# regarding "Using the name "Straight Dope."" **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 20, 2002, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-using-the-name-straight-dope/133065 "2002-10-20T04:53:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2002, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-using-the-name-straight-dope/133065/21 "2002-10-20T19:12:41Z")
Dantheman wrote: > [@](#): > > RT, although you keep saying you’re not a lawyer, I wonder if maybe you oughta be one anyway. Amen to that. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2002, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-using-the-name-straight-dope/133065/22 "2002-10-20T19:20:04Z")
Dantheman wrote: > [@](#): > > RT, although you keep saying you’re not a lawyer, I wonder if maybe you oughta be one anyway. Amen to that. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2002, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-using-the-name-straight-dope/133065/23 "2002-10-20T19:26:43Z")
Dantheman wrote: > [@](#): > > RT, although you keep saying you’re not a lawyer, I wonder if maybe you oughta be one anyway. Amen to that. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2002, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-using-the-name-straight-dope/133065/24 "2002-10-20T19:36:54Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Gazelle from Hell \* > \*\*Minor hijack. > > That other board scares the crap out of me. Looking at their forum list was like looking at a reverse image of the SDMB. We’re through the looking glass, Alice. \*\* Here here. I felt really freaked out looking through that board. Not just disgusted, or pissed off-I mean, I was really SCARED. The poster wasn’t banned for his behavior outside of the SDMB-he was banned because he represented himself as speaking for the SDMB, when in fact, he should not have done so. ---
**Author:** ![Fang](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/96bed5/32.png) [@Fang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fang)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2002, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-using-the-name-straight-dope/133065/25 "2002-10-20T19:39:16Z")
So you agree then, **Lib**? ---
**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2002, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-using-the-name-straight-dope/133065/26 "2002-10-20T22:15:39Z")
OK just about everyone has technically justified the Mods banning someone for any reason but not morally. And another thing ‘Justifiable’ and ‘possible’ mean two different things, most of the mod’s defenders seem to think they mean the same thing. Just because the mods can do something doesn’t mean it is justified. And finally, it was just an opinion as I mentioned. It was not meant to be a reprimand, just an expression of my dislike of the almost fascist nature of the ability to ban someone for any reason. ---
**Author:** ![ElwoodCuse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/edb3f5/32.png) [@ElwoodCuse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElwoodCuse)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2002, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-using-the-name-straight-dope/133065/27 "2002-10-20T22:26:56Z")
OK, I can totally understand the reasoning of trying to prevent people from starting a board war. But does this mean I shouldn’t post in, say, a Fark thread “Oh cool, I just read about this on the Straight Dope…” Because I know a bunch of people that post on both boards and occaisionally talk about both boards, especially when they post one of Cecil’s columns. ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2002, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-using-the-name-straight-dope/133065/28 "2002-10-21T00:25:56Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Lobsang \* > \*\*OK just about everyone has technically justified the Mods banning someone for any reason but not morally. > > And another thing ‘Justifiable’ and ‘possible’ mean two different things, most of the mod’s defenders seem to think they mean the same thing. Just because the mods can do something doesn’t mean it is justified. > > And finally, it was just an opinion as I mentioned. It was not meant to be a reprimand, just an expression of my dislike of the almost fascist nature of the ability to ban someone for any reason. \*\* Let me ask _you_ a couple of questions: 1. Who owns this Board? 2. Who are the employees of the owner of this Board? 3. How much did the Members pay for this Board? 4. Are the Members under duress to post here? 5. If they don’t own this Board, and aren’t an employee, and don’t pay for it, and can leave at any time, how does this Board become “fascist” by choosing to do whatever they want to do? ---
**Author:** ![Bandanaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3ab097/32.png) [@Bandanaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bandanaman)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2002, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-using-the-name-straight-dope/133065/29 "2002-10-21T00:37:30Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by DarkMika \* > [These people are mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, but they’re crazy. How can normal people be so _wrong??_ \*\* So are they crazy, or normal? ---
**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2002, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-using-the-name-straight-dope/133065/30 "2002-10-21T01:34:38Z")
Now don’t be pedantic **Anthracite** I said almost fascist. I was refering to the attitude in this situation, not the mods whole personality. (and I regret using as harsh a word anyway) I applaud the mods for keeping this free board working. I am not against them. I just expressed an opinion. Doing something without pay doesn’t make a person immune to criticism. I don’t get paid to post here, but people can still speak out when they think I have done something wrong. I don’t want to get drawn into an argument. ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2002, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-using-the-name-straight-dope/133065/31 "2002-10-21T03:34:48Z")
Fair enough. ---
**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2002, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-using-the-name-straight-dope/133065/32 "2002-10-21T03:40:45Z")
Dear Fascist Bully-Boy… [Don’t think I’ve seen a thread where I got three amens…;)] ---
**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2002, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-using-the-name-straight-dope/133065/33 "2002-10-21T03:48:54Z")
Dear Fascist Bully-Boy… [Don’t think I’ve seen a thread where I got three amens…;)] ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2002, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-using-the-name-straight-dope/133065/34 "2002-10-21T05:14:17Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Lobsang \* > \*\* just an expression of my dislike of the almost fascist nature of the ability to ban someone for any reason. \*\* Not to mention the irony of using the term "fascist"in discussing this particular situation. ---
**Author:** ![Spit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/76d3ee/32.png) [@Spit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spit)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2002, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-using-the-name-straight-dope/133065/35 "2002-10-21T06:40:15Z")
> [@](#): > > The poster wasn’t banned for his behavior outside of the SDMB-he was banned because he represented himself as speaking for the SDMB, when in fact, he should not have done so. So just by posting at [anyboard.com](http://anyboard.com) that I am also a poster with the SDMB would be enough to get me banned? Or is it just for this particular case? (Where **Tuba** specifically said not to continue the argument over there) ---
**Author:** ![Spit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/76d3ee/32.png) [@Spit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spit)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2002, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-using-the-name-straight-dope/133065/36 "2002-10-21T06:44:15Z")
To clarify: **Lucki** says ( At SF) that he is “stepping up” as a straight doper, followed by “I am in no way here as a representative of that board”. So by just his mentioning that he is also a member here got him canned? ---
**Author:** ![Eva\_Luna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e495f1/32.png) [@Eva\_Luna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eva_Luna)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2002, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-using-the-name-straight-dope/133065/37 "2002-10-21T18:16:58Z")
Yeah, if something this controversial came to my attention by means of a thread here, I think it would be less than forthright to go over to its source and participate without acknowledging how it came to my attention. It’s not like I go websurfing in search of WN’s. So is there any way we can both be fully honest and not piss off the mods here? Or have they decided any mention of the SDMB “over there” is asking for trouble? (Not that I’m planning anything of the sort; as a Jewish feminist with a big mouth and left-wing leanings, I think I’d last about 5 minutes over there.) ---
**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2002, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-using-the-name-straight-dope/133065/38 "2002-10-21T18:49:35Z")
Use some common sense when you use the name of the Straight Dope Message Board at another board. Saying “I post at the SDMB is OK” but saying “I am a representative of the SDMB and our considered opinion is…” is not OK. When an administrator posts an announcement saying “don’t go over to another message board and start fights with them, several people of that other message board are spamming the SDMB by registering multiple sock puppet names” don’t go over to that message board saying “I come here from the SDMB to argue with you.” If someone thinks they have been unjustly been banned from the SDMB then that someone can e-mail a moderator/administrator to plead their case and s/he may very well be reinstated. ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2002, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-using-the-name-straight-dope/133065/39 "2002-10-21T19:01:28Z")
I’ve linked at the Pizza Parlor to threads over here, and the reverse, as appropriate to fostering the missions of both boards. (In _my_ mind, at least, combatting ignorance and spreading Christianity are not incommensurate! :)) I’ve never sought to represent myself as anything other than a poster here, and rarely in an official capacity over there – and I don’t think I’ve ever brought my official capacity over there to this board and posted something _as a staff member_ representing that board. (Exception might be **Lib** ’s Pit rant on the board’s taste in what it considers to be restricted material, where I simply emphasized, for the information of anyone else interested, since **Lib** already knew it, that the issue he had raised was being looked at by staff.) I’m assuming that that sort of cross-referencing… “Over on the Straight Dope, somebody said that…” is perfectly acceptable; what’s being frowned on is polemic posting that could result in an interboard war. **Lynn** or **Tuba** , would you please confirm or correct that? ---
**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2002, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-using-the-name-straight-dope/133065/40 "2002-10-21T19:14:56Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Polycarp \* > I’m assuming that that sort of cross-referencing… “Over on the Straight Dope, somebody said that…” is perfectly acceptable; what’s being frowned on is polemic posting that could result in an interboard war. I think that’s what I just said, but let me repeat it: yes, mentioning the Straight Dope is OK, but don’t pretend that you speak for the administration or the other members. And don’t say something like “you guys at MB X think you’re so smart, but if you came over to the SDMB you’d get your butts kicked”, even if it’s true. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-using-the-name-straight-dope/133065.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-using-the-name-straight-dope/133065.md?page=3)