# Reflecting Pool case against David Hearn dropped

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reflecting-pool-case-against-david-hearn-dropped/1032087>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [August 1, 2026, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reflecting-pool-case-against-david-hearn-dropped/1032087 "2026-08-01T20:14:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2026, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reflecting-pool-case-against-david-hearn-dropped/1032087/81 "2026-08-04T00:49:08Z")

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Filled with fifths of cheap vodka.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2026, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reflecting-pool-case-against-david-hearn-dropped/1032087/82 "2026-08-04T01:12:43Z")

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I was about to make a similar joke but very much appreciate the extra effort.

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**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2026, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reflecting-pool-case-against-david-hearn-dropped/1032087/83 "2026-08-04T02:30:49Z")

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> [@Maserschmidt](#):
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> very much appreciate the extra effort

Yes, well played @wguy123

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**Author:** ![Greg\_Charles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/839c29/32.png) [@Greg\_Charles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greg_Charles)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2026, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reflecting-pool-case-against-david-hearn-dropped/1032087/84 "2026-08-04T02:32:11Z")

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Ah, you’re both way ahead of me. Everything I could find indicated that at least three people were still being persecuted (not a typo) and their names hadn’t been released.

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**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2026, 10:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reflecting-pool-case-against-david-hearn-dropped/1032087/85 "2026-08-04T10:32:57Z")

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> Pirro argued in her filing that the Department of Interior “provided less than fulsome information at the outset of this case.”

Fell into the classic trap of using fancy words to sound smart without knowing what they mean.

> **[fulsome:](https://www.dictionary.com/browse/fulsome)** offensive to good taste, especially as being excessive; overdone or gross.
> 
> offensive to good taste, especially as being excessive; overdone or gross.
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> disgusting; sickening; repulsive.
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> a table heaped with fulsome mounds of greasy foods.
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> excessively or insincerely lavish.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2026, 10:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reflecting-pool-case-against-david-hearn-dropped/1032087/86 "2026-08-04T10:54:01Z")

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Certainly a word applicable to this administration in many other ways though.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2026, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reflecting-pool-case-against-david-hearn-dropped/1032087/87 "2026-08-04T12:48:20Z")

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Update:

[**Prosecutors drop charges against all 4 people accused of vandalizing Reflecting Pool**](https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/dc/national-mall/prosecutors-drop-charges-all-four-people-vandal-reflecting-pool-david-hearn-justin-carreno-cameron-theirs-sophie-dennison-gibby-trump-pirro/65-1eb37c41-aa99-49c1-96f7-b48acdaf46c9)

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2026, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reflecting-pool-case-against-david-hearn-dropped/1032087/88 "2026-08-04T14:23:00Z")

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Good news

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2026, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reflecting-pool-case-against-david-hearn-dropped/1032087/89 "2026-08-04T15:41:01Z")

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It seems to me his perfect defense was that if you easily peel off a piece of paint, that paint no longer is of any use and would have to come off at the next painting anyway. He actually saved the government money by doing some of the prep work for the next paint job for free.

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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2026, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reflecting-pool-case-against-david-hearn-dropped/1032087/90 "2026-08-04T19:12:54Z")

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It’s telling that TMZ now has full time DC reporters.

> **[TMZ starts reporting on politics and pop culture in DC](https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/from-hollywood-to-capitol-hill-tmz-launches-dc-bureau/4090417/)**
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> The entertainment outlet TMZ sent three producers to D.C. to start uncovering politics and poop culture.

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**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2026, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reflecting-pool-case-against-david-hearn-dropped/1032087/91 "2026-08-04T19:32:49Z")

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There’s certainly a lot of poop to uncover.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2026, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reflecting-pool-case-against-david-hearn-dropped/1032087/92 "2026-08-04T20:16:31Z")

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It’ll be interesting to see how that goes. I’m guessing a large number of TMZ readers are under 30 or so.  
With that being said, I’ve never really been able to nail down where they land politically. I know Harvey (the founder) used to be a big Trump supporter, but I’m not sure if that’s still the case. When they do cover politics, it doesn’t usually seem to be one way or the other. If they’re going for the most scandalous stories, hopefully they’ll find themselves focusing more on the Right.

I wonder how long it’ll be before Trump decides they need to “lose their license” or someone needs to be fired or he leans on whatever network currently airs them until they bend to his will.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2026, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reflecting-pool-case-against-david-hearn-dropped/1032087/93 "2026-08-04T22:51:57Z")

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> [@Johanna](#):
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> > Pirro argued in her filing that the Department of Interior “provided less than fulsome information at the outset of this case.”
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> Fell into the classic trap of using fancy words to sound smart without knowing what they mean.

I, too, feel a distinct lack of respect for those who use “fulsome” as if it were an Extra Fancy way of saying “full.”

Of course Pirro is a bit sub-literate. All those Donald hires are----it’s basically a job requirement.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2026, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reflecting-pool-case-against-david-hearn-dropped/1032087/94 "2026-08-04T23:31:32Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> > [@Johanna](#):
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> > Fell into the classic trap of using fancy words to sound smart without knowing what they mean.
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> I, too, feel a distinct lack of respect for those who use “fulsome” as if it were an Extra Fancy way of saying “full.”
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> Of course Pirro is a bit sub-literate. All those Donald hires are----it’s basically a job requirement.

This is an older and probably okay usage.

[https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fulsome](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fulsome)

> **1**
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> **a**
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> **:** characterized by abundance **: [COPIOUS](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/copious)**
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> … describes in _fulsome_ detail …—G. N. Shuster
> 
> _fulsome_ bird life. The feeder overcrowded—Maxine Kumin
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> **b**
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> **:** generous in amount, extent, or spirit
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> He was _fulsome_ in his praise of Mrs. Wharton’s first novel …—R. W. B. Lewisr
> 
> a _fulsome_ victory for the far left—Bruce Rothwell
> 
> the greetings have been _fulsome_, the farewells tender—Simon Gray
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> **c**
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> **:** being full and well developed
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> … she was in generally _fulsome_, limpid voice …—Thor Eckert, Jr.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2026, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reflecting-pool-case-against-david-hearn-dropped/1032087/95 "2026-08-05T12:22:49Z")

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Canadians seem to use it that way all the time. Makes me twitch.

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**Author:** ![keeganst94](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a6a055/32.png) [@keeganst94](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/keeganst94)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2026, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reflecting-pool-case-against-david-hearn-dropped/1032087/96 "2026-08-05T13:55:20Z")

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As a Canadian, that’s the only way I’ve ever heard it used until now. Even the dictionaries appear confused on this issue: Merriam-Webster lists “copious” as the first definition, “offensive” as the 2nd; Cambridge lists it as a synonym for “smarmy”; Collins has it as smarmy or insincere first, full or abundant 2nd, and disgusting as archaic; and [dictionary.com](http://dictionary.com) basically has the reverse order as Collins.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2026, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reflecting-pool-case-against-david-hearn-dropped/1032087/97 "2026-08-05T13:58:51Z")

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Antonyms are the worst.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2026, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reflecting-pool-case-against-david-hearn-dropped/1032087/98 "2026-08-05T14:01:30Z")

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Especially auto-antonyms.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2026, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reflecting-pool-case-against-david-hearn-dropped/1032087/99 "2026-08-05T15:15:48Z")

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> [@beowulff](#):
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> There’s certainly a lot of poop to uncover.

A new spin on “culture.”

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2026, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reflecting-pool-case-against-david-hearn-dropped/1032087/100 "2026-08-05T15:33:28Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> So why would she be bringing the box out of there?

I had read that she went to that meeting with Trump at the White House armed with details on why there was no case against Hearn; I’d theorize that that white “banker’s box” was full of said files.

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