# Regarding SDMB Administration: A Plea For Restraint **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 13, 2005, 9:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-sdmb-administration-a-plea-for-restraint/289858 "2005-02-13T09:22:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Mojo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Mojo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mojo)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2005, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-sdmb-administration-a-plea-for-restraint/289858/101 "2005-02-15T17:23:25Z")
**ZombiesAteMyBrain** , if you use “preview” you can catch coding mistakes before they’re published, thereby freeing up the mods to deal with the “bigger issues” you mention and freeing you up to complain about other things. It’s a win-win! ---
**Author:** ![ZombiesAteMyBrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b4bc9f/32.png) [@ZombiesAteMyBrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZombiesAteMyBrain)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2005, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-sdmb-administration-a-plea-for-restraint/289858/102 "2005-02-15T17:42:17Z")
> [@Mojo](#): > > **ZombiesAteMyBrain** , if you use “preview” you can catch coding mistakes before they’re published, thereby freeing up the mods to deal with the “bigger issues” you mention and freeing you up to complain about other things. It’s a win-win! I didn’t ask for my coding to be fixed - I have never before addressed this mod online, AFAIK, and I certainly didn’t ask to be called a disgusting name because the mod. concerned has so much contempt for my computer ability. Would you be happy if a moderator called you a ‘douchebag’ for making a coding error? I’ve seen tons of coding mistakes on these boards before, and I don’t remember ever seeing this sort of response from a mod. to any other member. Regardless of what the mod. implied in his post, I do not call other people names on this board, and I think I have a right to complain when he insults me for making a mistake that others make all the time with no comment from him. ---
**Author:** ![Syntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Syntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syntropy)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2005, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-sdmb-administration-a-plea-for-restraint/289858/103 "2005-02-15T18:01:04Z")
> [@ZombiesAteMyBrain](#): > > I think these threads should be kept up, not ‘disappeared’ or ‘sanitised’, as a reminder to other mods and admins about what can happen when they break the rules. Maybe we can get Ed to put a big red A next to their names, too… ---
**Author:** ![ZombiesAteMyBrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b4bc9f/32.png) [@ZombiesAteMyBrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZombiesAteMyBrain)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2005, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-sdmb-administration-a-plea-for-restraint/289858/104 "2005-02-15T18:12:08Z")
> [@Maureen](#): > > Maybe we can get Ed to put a big red A next to their names, too… Drama Queen??? ---
**Author:** ![Mehitabel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Mehitabel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mehitabel)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2005, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-sdmb-administration-a-plea-for-restraint/289858/105 "2005-02-15T18:12:28Z")
**ZombiesAteMyBrain** , when somebody gets under your skin and really really annoys you on a message board…it doesn’t end well. **UncleBeer** has explained why he did what he did–you can disagree with it if you want, but there’s really nothing more to say now. As for **Tubadiva** , she stepped over the line but the reason she was up to the line in the first place makes me think that she’s basically a good egg, and the suspension length is appropriate. ---
**Author:** ![KGS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/90ced4/32.png) [@KGS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KGS)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2005, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-sdmb-administration-a-plea-for-restraint/289858/106 "2005-02-15T18:28:38Z")
> [@kidchameleon](#): > > What do you think it warrents? A one year suspension? A lifetime ban for making an error? This is no small error. In case you missed it, you should probably go back and read [Ed Zotti’s official statement](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=302206) again: > [@Ed Zotti](#): > > TubaDiva posted a message in the LJ thread stating that the SDMB/Reader privacy policy did not apply to her postings in other venues. In the same thread she posted (a) a link to the page about the user in the publicly-accessible California sex offender database providing his real name, contact information, and photo; and **(b) an allegation about the user related to his sex offender status.** [bolding mine] If it were limited to (a), I’d agree that a 30-day suspension is sufficient, as the party in question virtually revealed this information himself (real name in email address = DUMB DUMB DUMB!) It’s the (b) matter that’s most potentially damaging, and it’s small wonder that the staff is trying to downplay it. (cf. Dex’s “2%” comment, etc.) In fact, I wouldn’t worry so much about TD’s status; this could easily turn into a permanent banning for EVERYONE. ---
**Author:** ![KGS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/90ced4/32.png) [@KGS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KGS)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2005, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-sdmb-administration-a-plea-for-restraint/289858/107 "2005-02-15T18:36:09Z")
> [@Mehitabel](#): > > As for **Tubadiva** , she stepped over the line but the reason she was up to the line in the first place makes me think that she’s basically a good egg, and the suspension length is appropriate. You see, that’s what makes this debate so interesting. It’s easy for someone to look at the details and assume that TD was acting in good faith. In fact, I agree that she _did_ act in good faith, or at least she believed she was. She just went the wrong way about it. BIG time. ---
**Author:** ![ZombiesAteMyBrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b4bc9f/32.png) [@ZombiesAteMyBrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZombiesAteMyBrain)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2005, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-sdmb-administration-a-plea-for-restraint/289858/108 "2005-02-15T18:36:52Z")
> [@Mehitabel](#): > > **ZombiesAteMyBrain** , when somebody gets under your skin and really really annoys you on a message board…it doesn’t end well. **UncleBeer** has explained why he did what he did–you can disagree with it if you want, but there’s really nothing more to say now. Keep up, Mehitabel, it wasn’t UncleBeer that insulted me - and the insult was totally uncalled for - I made a coding mistake. Also, after your behavior with Aldebaran when he ‘got under your skin’ , surely you’re the last person to lecture me on correct MB etiquette. > [@](#): > > As for **Tubadiva** , she stepped over the line but the reason she was up to the line in the first place makes me think that she’s basically a good egg, and the suspension length is appropriate. Many people here, including myself, do not agree with you on this. ---
**Author:** ![Mojo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Mojo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mojo)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2005, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-sdmb-administration-a-plea-for-restraint/289858/109 "2005-02-15T18:37:29Z")
**ZombiesAteMyBrain** , if you’re so offended by “disgusting names” I suggest you not post in the Pit. I don’t care if you didn’t ask **Ike** to clean up your post or not- everyone else has to put up with your slop since you can’t be bothered to preview. ---
**Author:** ![ZombiesAteMyBrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b4bc9f/32.png) [@ZombiesAteMyBrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZombiesAteMyBrain)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2005, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-sdmb-administration-a-plea-for-restraint/289858/110 "2005-02-15T18:46:59Z")
Who are you to tell me where I should or should not post - The Coding Police, perhaps? The insult was totally gratuitous - I said nothing about the mod in question - but that obviously doesn’t matter to you - or him, for that matter. If you don’t want to read my ‘slop’ I suggest you use the ‘ignore’ facility - or just don’t read any of my posts which might offend you with their awfully offensive poor coding. ---
**Author:** ![Syntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Syntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syntropy)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2005, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-sdmb-administration-a-plea-for-restraint/289858/111 "2005-02-15T18:57:23Z")
> [@ZombiesAteMyBrain](#): > > Drama Queen??? Is pretty much what I’m saying, yes. It’s been well over a week now since the _Unfortunate Incident_™. Ordinarily, the longest I’m able to sustain quivering righteous indignation is about an hour and a half. After that, I’m pretty much exhausted. YMObviouslyV. Look, I’m usually first in line when it comes to bitching about the mods as many of them can no doubt tell you. But I think people are just a wee caught up in the drama, which can happen. I forget who said it (my apologies), but yes. It is time for cooler heads to prevail. You’re taking this far too seriously. Take a deep breath. Also? This is the Pit. People insult people here. On a regular basis, in case you’ve missed the other threads. You probably won’t get the apology you feel you’re owed. You insulted **Ike** right back. Now let’s move right along shall we? I’m sure the conflagration you’re calling for will eventually happen. It may not be the subject of your choosing, but someone usually ends up frying for one reason or another if you wait around long enough. Will that satisfy your blood lust? ---
**Author:** ![ZombiesAteMyBrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b4bc9f/32.png) [@ZombiesAteMyBrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZombiesAteMyBrain)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2005, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-sdmb-administration-a-plea-for-restraint/289858/112 "2005-02-15T19:16:36Z")
> [@Maureen](#): > > You insulted **Ike** right back. No way!! Go back and read the post - why doncha? I quoted his **fantasy** of what I was thinking to tell him that he was wrong about it. Why shouldn’t mods have to apologise, even in the pit, when they throw a gratuitous insult at a member? Or are they so lofty that they are above the common decencies that we mere mortals expect? ---
**Author:** ![Mojo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Mojo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mojo)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2005, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-sdmb-administration-a-plea-for-restraint/289858/113 "2005-02-15T19:17:17Z")
> [@ZombiesAteMyBrain](#): > > Who are you to tell me where I should or should not post - The Coding Police, perhaps? > > The insult was totally gratuitous - I said nothing about the mod in question - but that obviously doesn’t matter to you - or him, for that matter. > > If you don’t want to read my ‘slop’ I suggest you use the ‘ignore’ facility - or just don’t read any of my posts which might offend you with their awfully offensive poor coding. Jesus, you’re a douchebag. My points were a) if you don’t like insults then you’re in the wrong forum, and b) Preview prevents slop from getting posted in the first place. You can post wherever the fuck you want but don’t expect anyone to care if you get insulted in the Pit because **THAT’S WHAT HAPPENS IN THE PIT**. Is that extra mouse-click to preview that big of a hassle for you, you stupid fucking bint? ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2005, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-sdmb-administration-a-plea-for-restraint/289858/114 "2005-02-15T19:26:34Z")
God dammit, will you people stop calling me **UncleBeer**? There are _some_ limits, even in the Pit. ---
**Author:** ![ZombiesAteMyBrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b4bc9f/32.png) [@ZombiesAteMyBrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZombiesAteMyBrain)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2005, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-sdmb-administration-a-plea-for-restraint/289858/115 "2005-02-15T19:27:02Z")
> [@Mojo](#): > > Jesus, you’re a douchebag. My points were a) if you don’t like insults then you’re in the wrong forum, and b) Preview prevents slop from getting posted in the first place. You can post wherever the fuck you want but don’t expect anyone to care if you get insulted in the Pit because **THAT’S WHAT HAPPENS IN THE PIT**. Is that extra mouse-click to preview that big of a hassle for you, you stupid fucking bint? Charming, I’m sure!! Your mother must be very proud. As I’ve alreaqdy pointed out, I’m disabled. I can only use one hand properly to operate the computer - I do my best - but Jeez - I made one fucking coding error!!! Even before I replied to Ike, other people had noted that his wording was not appropriate. ---
**Author:** ![Ed\_Zotti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/fbc32d/32.png) [@Ed\_Zotti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ed_Zotti)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2005, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-sdmb-administration-a-plea-for-restraint/289858/116 "2005-02-15T19:28:46Z")
All right, kids, let’s chill here, OK? Also, I see we’re beginning to stray into a discussion of the he-said-she-said details of this incident, which I have said repeatedly I don’t want to happen. If the trend continues, I will close and hide this thread too. ---
**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2005, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-sdmb-administration-a-plea-for-restraint/289858/117 "2005-02-15T19:35:07Z")
Well, shoot. **aruvqan** had a post here that I was attempting to reply to, but I punched the wrong damn button and obliterated his/her post and replaced it with mine. That’s why I don’t do a lot of moderating around here. Sorry about that, chum, didn’t mean anything by it. **-Ed Zotti** ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2005, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-sdmb-administration-a-plea-for-restraint/289858/118 "2005-02-15T19:43:40Z")
> [@KGS](#): > > (real name in email address = DUMB DUMB DUMB!) Hey! MY real name is in my email address! Does that make ME…yeah, I suppose it does. But it leaves it to you to wade through the soap operas and people with the same name but more interesting lives to finally learn that the only place I’m mentioned on the web is on a site for antique computers. Oh, and in the phone directory since my number apparently is no longer unlisted. Were I less boring all that might be different since I’m not THAT dumb. ---
**Author:** ![Mehitabel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Mehitabel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mehitabel)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2005, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-sdmb-administration-a-plea-for-restraint/289858/119 "2005-02-15T20:08:15Z")
My sincere apologies for mixing up **UncleBeer** and **Ukeleke Ike**. It’s even worse since I’ve had the pleasure of meeting the former gentleman. Sorry, **Ed**. That will be my only and last comment on the incident. ---
**Author:** ![tesseract](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bb73d2/32.png) [@tesseract](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tesseract)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2005, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-sdmb-administration-a-plea-for-restraint/289858/120 "2005-02-15T20:41:30Z")
I hope it’s permissible to post that I feel for **ZombiesAteMyBrain** – I thought the douchebag comment seemed unwarranted and must refer to a private joke or something. Upon finding out that it wasn’t, it seemed harsh. And reactions to her reaction seemed harsh, too. So anyway, **ZombiesAteMyBrain** , I’m sorry he called you that, even if this is the Pit. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-sdmb-administration-a-plea-for-restraint/289858.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-sdmb-administration-a-plea-for-restraint/289858.md?page=7)