# Religious Poll

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-poll/511137>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [September 22, 2009, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-poll/511137 "2009-09-22T20:54:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 5

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-poll/511137/81 "2010-05-09T04:37:05Z")

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I chose atheist, but I’m also Hindu, agnostic, and other (antitheist).

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-poll/511137/82 "2010-05-09T05:09:49Z")

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> [@acsenray](#):
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> I chose atheist, but I’m also Hindu, agnostic, and other (antitheist).

You sure you aren’t a practitioner of voodoo?

_\< looks at date of last post before **acsenray** \>_

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**Author:** ![In\_Winnipeg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a8b319/32.png) [@In\_Winnipeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/In_Winnipeg)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-poll/511137/83 "2010-05-09T05:14:44Z")

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Pagan here…

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**Author:** ![Teacake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Teacake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Teacake)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-poll/511137/84 "2010-05-09T13:00:47Z")

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Catholic agnostic.

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**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-poll/511137/85 "2010-05-09T14:58:56Z")

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> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#):
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> I need a Jewish/Atheist choice. There are a lot of us out there!

Yes, that describes me perfectly. I didn’t vote because neither describes me exactly.

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-poll/511137/86 "2010-05-09T16:06:48Z")

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Apathetically agnostic atheist pagan.

I don’t believe in the divine, though I’m not entirely willing to say ‘it’s not possible’. ‘Pagan’ better refers to what I believe any divine entit(y/ies) would be like, and my moral/ethical underpinnings than any other. But, I really don’t care, one way or the other.

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**Author:** ![ryan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a8b319/32.png) [@ryan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ryan)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-poll/511137/87 "2010-05-09T19:28:16Z")

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Zen Agnostic

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-poll/511137/88 "2010-05-09T19:42:30Z")

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I waver between apathetically undecided and agnostic. A belief in atheism seems just as arrogant as a certainty in theism.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-poll/511137/89 "2010-05-09T19:47:24Z")

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A belief in atheism needn’t be arrogant. In fact, it’s rather more of a kind of knowledge than it is a kind of belief. It’s just a conclusion that the evidence supports the atheistic view. Like any other scientific knowledge, it’s provisional. Given actual evidence that atheism is incorrect, I don’t think most atheists would continue to hold to it.

Is it arrogant to believe that water boils at 212 degrees Fahrenheit at sea level?

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**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-poll/511137/90 "2010-05-09T19:50:10Z")

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_ **Undecided and/or apathetic** _

Undecided _ **because** _ apathetic.

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**Author:** ![badlyburnttoast](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ad7895/32.png) [@badlyburnttoast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/badlyburnttoast)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-poll/511137/91 "2010-05-09T20:33:30Z")

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> [@ivan\_astikov](#):
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> I waver between apathetically undecided and agnostic. A belief in atheism seems just as arrogant as a certainty in theism.

Let me ask you this: Are you undecided if the theory gravity is true, or if it’s just invisible space gremlins holding everything down?

Is it arrogant to believe it’s not space gremlins?

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**Author:** ![Hanako](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/67e7ee/32.png) [@Hanako](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hanako)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-poll/511137/92 "2010-05-09T21:30:05Z")

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Islam what you people call “muslim” brings peace to my soul so I am a muslim and Islam is my religion I can only reach God with Islam.

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 10:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-poll/511137/93 "2010-05-10T10:42:20Z")

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> [@badlyburnttoast](#):
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> Let me ask you this: Are you undecided if the theory gravity is true, or if it’s just invisible space gremlins holding everything down?
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> Is it arrogant to believe it’s not space gremlins?

No, the arrogance comes from saying “It’s gravity.” as if that explains everything, when scientists still don’t completely understand it.

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**Author:** ![bldysabba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecccb3/32.png) [@bldysabba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bldysabba)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2014, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-poll/511137/94 "2014-07-21T21:51:57Z")

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I’m bumping this thread to see if new members/voters end up changing the poll significantly. I don’t really expect them to. For the record, I’m _another_ atheist Hindu.

> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> There’s the poster **indian** , but I haven’t seen him about recently, and not really sure that he’s Hindu though he lives in in India itself.

I’m reasonably certain that he was Christian.

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**Author:** ![Octarine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/22d042/32.png) [@Octarine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Octarine)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2014, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-poll/511137/95 "2014-07-21T22:12:32Z")

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I’m a new-ish member - I voted “Atheist,” though technically I’m more of a nonpracticing Jew/hesitant atheist/apatheist/whatever else you care to throw in there. I used to identify as agnostic, but then I realized basically the only reason I did was so if I turned out to be completely off the mark and showed up at St. Pete’s desk, I could argue my way into Heaven. If I’m wrong, at least I’m being firm about it! 😃

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2014, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-poll/511137/96 "2014-07-21T22:53:03Z")

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> [@Octarine](#):
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> I used to identify as agnostic, but then I realized basically the only reason I did was so if I turned out to be completely off the mark and showed up at St. Pete’s desk, I could argue my way into Heaven.

Do you think Heaven is something people can argue their way into?

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**Author:** ![Octarine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/22d042/32.png) [@Octarine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Octarine)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2014, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-poll/511137/97 "2014-07-21T23:27:24Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> Do you think Heaven is something people can argue their way into?

No - if we’re accepting the Christian god as the one who exists, he’d be omniscient, so hiding one’s true beliefs and intentions is futile. That’s why I realized being an agnostic for that reason was stupid. Sure, if you honestly believe there is no way of knowing whether there is a God or not, being agnostic is fine, but the view that it’s a safer alternative to atheism doesn’t make sense. (Plus, in most forms of Christianity you have to accept Jesus as you savior, aka be Christian, to be granted eternal salvation, so it wouldn’t really matter if you called yourself an atheist or an agnostic anyway).

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**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2014, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-poll/511137/98 "2014-07-21T23:32:39Z")

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> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#):
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> But I’m a practicing Jew- I go to Synagogue regularly, my children have religious education and I believe in and practice many of the tenets of Judaism.
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> I just don’t believe in god, and that position is not incompatible with being a practicing Jew. While much of it does relate to ethnicity, I grant you- much of it also relates to my connection with the ethical and spiritual beliefs found in the religious aspects of being Jewish.

My wife is very similar to this. She self-identifies as Jewish (and is ethnically so), puts mezuzot on the doors, keeps holidays, keeps kosher (pretty strictly for a Reform), but does not believe in a personal god. She says the customary prayers without believing, or feeling the need to believe, that there’s anyone listening on the other end. For her, Judaism gives her a sense of belonging with a very long tradition, not necessarily any personal relationship with deity.

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**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2014, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-poll/511137/99 "2014-07-21T23:34:55Z")

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> [@MsWhatsit](#):
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> I put agnostic, although I think it’s just my lack of commitment that keeps me from self-identifying as atheist.

You may enjoy this quote from Jerry DeWitt. It covers how I feel pretty well. I’ve bolded the most pertinent part:

“Skepticism is my nature. Freethought is my methodology. **Agnosticism is my conclusion. Atheism is my opinion.** Humanitarianism is my motivation.”

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**Author:** ![MoonMoon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moonmoon/32/2959_2.png) [@MoonMoon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MoonMoon)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2014, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-poll/511137/100 "2014-07-22T00:00:17Z")

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I chose other because I believe in God, but not the Trinity.

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