# Regarding Weirddave being suspended.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-weirddave-being-suspended/350220>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 28, 2006, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-weirddave-being-suspended/350220 "2006-03-28T06:35:24Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2006, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-weirddave-being-suspended/350220/1 "2006-03-28T06:35:24Z")

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First, I have to say that I don’t like **Weirdave** , but I do believe in being fair.

Among the deserved reasons for his suspension:

> **[Weirddave suspended.](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=364787)**
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> For one month starting now. Personal insults: http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?postid=2088194#post2088194 Misleading thread name / trolling: Being off topic/off forum and responding to warning with insults in IMHO: ...

This one, though, deserves a little bit more explanation IMHO:

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> Misleading thread name / trolling:  
> [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=253147](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=253147)

Yes, he was misleading, but IMO it was clearly a joke, and even the offended ones were getting on the joke, on top of that he put a smilie in the OP, reading it again I do wonder were the trolling accusation came from when in his reply he also had his tongue firmly in cheek. Can you give \*\*Weirddave \*\* a break here?

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**Author:** ![Silver\_Fire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@Silver\_Fire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Fire)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2006, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-weirddave-being-suspended/350220/2 "2006-03-28T06:56:04Z")

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Yeah. Nevermind the fact that the thread is almost two years old. :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2006, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-weirddave-being-suspended/350220/3 "2006-03-28T07:03:23Z")

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Meh. It’s not like they’re hinging their entire case against him on that one thread. It’s just one link in a long string of warnings and repeated bad behavior, and a minor one at that. If that was the sole reason for the suspension, I’d be right there with you.

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**Author:** ![Askia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@Askia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askia)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2006, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-weirddave-being-suspended/350220/4 "2006-03-28T07:11:09Z")

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**Weirddave** and I have had a couple of memorable debates. I’d hate to lose the guy as a sparring partner.

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**Author:** ![Silver\_Fire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@Silver\_Fire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Fire)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2006, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-weirddave-being-suspended/350220/5 "2006-03-28T07:13:03Z")

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I was going to say something about how most of the rest of the cites are pretty old, too, but there’s probably enough recent activity to justify a suspension anyway. I don’t actually know though, because I am not wading through those stupid guild memorial threads.

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**Author:** ![dnooman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/839c29/32.png) [@dnooman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dnooman)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2006, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-weirddave-being-suspended/350220/6 "2006-03-28T07:28:40Z")

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When I read the title of this thread I thought “Isn’t that the guy that got really worked up about the WoW funereal thread?”

Yep.

A couple of the examples of “suspendable actions” [sub] my term[/sub] are questionable IMHO. Petty things that barely deserve a warning, or are questionable at best, are only brought out when one needs to bolster one’s case with sheer volume.

I don’t care what happens to **Weirddave** , I don’t know him. Not that I want to see him gone of course.

What’s troubling, is that the SDMB seems to become more and more of a “regular friendly” message board. The mods seem to be less than objective when certain issues are brought up (yes I’m referring to the whole **Wally** / **CarnalK** nonsense) but they do a good job at keeping assholes and spammers out of the fora.

I need a separate rant. Off I go.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2006, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-weirddave-being-suspended/350220/7 "2006-03-28T07:34:56Z")

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> [@Silver Fire](#):
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> I was going to say something about how most of the rest of the cites are pretty old, too, but there’s probably enough recent activity to justify a suspension anyway. I don’t actually know though, because I am not wading through those stupid guild memorial threads.

We noticed that too. It was not merely the number of warnings, several of which _were_ old, it was that he had three Warnings for direct personal attacks in the last three months, two in the last couple of days. This gives a strong impression of an escalating situation which we felt needed a response.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2006, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-weirddave-being-suspended/350220/8 "2006-03-28T07:42:33Z")

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> [@tomndebb](#):
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> We noticed that too. It was not merely the number of warnings, several of which _were_ old, it was that he had three Warnings for direct personal attacks in the last three months, two in the last couple of days. This gives a strong impression of an escalating situation which we felt needed a response.

Oh, OK, but it still feels like some silly old warnings in the official post are given the same weight as serious ones, and I still wonder where the trolling accusation came from.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2006, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-weirddave-being-suspended/350220/9 "2006-03-28T07:56:11Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> Oh, OK, but it still feels like some silly old warnings in the official post are given the same weight as serious ones, and I still wonder where the trolling accusation came from.

When we post a notice of suspension or banishment, we simply post all the records. The alternative is to post only the recorded warnings that some Mod or Admin feels is “hot,” then get blindsided by some poster who is upset that this Warning was mentioned while that Warning was “hidden.”

Rather than get embroiled in a argument over which Warnings were the “real” ones, we simply post all the Warnings.

To the immediate (if implied) question: No, we did not regard the “misleading thread” warning as a significant infraction when we discussed this suspension.  
As to the “trolling” charge: based on a(n arguable) definition of “trolling” as “seeking to get a rise out of other posters,” the thread qualifies. Since it was not the the thread that either kicked off the discussiuon or swayed the vote regarding suspension, it is probably not going to shed any light on this thread to argue the point, (although you are certainly free to do so).

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**Author:** ![Silver\_Fire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@Silver\_Fire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Fire)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2006, 8:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-weirddave-being-suspended/350220/10 "2006-03-28T08:19:14Z")

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> [@tomndebb](#):
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> [H]e had three Warnings for direct personal attacks in the last three months, two in the last couple of days. This gives a strong impression of an escalating situation which we felt needed a response.

I think that’s reasonable. And your subsequent post answered my next question quite nicely, so I think I’ll bow out now. Thanks for the responses.

GIGO, you can find a bit of reasoning for the trolling accusation [here.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=4799707&postcount=15) Dave should have included the punchline of the joke at the end of the OP.

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**Author:** ![catsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@catsix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catsix)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2006, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-weirddave-being-suspended/350220/11 "2006-03-28T12:06:47Z")

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Too bad he didn’t just advertise a pay porno site in his profile and post like a flaming leftist.

Then he’d be in good standing like **Stoid**.

Course so would **CarnalK**.

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**Author:** ![Ponder\_Stibbons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponder_stibbons/32/343_2.png) [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2006, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-weirddave-being-suspended/350220/12 "2006-03-28T13:37:23Z")

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> [@dnooman](#):
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> … What’s troubling, is that the SDMB seems to become more and more of a “regular friendly” message board. The mods seem to be less than objective when certain issues are brought up (yes I’m referring to the whole **Wally** / **CarnalK** nonsense) but they do a good job at keeping assholes and spammers out of the fora.

While the “Wally” issue has raised a lot of emotion in the past, this [latest thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=364525&page=1&pp=50) on the subject went very calmly and even fairly objectively, as far as I can tell.

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2006, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-weirddave-being-suspended/350220/13 "2006-03-28T14:13:50Z")

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> [@Q.E.D.](#):
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> Meh. It’s not like they’re hinging their entire case against him on that one thread. It’s just one link in a long string of warnings and repeated bad behavior, and a minor one at that. If that was the sole reason for the suspension, I’d be right there with you.

Certainly all of this is further evidence of the [echo] Liberal SDMB Conspiracy[/echo].

You people make me sick!

-Joe

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2006, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-weirddave-being-suspended/350220/14 "2006-03-28T14:37:49Z")

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Please note that I’m referring to the Liberal SDMB Conspiracy. The **Liberal** SDMB Conspiracy is a totally different animal.

-Joe

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**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2006, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-weirddave-being-suspended/350220/15 "2006-03-28T14:48:01Z")

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> [@catsix](#):
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> Too bad he didn’t just advertise a pay porno site in his profile and post like a flaming leftist.

Libuhrals _and_ nekkid people?!? _gasp_  
catsix, we need your support [here](http://www.moralmajority.us/)!

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**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2006, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-weirddave-being-suspended/350220/16 "2006-03-28T14:56:02Z")

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> [@Arnold Winkelried](#):
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> Libuhrals _and_ nekkid people?!? _gasp_  
> catsix, we need your support [here](http://www.moralmajority.us/)!

Damn you Arnold! That link needs a disclaimer or warning. I clicked it. Now I feel dirty.

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**Author:** ![MsRobyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2006, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-weirddave-being-suspended/350220/17 "2006-03-28T15:22:54Z")

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> [@askeptic](#):
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> Damn you Arnold! That link needs a disclaimer or warning. I clicked it. Now I feel dirty.

It’s okay. Just make a donation to the [Southern Poverty Law Center](http://www.splcenter.org/) and all will be well.

Robin

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**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2006, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-weirddave-being-suspended/350220/18 "2006-03-28T15:26:25Z")

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> [@MsRobyn](#):
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> It’s okay. Just make a donation to the [Southern Poverty Law Center](http://www.splcenter.org/) and all will be well.
> 
> Robin

Hey Thanks. I also just dug my ACLU membership card out of my wallet and rubbed it for a few minutes. I feel a little better.

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2006, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-weirddave-being-suspended/350220/19 "2006-03-28T15:29:56Z")

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> [@askeptic](#):
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> Hey Thanks. I also just dug my ACLU membership card out of my wallet and rubbed it for a few minutes. I feel a little better.

I’ve heard that some men name their penis.

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**Author:** ![Amazon\_Floozy\_Goddess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/779978/32.png) [@Amazon\_Floozy\_Goddess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amazon_Floozy_Goddess)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2006, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-weirddave-being-suspended/350220/20 "2006-03-28T15:30:23Z")

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Good. Maybe he can use the time off to work on his anger management issues.

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