod](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/caligulathegod)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2026, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reexamining-star-wars-50-years-later/1026810/210 "2026-01-24T00:05:13Z")

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Correct. This is the screenplay

```
                                 HAN
                     Fast ship? You've never heard of the 
                     Millennium Falcon?

                                 BEN
                     Should I have?

                                 HAN
                     It's the ship that made the Kessel 
                     run in less than twelve parsecs!

           Ben reacts to Solo's stupid attempt to impress them with 
           obvious misinformation.

```

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2026, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reexamining-star-wars-50-years-later/1026810/211 "2026-01-24T02:17:43Z")

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Most of the time when you look up the Star Wars screenplay you’ll be getting a transcript written by some rando who uploaded it sometime in the 90s.

In the novelisation by Alan Dean Foster the line is “It’s the ship that made the Kessel Run in less than twelve standard timeparts!”

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**Author:** ![caligulathegod](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/caligulathegod/32/9685_2.png) [@caligulathegod](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/caligulathegod)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2026, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reexamining-star-wars-50-years-later/1026810/212 "2026-01-24T02:18:34Z")

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It’s not a transcript. It is the official published screenplay.

[![](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51YDkCJkrLL._AC_UF1000,1000_QL80_.jpg) ](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51YDkCJkrLL._AC_UF1000,1000_QL80_.jpg)

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2026, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reexamining-star-wars-50-years-later/1026810/213 "2026-01-24T02:23:47Z")

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Okay, fair enough. Here’s the final [shooting script](https://archive.org/details/star-wars-ep-iv-a-new-hope-1977-george-lucas-1976-03-15-4th/page/48/mode/2up). Han’s line’s on page 49. No scene description of Han’s bluster included.

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2026, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reexamining-star-wars-50-years-later/1026810/214 "2026-01-24T13:26:09Z")

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I find your lack of faith disturbing, 🥷

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2026, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reexamining-star-wars-50-years-later/1026810/215 "2026-01-24T16:43:04Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> I find your lack of faith disturbing

# Enough of this! Terentii, release him!

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2026, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reexamining-star-wars-50-years-later/1026810/216 "2026-01-24T17:53:38Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> When I saw the first episode on Sept 8, 1966, I had just begun my senior year of high school. I fell in love with Spock the moment I laid eyes on him.

You weren’t the only one. TOS ran during my three years of high school, and I dated an early Trekker who also loved Spock. (I have a picture of him she did somewhere.) We started going out after I taped an episode for her - her parents made her go to a movie during Star Trek time. The episode was “Trouble with Tribbles.”  
By tape I mean using a cassette audio recorder, of course.  
A woman in the SF club in college made me stop off at Leonard Nimoy’s father’s barberhshop on the way back from the picnic.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
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> [@Voyager](#):
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> Leonard Nimoy’s father’s barberhshop on the way back from the picnic.

_S-w-o-o-o-nnn…_

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
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As you wish. 😠

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> [@Irishman](#):
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> I also note that Solo has a scene where Han confronts someone and shoots the guy before he can shoot. I think that was someone saying to Lucas, “No, you got it right the first time.”

Heck, as far as I can tell, _Lucas_ already wound up saying that to Lucas: what does Han Solo do in Cloud City, right when he sees Darth Vader?

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2026, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reexamining-star-wars-50-years-later/1026810/220 "2026-01-24T22:55:08Z")

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One of my big problems with Star Wars was Han treating Chewbacca as a pet. If I was Chewie, and Han ruffled my hair, I would have pulled his arm out of it’s socket.

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