# Religious Nutjob Nomination Thread....
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-nutjob-nomination-thread/206995
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [October 12, 2003, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-nutjob-nomination-thread/206995 "2003-10-12T15:12:46Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Hamadryad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamadryad)
#### Post date: [October 13, 2003, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-nutjob-nomination-thread/206995/41 "2003-10-13T03:38:45Z")
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> \*Originally posted by Shirley Ujest \*
> \*\*It’s ok. I’ve never started my own trainwreck before. I feel so tingly. \*\*
I mainly find it funny that religion being a factor in nominations in this thread is being argued…WHEN THAT’S THE FREAKIN’ THREAD TITLE.
Sheesh.
In other news…I just can’t get enough Fred Phelps and Jack Chick when it comes to religious nutjobs. I think they both win in a walk.
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### Author:  [@Thylacine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thylacine)
#### Post date: [October 13, 2003, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-nutjob-nomination-thread/206995/42 "2003-10-13T05:25:30Z")
Now I understand **Jersey Diamond** ’s return to the depths of the pit today, she wants a nomination.
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### Author:  [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)
#### Post date: [October 13, 2003, 9:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-nutjob-nomination-thread/206995/43 "2003-10-13T09:26:00Z")
Zoe
Yes, I’m fine, thanks. 🙂
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Guin
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> Not to mention Lib’s nasty little jab at Eve when she was commenting on a hideously tacky crucifix.
There’s so much wrong with that, it’s hard to know where to start. [1] I don’t agree that it was either nasty or a jab. [2] My problem, as I explained and you ignored, was with the phrasing of her title. [3] Eve indeed does, as I said then, have a history of taking nasty jabs at everything religious, including children who pray. And [4] making fun of people’s taste just because you smugly think it’s tacky is tacky.
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### Author:  [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)
#### Post date: [October 13, 2003, 10:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-nutjob-nomination-thread/206995/44 "2003-10-13T10:50:35Z")
Honestly, I don’t see an issue with including athiests that make… interesting demands upon religion in a commentary on religious nutjobs. If they _are_ directly attacking religion, it certainly means they would fall under the general umbrella.
On the other hand, Daniel Dennett, Will Osuna? Lib, your loony detector’s set far, far too low.
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### Author:  [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)
#### Post date: [October 13, 2003, 10:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-nutjob-nomination-thread/206995/45 "2003-10-13T10:55:26Z")
We all have different thresholds, I guess. To me, both side-swiping homosexuals to justify your own flirtation with madness and refusing to show respect for the beliefs of others while proclaiming that your own beliefs are cause for respect — both of these are as looney as it gets.
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### Author:  [@Epimetheus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Epimetheus)
#### Post date: [October 13, 2003, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-nutjob-nomination-thread/206995/46 "2003-10-13T11:55:02Z")
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> ## \*Originally posted by Libertarian \* \*\* quote:
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> ## Originally posted by Lobsang It didn’t look like [this thread is exclusively for bashing people based on their religion] to me.
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> ## Then why did you say this? quote:
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> ## …the other ones seen to lack one specific requirement for this award - they’re not religious.
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> Emphasis mine. \*\*
Hey dumbass, did you happen to see the title of the thread? **Religious Nutjob** nominaiton thread. Being religious is a qualification, and being a nutjob is as well. Both together. Quit being difficult, or learn to read the title of the thread you participate in.
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### Author:  [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)
#### Post date: [October 13, 2003, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-nutjob-nomination-thread/206995/47 "2003-10-13T12:06:14Z")
Epimetheus
Uh huh. I saw it. That’s why I said the thread is walking a tightrope. If it’s dissing stupid people — including stupid atheists — then it’s okay. But if it’s dissing religious people as a whole, then it goes against what Lynn Bodoni recently said:
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> I won’t put up with dissing Christianity as a whole. I WILL, however, allow and possibly gleefully join in while people make fun of radicals of any stripe, up to and including atheism.
You might have been out that day. 🙂
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### Author:  [@Epimetheus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Epimetheus)
#### Post date: [October 13, 2003, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-nutjob-nomination-thread/206995/48 "2003-10-13T12:09:09Z")
Oh, and christianity is the only group that is religious? Notice the title of the thread isn’t Christian Nutjobs…
Religious nutjobs ARE radicals, as Lynn says is quite ok, and that she would gleefully join in on. Or did you not read her quote either?
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### Author:  [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)
#### Post date: [October 13, 2003, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-nutjob-nomination-thread/206995/49 "2003-10-13T12:45:36Z")
Wow. You went to the ElvisL1ves school of logic, I see. 😃 I don’t think you should get your rocks off at the expense of anyone’s genuine faith: Christian, Jew, Muslim, Wiccan, or other. As I read it, neither does Lynn.
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### Author:  [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)
#### Post date: [October 13, 2003, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-nutjob-nomination-thread/206995/50 "2003-10-13T13:02:23Z")
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> \*Originally posted by Libertarian \*
> \*\*Epimetheus
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> Uh huh. I saw it. That’s why I said the thread is walking a tightrope. If it’s dissing stupid people — including stupid atheists — then it’s okay. But if it’s dissing religious people as a whole, then it goes against what Lynn Bodoni recently said:
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> You might have been out that day. 🙂 \*\*
**Lib** , you’re treading dangerously close to dishonesty here.
The thread isn’t dissing stupid people, including stupid atheists.
It’s not dissing religious people as a whole.
How do I know this? Because the thread title is **Religious Nutjobs**.
Are you claiming that stupid atheists are religious nutjobs?
Are you suggesting that maybe religious people as a whole are religious nutjobs?
Unless you’re making either of those claims, it’s bizarre that you aren’t clear on what the thread is doing.
THE THREAD IS DISSING RELIGIOUS PEOPLE WHO ARE NUTJOBS.
You, meanwhile, are persisting in your increasingly obnoxious crusade to derail any thread that mentions any religious person in a less than complimentary light. It is highly rude of you and very self-centered. Stay the hell out of these conversations if they make you uncomfortable.
Hmm…there’s an idea. Long ago, I told you I would restrain my casually blaspheming ways in threads that I saw you participating in – not because I think blasphemy is disrespectful toward people, but because it’s polite to honor people’s harmless requests.
But if you’re going to continue being rude in threads like this, then by the Assfucking Jesus Vibrator Crucifix, you can expect me to return the rudeness. Maybe it’ll make you a little less cocky about popping into threads and derailing them if you know your rudeness will be returned onto you, huh?
Daniel
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### Author:  [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)
#### Post date: [October 13, 2003, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-nutjob-nomination-thread/206995/51 "2003-10-13T13:03:36Z")
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> \*Originally posted by Guinastasia \*
> \*\*Not to mention **Lib** ’s nasty little jab at **Eve** when she was commenting on a hideously tacky crucifix. \*\*
I have always assumed it was a typo when **Lib** referred to me as “he.” As he (she? I have no idea, actually) has never addressed this, I’ve decided to take the high road and not class him with such as Jersey and Joe (who do not even deseve to have their names in boldface).
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### Author:  [@Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helen_s_Eidolon)
#### Post date: [October 13, 2003, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-nutjob-nomination-thread/206995/52 "2003-10-13T13:11:05Z")
Whoa, hey, **Lib** , I thought we understood each other? I thought you got it when I explained this thread to you! What’s still going on?
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### Author:  [@Steve\_Wright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_Wright)
#### Post date: [October 13, 2003, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-nutjob-nomination-thread/206995/53 "2003-10-13T14:25:08Z")
Actually, I have to agree with **Libertarian** to some extent, here.
There are atheists who hold that philosophy as a matter of personal choice, based on their reasoning and their view of the world … and there are atheists who hold that philosophy because the Blazing Light of Ultimate Truth has been beheld by them, personally, and they feel obliged to bring the rest of us out of the Dark Valleys of Superstition. I have no hesitation in classing that latter group as religious. And that group includes subsets of proselytizing atheists, evangelical atheists, doctrinaire and intolerant atheists, and, yes, completely wacked-out and loony atheists too.
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it’s a duck.
If it grabs you by the lapels like a religious loony, sprays spittle in your face while yelling at you like a religious loony, and denounces all opposing viewpoints in tones of hysteria like a religious loony, it’s a religious loony.
I see no reason to discriminate against atheist loonies when making these hypothetical **Lebon** awards … though I worry about the title, inasmuch as it always makes me think of Duran Duran, and I spent quite enough time thinking about Duran Duran back when it was still the Eighties.
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### Author:  [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)
#### Post date: [October 13, 2003, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-nutjob-nomination-thread/206995/54 "2003-10-13T14:32:59Z")
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> \*Originally posted by Steve Wright \*
> \*\*If it grabs you by the lapels like a religious loony, sprays spittle in your face while yelling at you like a religious loony, and denounces all opposing viewpoints in tones of hysteria like a religious loony, it’s a religious loony.
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I agree with you here, even while disagreeing with **Lib** , as he obviously wasn’t using this as his criterion for his obnoxious hijack:
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> Fair enough. I do indeed see the difference you’re explaining, and I’ll leave you alone now. I thought it was important to make the point that people don’t need religion to be nutjobs and — more importantly — not every religious person is a nutjob.
He was trying to establish the mind-bogglingly obvious (and irrelevant) point that people don’t need religion to be nutjobs, and never mentioned the subtler and more salient point that some atheists use their atheism as a hammer in a manner identical to how some religious loons use their religion.
Daniel
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### Author:  [@Steve\_Wright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_Wright)
#### Post date: [October 13, 2003, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-nutjob-nomination-thread/206995/55 "2003-10-13T14:59:49Z")
So, if you partly agree with me, and I partly agree with **Lib** … is it too soon to suggest a group hug?
Steve “Happy Fuzzy Snuggly Thoughts” Wright
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### Author:  [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)
#### Post date: [October 13, 2003, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-nutjob-nomination-thread/206995/56 "2003-10-13T18:57:05Z")
I humbly submit this wackjob:http://adn.com/special/pilgrim/story/4087756p-4105320c.html]Papa Pilgrim
Warning: It is mostly harmless craziness, but very long.
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### Author:  [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)
#### Post date: [October 13, 2003, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-nutjob-nomination-thread/206995/57 "2003-10-13T18:58:53Z")
[Try this again](http://adn.com/special/pilgrim/story/4087756p-4105320c.html)
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### Author:  [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)
#### Post date: [October 13, 2003, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-nutjob-nomination-thread/206995/58 "2003-10-13T19:31:38Z")
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> \*Originally posted by Eve \*
> \*\*I have always assumed it was a typo when **Lib** referred to me as “he.” As he (she? I have no idea, actually) has never addressed this, I’ve decided to take the high road and not class him with such as Jersey and Joe (who do not even deseve to have their names in boldface). \*\*
Eve
Gaudere and others can vouch that I often commit that blunder, so I don’t doubt your claim that I called you “he”. I presume you are a “she” and I meant no offense in that regard, so please accept my apology. My only issue with you has been and remains what I view as your relentless activism against people of faith, whom you never miss an opportunity to ridicule. Just as you might feel a tweak when someone calls you “he”, so do people of faith feel a tweak when they are called nutjobs. It shouldn’t bother me, but in fact it does.
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### Author:  [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)
#### Post date: [October 13, 2003, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-nutjob-nomination-thread/206995/59 "2003-10-13T19:40:20Z")
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> \*Originally posted by Libertarian \*
> \*\*Eve
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> Gaudere and others can vouch that I often commit that blunder, so I don’t doubt your claim that I called you “he”. I presume you are a “she” and I meant no offense in that regard, so please accept my apology. My only issue with you has been and remains what I view as your relentless activism against people of faith, whom you never miss an opportunity to ridicule. Just as you might feel a tweak when someone calls you “he”, so do people of faith feel a tweak when they are called nutjobs. It shouldn’t bother me, but in fact it does. \*\*
Oh, I never thought for a moment you’d meant that intentionally. As far as me and religious folks, I think I’ve been pretty even-handed in only teasing the religious _nutjobs_, not otherwose sane religious people.
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### Author:  [@DaveX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaveX)
#### Post date: [October 13, 2003, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-nutjob-nomination-thread/206995/60 "2003-10-13T20:54:57Z")
Maybe you guys can help me out. There is a guy I would like to nominate… but I can’t remember his name. He used to have a radio program 4 or 5 years ago (he may still have one, but not in my market anymore). He took calls, wrote books, and ranted in general about satanism being rampant in America and Canada. He would tie in UFO’s, Dungeons and Dragons, and heavy metal music at any opportunity. And after just about every station break, he’d be on the air begging for money to fight “the hotbed of satanism in Denver (or Buffalo, or wherever)”…
I think his name was Bob or Robert something, but that’s not much to google off of…
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