# Regarding Muslim fundies

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-muslim-fundies/248382>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [June 3, 2004, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-muslim-fundies/248382 "2004-06-03T02:18:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![Aldebaran](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Aldebaran](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aldebaran)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2004, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-muslim-fundies/248382/101 "2004-06-07T18:33:29Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> You were responding to a post of mine, and there are only two people talking to you in this thread at this point. Your condescending tone and your previous remarks make it clear to me you don’t think I know anything about Islam.

You had the wrong impression then. (yes, I know my posts can be unclear.)

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> I’m on the verge of bashing my head open on the desk here, **Aldebaran**.

Don’t do that… I abandoned medical study after one semester but even I can tell you that it is not a healthy thing to do.

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> I never said they did. I have said _MULTIPLE TIMES IN ALL OF MY POSTS TO THIS THREAD_ that that is not the case. I have provided you with three different dictionary definitions of fundamentalism that have all made this same point clear.

It is exactly your definitions that cause this discussion.  
I don’t see where is **not** said in these definitions that they “return to, stricly adhere to **fundamental principles and doctrines** ” which then paints them to be fundamentalists… According these definitions.

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> I’m bored as hell of saying it at this point; it’s very frustrating to try to communicate with you.

I know that 🙂 Sorry…  
I’m a stubborn creature and not easily convinced of having something wrong… (You don’t even have to deal with me in real life… Yet the good news is that people manage to survive even that.

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> by your selective definition fundamentalists don’t exist, and I think most people who aren’t you would agree that’s not the case.

I didn’t say that.

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> The Taliban practice a perverted version of Islam, but to say it isn’t Islam at all doesn’t make sense.

To make what they practice come close to what Islam is about you need to send them to a sort of re-education camp in good old Communist style in order to undo their self-brainwashing.  
That does not mean they do not believe in God and have the right to call themselves Muslims. Anyone has the right to believe that what he believes is the right thing.

But I must say that the Mad Taliban at least seem to have a vague idea of what Islam “could” be. One can’t say that of terrorists.  
Salaam. A

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**Author:** ![Aldebaran](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Aldebaran](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aldebaran)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2004, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-muslim-fundies/248382/102 "2004-06-07T18:36:58Z")

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> [@braintree](#):
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> Thank you, Clarence Darrow. I see it’s impossible to pull the wool over your eyes.

Sorry, not familiar with that name and it is said that I have “feminin” eyelashes, yes = long ones… Yet that does not make them turn into wooly things that cover my sight.

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> Look, I have repeatedly explained that my remark was just a cheap wisecrack at the expense of pedophiles. I was not seriously maintaining that they’re actually out fucking camels — hell, now that I think of it, I’m not sure if Afghanistan even has camels, although it is next to Iran which, I believe, does.

Yes, it was cheap indeed and not refering to the average Western pedophile.  
Afghanistan must have still a few camels left.

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> And, of course, the point of my previous post — which I see that I’m going to have to explain to our friend the scholar here — is that, if someone’s already a know pedophile, it’s really impossible to damage their reputation further by calling them a camel fucker. The camel reference was just to give it a little local color.

Well, I am not a scholar in peadophiles and their weird habits…  
I agree that no matter what is said about them can in no way damage their reputation more then being what they are. (champagne, we agree on something).  
It was however the local colour in your remark that made my quills rise.

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> I’ll tell you what, Aldebaran. If you want to attack me again, here’s what I’d like to see you do: I’d like to see you repeat my explanation in such a way that I can recognize it as my own.

That is difficult. I have already enough difficulties to recognize what I write as my own.

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> So far all you’ve been able to come up with are a bunch of distorted caricatures that really don’t stike me as being all that familiar.

Which makes me happy for you.  
You would make me the same if you would then accept my apologies for making you feel a stranger inside your own self.

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> Of course, if you quoted me accurately, it would be a lot more difficult to go on feeling self-righteous and victimized, so I’m fairly confident that that’s not going to happen.

I have difficulties in reading this… Does not strike me as being all that familiar.  
_Except for being a victim… But that has to do with a self-sought real life situation named marriage._  
Salaam. A

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**Author:** ![Aldebaran](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Aldebaran](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aldebaran)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2004, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-muslim-fundies/248382/103 "2004-06-07T18:44:05Z")

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Marley, forgot to say…

I think we must agree to disagree about this.  
I don’t want to see an anouncement here that you are locked up in a madhouse.  
Not that much because I would feel so guilty, I’m used to this… But I would feel some obligation to pay the bills and I do that already for quite a few.

Salaam. A

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**Author:** ![braintree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@braintree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/braintree)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2004, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-muslim-fundies/248382/104 "2004-06-07T19:00:33Z")

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> [@Aldebaran](#):
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> That is difficult. I have already enough difficulties to recognize what I write as my own.

I have to admit, that’s a pretty funny crack. I hope I don’t live to regret this compliment.

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**Author:** ![gum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bbe5ce/32.png) [@gum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gum)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2004, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-muslim-fundies/248382/105 "2004-06-08T02:51:25Z")

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_side note…:To **Zagadka** and **DMC** : My apologies. I was unnecessary harsh and immature. I’m sorry.…\</side note_

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**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2004, 10:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-muslim-fundies/248382/106 "2004-06-09T10:13:51Z")

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> [@braintree](#):
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> I’m not sure if Afghanistan even has camels, although it is next to Iran which, I believe, does.

You’ve heard of Bactrian camels, haven’t you? Do you know which country Bactria is in? You haven’t studied ancient Central Asian historical geography? I blame the American school systems for this omission. Bactria was one of the conquests of Alexander the Great. Hint: the modern country it’s in is located between Iran and China.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2004, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-muslim-fundies/248382/107 "2004-06-09T13:57:56Z")

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I meant to post the other day to add that my sanity is fine and so is my skull. My sense of hyperbole is also intact.

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