# Religious types: what does your church, etc. teach that you don't believe, and why? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [June 8, 2010, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-types-what-does-your-church-etc-teach-that-you-dont-believe-and-why/542463 "2010-06-08T19:33:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-types-what-does-your-church-etc-teach-that-you-dont-believe-and-why/542463/41 "2010-06-11T01:21:11Z")
> [@Ruken](#): > > Not really any official doctrines and such for us Quakers, so I don’t have much to contribute. Like **Shodan** ’s situation, it’s more that they’re squishy left and I’m less so on some issues. > > Sometimes you think you’re squishy left, and then you meet some folks who show you that there are whole realms of squish that you had never dreamed of. On the other hand, in my particular Assembly of God congregation, I’m the liberal one, tho I’m still to the Right of much of the world. ---
**Author:** ![Saintly\_Loser](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saintly_loser/32/4045_2.png) [@Saintly\_Loser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saintly_Loser)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-types-what-does-your-church-etc-teach-that-you-dont-believe-and-why/542463/42 "2010-06-11T02:40:01Z")
Catholic here. I don’t believe that women cannot be ordained, although I believe the Church can (but shouldn’t) choose not to ordain them. I don’t believe my Church’s teaching on birth control, and I think it’s inconsistent and doesn’t make much sense. ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-types-what-does-your-church-etc-teach-that-you-dont-believe-and-why/542463/43 "2010-06-11T04:02:49Z")
Oh yeah, I also don’t get how artificial birth control is bad, but “natural family planning” or whatever is OK. ---
**Author:** ![ITR\_champion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c67d28/32.png) [@ITR\_champion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ITR_champion)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2010, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-types-what-does-your-church-etc-teach-that-you-dont-believe-and-why/542463/44 "2010-06-13T04:11:52Z")
I’m a member of the Episcopal Church in the United States. Our only official statement of faith is the Apostle’s Creed. I agree with it in its entirety, so regarding that I have no disagreements with the church. On a personal level, I believe that the Episcopal Church (and all other American churches) should be much more vocal about opposing torture and other human rights abuses by the U. S. government, war, and sweatshop labor by American corporations. The bishops issue statements with the correct stances and I applaud them for that, but the message isn’t being presented forcefully. ---
**Author:** ![Rala](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@Rala](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rala)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2010, 10:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-types-what-does-your-church-etc-teach-that-you-dont-believe-and-why/542463/45 "2010-06-13T10:34:43Z")
I disagree with my (United) church that homosexuality is a sin. I’m strongly supportive of gay rights and same sex marriage. I disagree with the Christian Union at my university that everything in the Bible is the infallible word of God. I think it’s a great book describing Israel’s and, later, the church’s history and their experience of and insights into God. It was inspired by God, but written and published by flawed, biased (though well-meaning) human beings. I’d never heard of modal monarchism before I read **Shodan** ’s link, but it makes a lot more sense to me than the way I’ve always heard the trinity explained at church. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2010, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-types-what-does-your-church-etc-teach-that-you-dont-believe-and-why/542463/46 "2010-06-15T15:13:18Z")
Catholic and don’t really believe in transubstantiation. I think the Protestants are more correct, that the Eucharist is symbolic. However, I can’t 100% disagree because Jesus did say “This IS my body…” I am pro-choice because Jesus did not address it, the question of when a clump of cells becomes human is not so easy as the Church makes it. The Church’s position on birth control was outdated 50 years ago, even more so now. I see it more as anti-sex than pro-life. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/religious-types-what-does-your-church-etc-teach-that-you-dont-believe-and-why/542463.md?page=2)