# Reluctantly — Fuck Texas

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 19, 2021, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289 "2021-02-19T14:59:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2021, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/281 "2021-04-26T23:13:43Z")

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Would it be kosher under Constitutional law for a state to secede if it was _invited_ to do so?

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2021, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/282 "2021-05-03T13:53:16Z")

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It seems to me that this is okay only if done through Constitutional amendment means. The Constitution has a process for getting in but, as it stands, not for getting out.

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**Author:** ![fedman1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e495f1/32.png) [@fedman1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fedman1)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2021, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/283 "2021-05-03T18:15:00Z")

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let me note that you guys VOTED them in!!

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2021, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/284 "2021-05-03T21:14:30Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Would it be kosher under Constitutional law for a state to secede if it was _invited_ to do so?

Can we trade it for DC?

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2021, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/285 "2021-05-04T04:10:08Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> …but, as it stands, not for getting out.

“…but you can, never leave.” - D. Henley

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2021, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/286 "2021-05-04T07:21:52Z")

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Can we build a wall around Texas?

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**Author:** ![BlinkingDuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@BlinkingDuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlinkingDuck)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2021, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/287 "2021-05-10T14:34:52Z")

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Texas!

It should be like a whole other country! 😉

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**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2021, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/288 "2021-05-11T03:06:47Z")

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“None of you seem to understand. I’m not locked in here with you… you’re locked in here with me!”  
Walter Kovacs

He was pretty nuts though.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2021, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/289 "2021-05-11T18:26:59Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Can we build a wall around Texas?

And fill the area within that wall with cement?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2021, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/290 "2021-05-11T18:30:47Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> > [@Guinastasia](#):
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> > Can we build a wall around Texas?
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> And fill the area within that wall with cement? -

That would be way too hard.

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2021, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/291 "2021-05-11T18:34:36Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> > [@Lobohan](#):
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> > And fill the area within that wall with cement? -
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> That would be way too hard.

How about sawdust, then?

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2021, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/292 "2021-05-11T19:16:41Z")

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Can I ask a silly question ?

Whenever Texas talks of secession … is there _anybody_ that ever argues against it ?

Or is this the prepubescent kid who’s going to hold his breath until he gets his way ?

Incidentally, sawdust goes really nicely with epoxy … JFTR.

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**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2021, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/293 "2021-05-11T20:47:29Z")

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“Texas” doesn’t talk of secession — a loud mouth minority who have no political influence does. Our politicians love to strut and brag about how if we were our own country we’d have the world’s X largest economy and grumble about how we send Y dollars to Washington. But there is zero appetite among state office holders for secession.

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**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/294 "2021-05-12T05:20:20Z")

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> [@flurb](#):
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> “Texas” doesn’t talk of secession — a loud mouth minority who have no political influence does.

Yep, and the few Texans I have heard express secessionist ideas in my presence get pretty quiet when I tell them I’ll be the first person signing up to shoot them if they try to enact their ideas.

Really, if you propose Texas seceding or being expulsed, you’re branding yourself as an idiot. It’s a stupid idea any way you slice it.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/295 "2021-05-13T17:56:34Z")

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> [@Pleonast](#):
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> How about sawdust, then?

Jello?

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**Author:** ![Steve\_McQwark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@Steve\_McQwark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_McQwark)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/296 "2021-05-13T20:06:29Z")

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> [@Typo\_Negative](#):
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> Jello?

Yeah, hi, our records show that your car’s extended warranty is about to expire, and I’m offering you the chance to renew it for a low price.

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**Author:** ![Turek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/turek/32/18782_2.png) [@Turek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turek)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2021, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/297 "2021-05-19T18:46:28Z")

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Fuck you so very hard, Texas.

> **[The Governor Of Texas Has Signed A Law That Bans Abortion As Early As 6 Weeks](https://www.npr.org/2021/05/19/998237349/the-governor-of-texas-has-signed-a-law-that-bans-abortion-as-early-as-6-weeks)**
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> The new law prohibits abortion the moment a fetal heartbeat has been detected, before many women are even aware that they are pregnant. Enforcement of the law relies on private citizens.

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**Author:** ![chela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chela/32/21582_2.png) [@chela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chela)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2021, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/298 "2021-05-19T23:18:29Z")

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I agree, and at the very least women in Texas still have access to the morning after pill.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/299 "2021-05-20T01:54:07Z")

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If people think this madness ends with abortion…think again.

This has nothing to do with the sanctity of life; this is about giving a special brand of political conservatives wide-ranging authorization to control sexual behavior and other types of private behavior, not because they’re interested in said behavior, but because it gives them a tool to control private action, private conversations, private thoughts.

This will end when people of all stripe collectively shove their crosses up their asses.

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/300 "2021-05-20T06:12:24Z")

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Interesting Wall Street Journal about the electrical catastrophe in Texas in February:

As Texas Went Dark, the State Paid Natural-Gas Companies to Go Offline: A program meant to reduce industrial electricity use during emergencies contributed to power plants not getting fuel during February’s freeze

> The Electric Reliability Council of Texas activated a program that pays large industrial power users to reduce their consumption during emergencies. But the grid operator, known as Ercot, didn’t know who was being paid to participate in this program and what type of facilities were getting shut off, it has since acknowledged.
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> The Journal’s analysis of grid records shows that participants included dozens of critical pieces of natural-gas infrastructure. Ercot ordered them to stay off for more than four days, as gas prices surged to extraordinary levels and some power plants stopped producing electricity because they couldn’t get enough fuel to function.

[https://archive.is/4ogo2](https://archive.is/4ogo2)

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