# Regarding the suspension of Der Trihs **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 29, 2015, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-the-suspension-of-der-trihs/711216 "2015-01-29T11:31:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![FuriousGeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecae2f/32.png) [@FuriousGeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FuriousGeorge)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2015, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-the-suspension-of-der-trihs/711216/21 "2015-01-29T14:48:21Z")
This dude has had this coming for years… about fucking time. The objection seems to be from many, 'Well, it’s only libertarians, right wingers, and the religious so whatever, fuck 'em, they got it coming." Some of you are real fucking morons. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_fun_ball/32/17664_2.png) [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Fun_Ball)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2015, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-the-suspension-of-der-trihs/711216/22 "2015-01-29T14:54:21Z")
Wow, I would like to know what in those posts that Der Trihs has made over the last 3 years warrants a suspension. He was just expressing an opinion, a cynical and stupid opinion maybe, but just an opinion. I did not see him insulting any other poster and I don’t believe he was even trolling. His rants are always clearly targeted and have evidence, they only require you look at the world through his twisted, angry, red-colored glasses. I think this suspension is stupid; their are many more odious posters, though few with views as extreme, here at the dope. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2015, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-the-suspension-of-der-trihs/711216/23 "2015-01-29T14:55:15Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > In the suspension announcement, several links were provided as evidence. I read every one, and don’t see anything but a particular knack for brutality in being honest. I rarely disagree with him, and I think most of the objection is that right wingers don’t like to admit to their own motivations that Der Trihs pretty much nails dead on. Yeah, it’s a wonder they won’t just admit that all of them are driven solely by a nefarious desire to enslave and torture all women and a satanic bloodlust to exterminate every man, woman and child on Earth who isn’t a white Christian Republican. Because it’s clearly that simple. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2015, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-the-suspension-of-der-trihs/711216/24 "2015-01-29T15:00:15Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Yeah, it’s a wonder they won’t just admit that all of them are driven solely by a nefarious desire to enslave and torture all women and a satanic bloodlust to exterminate every man, woman and child on Earth who isn’t a white Christian Republican. Because it’s clearly that simple. Well, when you put it that way…it sounds pretty accurate. Except I don’t think **Der Trihs** believes in Satan. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_fun_ball/32/17664_2.png) [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Fun_Ball)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2015, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-the-suspension-of-der-trihs/711216/25 "2015-01-29T15:00:18Z")
> [@FuriousGeorge](#): > > This dude has had this coming for years… about fucking time. The objection seems to be from many, 'Well, it’s only libertarians, right wingers, and the religious so whatever, fuck 'em, they got it coming." Some of you are real fucking morons. Which of the posts linked to do you think warrants the suspension. His screed is pretty extreme, but it’s not like he is calling any board member fucking morons or anything. He thinks conservatives hate women, minorities, and poor people and he states that point clearly, so what? Many conservatives here think liberals are unfailingly moronic and also want to control every bodies life in the smallest degree and the say so over and over and over again. Should we suspend them too because liberals find their opinions equally offensive? Hell, let’s suspend Clothahump; as far as I can tell he just posts little screeds like Der Trihs and presents even less evidence. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2015, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-the-suspension-of-der-trihs/711216/26 "2015-01-29T15:01:23Z")
Red Shirt IMO has the same problem some previous long term problematic posters have. He often dances right up to the line of “don’t be a jerk” So, technically speaking he rarely breaks the rules. But he does it so often he manages to have a major and negative impact on discussions that a 100 other random Joe’s (that near the line due to a bad day or momentary slip) added together would not have. And like other posters that are good at dancing the line, if he gets banned it will technically be for rules violations that aren’t the ones he’s famous for dancing up to. Like Al Capon and tax evasion. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2015, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-the-suspension-of-der-trihs/711216/27 "2015-01-29T15:01:49Z")
Well, here’s what got him the warning in that last post: “Of course not; he’s [**Bricker**] a right winger, and will therefore support anything that hurts ordinary people and oppose anything that helps them.” If you don’t see that as an insult to **Bricker** , then I don’t know what to say. > [@HFB](#): > > Which of the posts linked to do you think warrants the suspension. No one gets suspended for a particular past. It’s the accumulated _oeuvre_ that counts. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2015, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-the-suspension-of-der-trihs/711216/28 "2015-01-29T15:05:29Z")
Another one to say that this suspension seems odd; the linked incidents seem to have a few Mod notes attached to them if one reads down far enough, but I didn’t see any outright warnings listed although he’s received at least one in the past year or so. I could maybe see a suspension if he was outright defying attempts at moderation, but I didn’t really see any of that in the linked bits. From a personal standpoint, I find tiresome **DT** ’s incessant and ridiculously simplistic editorializing about the supposed evil motives of people he doesn’t like (and that’s quite a bunch, it seems), and don’t see that it adds any value to the content here. On the other hand, after one has seen a few of his posts one has seen them all, and knows exactly what one is going to get. For me his input has just become background noise and I’ve never felt like my whole Straight Dope experience was being ruined because of it. ETA: OK, the statement linked by **John Mace** is more than a bit over the top. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2015, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-the-suspension-of-der-trihs/711216/29 "2015-01-29T15:08:00Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Another one to say that this suspension seems odd; the linked incidents seem to have a few Mod notes attached to them if one reads down far enough, but I didn’t see any outright warnings From the very first [Link](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18085650&postcount=80): > [@](#): > > That’s enough, Der Trihs. I’m giving you a warning for insults, here… ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2015, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-the-suspension-of-der-trihs/711216/30 "2015-01-29T15:08:32Z")
He also got a recent warning for [threadshitting](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16688640&postcount=58). ETA: ugh, never mind, that was September _2013_. I can read dates, I promise. Really. … … ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2015, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-the-suspension-of-der-trihs/711216/31 "2015-01-29T15:18:17Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > From the very first [Link](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18085650&postcount=80): The first link showed only a single post. I had to pull up the whole thread to see the warning. But I stand corrected. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2015, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-the-suspension-of-der-trihs/711216/32 "2015-01-29T15:22:05Z")
Suspension is an opportunity to reflect, learn and hopefully develop proper etiquette, manners and all that other horseshit necessary to fully understand the multitude of rules, rule application and rule interpretation per forum, necessary to comprehend the “don’t be a jerk” rule. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2015, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-the-suspension-of-der-trihs/711216/33 "2015-01-29T15:28:20Z")
So, he was suspended for his “body of work”. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2015, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-the-suspension-of-der-trihs/711216/34 "2015-01-29T15:36:56Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > Yeah,the only time I really disagree with him is on the subject of women (I think he has some strange ideas there) but if we are going to just suspend people for having disagreeable opinions, I’ve got a list and he’s not even in the top 100. Your shit list has more than a hundred? ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2015, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-the-suspension-of-der-trihs/711216/35 "2015-01-29T15:38:31Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > From a personal standpoint, I find tiresome **DT** ’s incessant and ridiculously simplistic editorializing about the supposed evil motives of people he doesn’t like (and that’s quite a bunch, it seems), and don’t see that it adds any value to the content here. _On the other hand, after one has seen a few of his posts one has seen them all, and knows exactly what one is going to get. For me his input has just become background noise and I’ve never felt like my whole Straight Dope experience was being ruined because of it._ That bit I italicized was precisely the reason given that Der T. never got suspended for hundreds of other posts that either broke the rules or slid riiiiiiiiiiight up to the line. Because (and I quote): > [@tomndebb](#): > > [Typically, Der Trihs fails to actually hijack threads. Most posters read his stuff, see the boilerplate condemnations rooted in a set of inflexible assertions, see the byline “Der Trihs,” shrug their shoulders, and move on. > > As such, his rants are not really disruptive to the board. A newer poster throwing a misplaced comparison into a thread is much more likely to invite correction from a larger number of posters, (with counterclaims by still other posters), leading to trainwrecks. (This is what happened with lekatt, who could have been a harmless drive-by had most posters simply ignored his sillier claims.)]([http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=10656767#post10656767](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=10656767#post10656767)) and another cite: > [@Tomndebb](#): > > [Regarding your other complaint: that poster does not actually cause disruption in Great Debates. He posts an opinion, (the same boring opinion over and over with a slightly different set of victims for his bile), and everyone knows that he is simply posting his unsupported rant and they ignore him.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11281136&postcount=7) Those are just two of many times where it was explicitly stated that DT gets special treatment just because most posters just roll their eyes and move along rather than objecting or arguing with his idiotic opinions. The problem with that, of course, is that gives Der T. a free pass that nobody else got. So, A) That’s a GD mod’s longstanding rule (he’s repeated it several times) about why Der Trihs gets a pass on insults: because people ignored them. :rolleyes: B) This suspension really goes to show that the new blood on the board really is trying to make positive changes. The days of ‘newbies get warned for insults because they’re disruptive, but Der T. gets a get-out-of-jail-free card, because people ignore him’ rule seems to be over, and good riddance to it. All hail our feared new mod overlords. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2015, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-the-suspension-of-der-trihs/711216/36 "2015-01-29T15:44:30Z")
> [@FuriousGeorge](#): > > The objection seems to be from many, 'Well, it’s only libertarians, right wingers, and the religious so whatever, fuck 'em, they got it coming." This is a steaming pile of horseshit. But I suppose it must be fun seeing only what you choose to see. ---
**Author:** ![FuriousGeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecae2f/32.png) [@FuriousGeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FuriousGeorge)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2015, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-the-suspension-of-der-trihs/711216/37 "2015-01-29T15:50:48Z")
> [@andros](#): > > This is a steaming pile of horseshit. But I suppose it must be fun seeing only what you choose to see. Re-read the thread, Champ, this time for comprehension. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2015, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-the-suspension-of-der-trihs/711216/38 "2015-01-29T16:06:23Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > This suspension really goes to show that the new blood on the board really is trying to make positive changes. I agree with this, very much. Things like this, on the other hand - > [@](#): > > I support a lot of what Der Trihs has to say, maybe not as bluntly as he, but he contributes a great deal IMHO. > [@](#): > > I agree. I’m looking forward to his return. worry me. That otherwise apparently intelligent Dopers can consider that “the other side is motivated entirely by sadism” as adding a lot to the boards is - bothersome. Are you really as malignantly insane as he is, and just hiding it better? Hyperbole is one thing. When you actually mean it, is another. I hope he is better when he returns. I expect he will simply stop posting and not return at all. In either case, the boards will be better and the level of rhetoric marginally less squirrel-foody. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2015, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-the-suspension-of-der-trihs/711216/39 "2015-01-29T16:08:45Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > Like Al Capon and tax evasion. They took his testicles. Isn’t that taxation enough? ---
**Author:** ![ZPG\_Zealot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e47c2d/32.png) [@ZPG\_Zealot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZPG_Zealot)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2015, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-the-suspension-of-der-trihs/711216/40 "2015-01-29T16:14:21Z")
> [@gallows\_fodder](#): > > Wow, who knew the guy had supporters? Sometimes the issue is not that you agree with what the poster has to say, but that you support their right to post. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-the-suspension-of-der-trihs/711216.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-the-suspension-of-der-trihs/711216.md?page=3)