# Religious Nutjob Nomination Thread.... **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 12, 2003, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-nutjob-nomination-thread/206995 "2003-10-12T15:12:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2003, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-nutjob-nomination-thread/206995/121 "2003-10-16T11:19:22Z")
Please provide an example of me being a bigot, if you don’t mind. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2003, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-nutjob-nomination-thread/206995/122 "2003-10-16T12:48:31Z")
Again: **gyrate** , do you really feel like **Libertarian** is being honest enough to warrant this debate? He looks to me like he’s in full-blown disingenuity-mode here, determined not to face how foolish he’s acting, and damn honesty. Do you see something in him I don’t? Daniel ---
**Author:** ![TVAA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c57346/32.png) [@TVAA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVAA)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2003, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-nutjob-nomination-thread/206995/123 "2003-10-16T13:06:39Z")
You’re wasting your time, **DanielWithrow**. Arguing with **Lib** is like trying to bring down Olympus Mons with a Jello bulldozer. Treat him like a rational, intelligent being, and he’ll stick around as long as he gets responses. I recommend criticizing him mercilessly – it’s like spreading **Lib** -be-gone all over the forum. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2003, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-nutjob-nomination-thread/206995/124 "2003-10-16T13:15:27Z")
Are you saying that when someone claims that others are accusing him of having a persecution complex, the correct response is to persecute them? That’s too twisted even for me. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2003, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-nutjob-nomination-thread/206995/125 "2003-10-16T13:46:52Z")
What? 😃 Are you saying that someone should start a thread on Black Jewish Lesbian Republican nutjobs? That’s a bunch of circles, and oh, what a hoot! ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2003, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-nutjob-nomination-thread/206995/126 "2003-10-16T13:52:43Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by TVAA \* > \*\*You’re wasting your time, **DanielWithrow**. Arguing with **Lib** is like trying to bring down Olympus Mons with a Jello bulldozer. > > Treat him like a rational, intelligent being, and he’ll stick around as long as he gets responses. I recommend criticizing him mercilessly – it’s like spreading **Lib** -be-gone all over the forum. \*\* Oh, I’m not arguing with Lib at this point; I’m hoping merely to convince other people to ignore him, in the hopes that, once he’s no longer able to satisfy his ego by deceitfully disrupting harmless threads, he’ll quit trying to do so. And Gyrate, I’m not suggesting persecuting him. I’m suggesting giving up on him. As long as he continues to shit in threads, let’s walk around his shit and continue the discussion. If he decides to resume behaving in the rational, respectful manner that we know he’s capable of, we’ll start paying attention to him again. Daniel ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2003, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-nutjob-nomination-thread/206995/127 "2003-10-16T13:57:18Z")
Yes, it is a “bunch of circles”, in that not all blacks are Jewish, not all Jews are lesbians, not all lesbians are Republican, not all Republicans are nutjobs, and so on and so forth. What’s your point? And if you _do_ happen to know of any black, Jewish, lesbian, Republican nutjobs, please do post a link or start a new thread. But please answer the question first. ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2003, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-nutjob-nomination-thread/206995/128 "2003-10-16T14:04:28Z")
**Libertarian** , an honest question. Are you OK? I mean, is there anything that explains your rather… strange… posts as of late? ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2003, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-nutjob-nomination-thread/206995/129 "2003-10-16T18:03:50Z")
Coldie I’m fine. I really don’t know what you mean. I’ve posted on a wide variety of topics in nearly every forum, except for Debates (not counting an accidental post there), in the last several days. * * * Gyrate The question? 😃 [Joe Pesci voice] You were serious about dat? [/Joe Pesci voice] It has been my experience over the many years that questions beginning with “Are you saying…?” are leading, complex, and irrelevant. What I am saying, I have said. Have you suddenly acquired some new mechanism of understanding which might make meaningful yet another attempt to communicate with you? ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2003, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-nutjob-nomination-thread/206995/130 "2003-10-16T18:16:51Z")
What I mean is that some of your latest pit posts are downright bizarre, IMHO. F’rinstance, the point your trying to make in this thread, and the way you seem to cling on to it, despite pretty much everybody else telling you you’re way off base. It seems like you’re looking for offense, or something to lash out at. Just my observation - if you say all’s well, then I’ll take your word for it. ---
**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2003, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-nutjob-nomination-thread/206995/131 "2003-10-16T18:20:38Z")
A new contender: Gen. William “Jerry” Boykin, deputy undersecretary of defense, in charge of the hunt for high-value terrorist targets including bin Laden and Saddam. > [@](#): > > “Well, is he [bin Laden] the enemy? Next slide. Or is this man [Saddam] the enemy? The enemy is none of these people I have showed you here. The enemy is a spiritual enemy. He’s called the principality of darkness. The enemy is a guy called Satan.” > Why are terrorists out to destroy the United States? Boykin said: “They’re after us because we’re a Christian nation.” ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2003, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-nutjob-nomination-thread/206995/132 "2003-10-16T18:35:00Z")
Oh, **Homebrew** , you’re SHITTING me. This guy is the one our country is relying on to catch bin Laden? Fear for us all. Daniel ---
**Author:** ![ruadh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d2c977/32.png) [@ruadh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ruadh)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2003, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-nutjob-nomination-thread/206995/133 "2003-10-16T18:42:02Z")
I put in my vote for Dana Rosemary Scallon (MEP for Connacht-Ulster, Ireland), according to whom the European Union will be in serious danger if its constitution doesn’t make reference to God and to Europe’s “Christian heritage”. No kidding, she actually did say the EU itself will be under threat. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2003, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-nutjob-nomination-thread/206995/134 "2003-10-16T18:45:17Z")
Where is that quote from, **Homebrew**? On the website for [Americans United for the Separation of Church and State](http://www.au.org/press/pr030407.htm), I find plenty of scary information about Boykin and his misuse of military facilities to promote evangelical Christianity (what a great idea, to conflate militant Christianity with the army occupying Iraq!), including: > [@](#): > > The flier quotes Boykin as saying about the current war on terrorism, “Bin Laden is not the enemy. No mortal is the enemy, It’s the enemy you can’t see. It’s a war against the forces of darkness. The battle won’t be won with guns. It will be won on our knees.” Is there a more explicit quote somewhere? Googling excerpts of your quote got me nowhere. Daniel ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2003, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-nutjob-nomination-thread/206995/135 "2003-10-16T18:53:57Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by ruadh \* > \*\*I put in my vote for Dana Rosemary Scallon (MEP for Connacht-Ulster, Ireland), according to whom the European Union will be in serious danger if its constitution doesn’t make reference to God and to Europe’s “Christian heritage”. > > No kidding, she actually did say the EU itself will be under threat. \*\* No offense, **ruadh** , but that’s amateur stuff when it comes to religious nutjobbery. Maybe Europeans need some minor league of their own, in which they can hope to compete. Why, in North Carolina, I doubt you could appear on the Republican ticket for city council if you weren’t willing to make a similar statement about Christian heritage. Our religious nutjobs are professional league, baby. Daniel ---
**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2003, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-nutjob-nomination-thread/206995/136 "2003-10-16T18:58:20Z")
Sorry, I meant to provide a [link](http://stacks.msnbc.com/news/980764.asp?0cv=cb10) ---
**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2003, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-nutjob-nomination-thread/206995/137 "2003-10-16T19:04:22Z")
The Religious Nutjob Nomination Thread is back on track. Thank you for your patience during the derailment. ---
**Author:** ![ruadh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d2c977/32.png) [@ruadh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ruadh)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2003, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-nutjob-nomination-thread/206995/138 "2003-10-16T19:07:30Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by DanielWithrow \* > \*\*No offense, **ruadh** , but that’s amateur stuff when it comes to religious nutjobbery. Maybe Europeans need some minor league of their own, in which they can hope to compete. > > Why, in North Carolina, I doubt you could appear on the Republican ticket for city council if you weren’t willing to make a similar statement about Christian heritage.\*\* Yes, I’m sure she would seem perfectly normal if she were to emigrate to America (ah, if only). In Ireland, however, such views definitely qualify her for the “nutjob” category. I should say in the _south_ of Ireland, actually. Plenty of weird-even-by-American-standards folks up north (towns where playground gates are locked on Sundays, etc). ---
**Author:** ![SkipMagic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skipmagic/32/20706_2.png) [@SkipMagic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkipMagic)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2003, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-nutjob-nomination-thread/206995/139 "2003-10-16T19:09:36Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Homebrew \* > \*\*Sorry, I meant to provide a [link](http://stacks.msnbc.com/news/980764.asp?0cv=cb10) \*\* From the same link: > [@](#): > > “Well, you know what I knew, that my God was bigger than his. I knew that my God was a real God, and his was an idol.” > [@](#): > > Boykin tells NBC News that, given his new assignment, he is curtailing such speeches in the future. He says, “I don’t want … to be misconstrued. I don’t want to come across as a right-wing radical.” :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2003, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-nutjob-nomination-thread/206995/140 "2003-10-16T19:16:57Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Homebrew \* > \*\*Sorry, I meant to provide a [link](http://stacks.msnbc.com/news/980764.asp?0cv=cb10) \*\* I just read that link. Oy vey. My favorite part was the end: > [@](#): > > Boykin tells NBC News that, given his new assignment, he is curtailing such speeches in the future. He says, “I don’t want … to be misconstrued. I don’t want to come across as a right-wing radical.” Too late, Mr. Boykin. Too frickin late. And **ruadh** , Scallon may be an amateur, but don’t you DARE encourage her to move here. What, you don’t think we got enough of our own to deal with? I hear Norway’s got a shortage of religious radicals these days; surely they can take her on. Daniel [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-nutjob-nomination-thread/206995.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-nutjob-nomination-thread/206995.md?page=8)