# Relations

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/relations/165258>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [March 30, 2003, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/relations/165258 "2003-03-30T19:27:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![KontagiousKaren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ee59a6/32.png) [@KontagiousKaren](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KontagiousKaren)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2003, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/relations/165258/1 "2003-03-30T19:27:07Z")

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Iwas just wondering, what is your parents cousins relation to you? are they great cousins because your parent’s aunts and uncles are your great aunts and uncles? sorry if this is confusing. Please respond.🙂

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**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2003, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/relations/165258/2 "2003-03-30T19:29:34Z")

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They are cousins, once removed, IIRC.

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**Author:** ![KontagiousKaren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ee59a6/32.png) [@KontagiousKaren](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KontagiousKaren)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2003, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/relations/165258/3 "2003-03-30T19:30:20Z")

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once removed? what’s IIRC??

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**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2003, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/relations/165258/4 "2003-03-30T19:32:01Z")

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Also called a second cousin. IIRC means “If I Recall Correctly”.

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**Author:** ![Uncommon\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Uncommon\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncommon_Sense)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2003, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/relations/165258/5 "2003-03-30T19:32:23Z")

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If I Recall Correctly

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**Author:** ![KontagiousKaren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ee59a6/32.png) [@KontagiousKaren](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KontagiousKaren)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2003, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/relations/165258/6 "2003-03-30T19:32:28Z")

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thanks 🙂

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**Author:** ![lel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8797f3/32.png) [@lel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lel)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2003, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/relations/165258/7 "2003-03-30T19:38:37Z")

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Also, here’s some [family relationship charts](http://www.mdwsweb.com/genealogy/relationship.html) available. I haven’t had a chance to look through most of them yet, but there seems to be a good number out there.

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2003, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/relations/165258/8 "2003-03-30T19:49:48Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Q.E.D. \*  
> \*\*Also called a second cousin. \*\*

Sorry, no. The children of two first cousins are second cousins. They share a common great-grandparent pair. First cousins share a common grandparent pair. Third cousins would of course share a common great-great grandparent pair.

The “removed” part indicates a generational difference. Your first cousin’s kid is a first cousin once removed to you. Your first cousin’s grandkid would be a first cousin twice removed to you. **lel** ’s charts spell it out, if you click on the right one.