# Refused Fans......... **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 5, 2002, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/refused-fans/122412 "2002-08-05T10:30:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![fallapart](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fallapart/32/3018_2.png) [@fallapart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fallapart)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2002, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/refused-fans/122412/1 "2002-08-05T10:30:53Z")
ok, im sure by now most Refused fans are aware that Crazy Town covered New Noise, i have yet to hear it. i was wondering if any of you guy’s could give me you’re take on it (i know its bad, but how bad?). ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2002, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/refused-fans/122412/2 "2002-08-05T11:07:53Z")
Que? ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2002, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/refused-fans/122412/3 "2002-08-05T11:51:52Z")
No no, spooje, that’s ¿Qué? ---
**Author:** ![Gozu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gozu/32/6615_2.png) [@Gozu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gozu)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2002, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/refused-fans/122412/4 "2002-08-05T12:32:52Z")
Quoi? ---
**Author:** ![Soul\_Brother\_Number\_Two](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/soul_brother_number_two/32/3515_2.png) [@Soul\_Brother\_Number\_Two](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soul_Brother_Number_Two)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2002, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/refused-fans/122412/5 "2002-08-05T18:51:32Z")
I feel so old today… ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2002, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/refused-fans/122412/6 "2002-08-05T19:44:12Z")
> [@](#): > > \*\*¿Qué? \*\* _Refused_ es una venda neo-punk que adaptó para arriba 1998. _Crazy Town_ es una venda de groove/rap que cubrió una canción por _Refused_ llamado “New Noise”. Los ventiladores de _Refused_ no son felices que una venda de groove/rap es la cubierta una de canciones neo-punk allí preferidas. ¿Entienda? I haven’t heard it, so I can’t comment. ---
**Author:** ![Mac\_Guffin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2bfe46/32.png) [@Mac\_Guffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mac_Guffin)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2002, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/refused-fans/122412/7 "2002-08-05T20:41:31Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Beeblebrox \* > \*\*_Refused_ es una venda neo-punk que adaptó para arriba 1998. _Crazy Town_ es una venda de groove/rap que cubrió una canción por _Refused_ llamado “New Noise”. Los ventiladores de _Refused_ no son felices que una venda de groove/rap es la cubierta una de canciones neo-punk allí preferidas. ¿Entienda? > > I haven’t heard it, so I can’t comment. \*\* Facinating. I ran the above thru Bablefish and got the following… \*\* > [@](#): > > Babel Fish Translation, In English: > > Refused is a Wendish neon-punk that adapted above for 1998. Crazy Town is a bandage of groove/rap that covered a song by called Refused “New Noise”. The ventilators of Refused are not happy that a bandage of groove/rap is the cover one of songs neon-punk preferred there. Understand? \*\* I still don’t get it. Wendish neon-punk? Bandage of groove/rap? Ventilators of Refused? Who’s the what in the who now? ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2002, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/refused-fans/122412/8 "2002-08-05T20:49:58Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Beeblebrox \* > **ventiladores** _\* ¡No, no, no! _Venda_ significa “bandage,” no _banda_. Y _Ventiladores_ (ventilators) significa _abanicos_ (fans that move air), no _fanáticos_ (enthusiasts). ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2002, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/refused-fans/122412/9 "2002-08-05T21:11:44Z")
That’s hilarious, my sister (who is completely fluent) would have probably shot me for mangling the Spanish so badly. I have a confession to make, I used babel fish to make the original translation into Spanish and then merely fixed some of the grammar using my anemic Spainsh. Just lazy, really. I suppose I should have remembered that Babel fish really, _really_ sucks and proofread more (thus avoiding the stupid fan=ventilators thing). Going slower and relying on words I know a little better, rather than just careless Babel fish translations, I get the following: _Refused_ es una grupo de neopunk que dividido durante 1998. _Crazy Town_ es una grupo de groove/rap que cubrió una canción por _Refused_, “New Noise”. La gente que aprecia _Refused_ no son felices con _Crazy Town_. ¿Entienda? That should work better. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2002, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/refused-fans/122412/10 "2002-08-05T21:50:54Z")
Much better, **Beeblebrox.** I figured you must have used Babelfish in order to generate such a bad translation. 😉 (Psst. But it’s _un grupo_, not _una grupo_. And _gente_ is singular: _está feliz_, not _son felices_). ---
**Author:** ![fallapart](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fallapart/32/3018_2.png) [@fallapart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fallapart)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2002, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/refused-fans/122412/11 "2002-08-06T02:32:05Z")
ok ok ok. im sorry about the ambiguity of my OP ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Mac\_Guffin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2bfe46/32.png) [@Mac\_Guffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mac_Guffin)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2002, 9:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/refused-fans/122412/12 "2002-08-06T09:49:40Z")
Aw, we were just funnin’ ya, **fallapart**! Although I, (an old fogie at 36) haven’t the slightest idea who any of these people are… ---
**Author:** ![bluecanary](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bluecanary/32/3614_2.png) [@bluecanary](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bluecanary)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2002, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/refused-fans/122412/13 "2002-08-06T11:27:30Z")
😕 Why is this thread in the pit? ---
**Author:** ![fallapart](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fallapart/32/3018_2.png) [@fallapart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fallapart)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2002, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/refused-fans/122412/14 "2002-08-06T11:29:05Z")
i know i know, i should have realized that. i should have put this in MPSIMS, but for some reason i thought things might get ugly, oh well. thanks anyway 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![bluecanary](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bluecanary/32/3614_2.png) [@bluecanary](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bluecanary)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2002, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/refused-fans/122412/15 "2002-08-06T11:36:36Z")
Not sure why. Maybe you have to be a true rock fan to be offended by this??? ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2002, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/refused-fans/122412/16 "2002-08-06T13:04:23Z")
> [@](#): > > ¿Entienda? Sí claro, pero no tienes que tratarme de usted. ---
**Author:** ![Sublight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Sublight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sublight)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2002, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/refused-fans/122412/17 "2002-08-06T13:11:56Z")
Sorry, I don’t get it. I must be too much of a boy for Crazy Town.