# Reluctantly — Fuck Texas **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 19, 2021, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289 "2021-02-19T14:59:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2021, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/361 "2021-08-10T01:52:34Z")
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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2021, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/362 "2021-08-10T14:08:50Z")
The hypocrisy, it burns. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2021, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/363 "2021-08-20T14:04:05Z")
> **[Another Abortion Access Crisis Looms in Texas](https://jezebel.com/another-abortion-access-crisis-looms-in-texas-1847518832)** > > An appeals court is upholding a ban on a common second-trimester procedure This thread and the f\*&% abbot should be merged - just my thought. ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2021, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/364 "2021-09-01T13:08:34Z")
> **[Texas' 6-week abortion ban lets private citizens sue in an unprecedented...](https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/31/politics/texas-six-week-abortion-ban-supreme-court-explainer/index.html)** > > A Texas state law that bans abortion after as early as six weeks into the pregnancy could provide the playbook for red states to pass extreme abortion restrictions -- without having to wait for the Supreme Court to revisit Roe v. Wade. I knew the Taliban was moving fast to take control of Afghanistan, but I had no idea they were _this_ fast - they’ve taken over Texas, as well. Unreluctantly, fuck Texas. Fuck Greg Abbott. Fuck Texas Right To Life. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2021, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/365 "2021-09-01T15:49:58Z")
> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#): > > I knew the Taliban was moving fast to take control of Afghanistan, but I had no idea they were _this_ fast - they’ve taken over Texas, as well. > > Unreluctantly, fuck Texas. Fuck Greg Abbott. Fuck Texas Right To Life. Unreluctantly indeed. Enjoy your back-alley abortions, you fucking morons. Is there anyway we could sell the “state” back to Mexico? ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2021, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/366 "2021-09-01T16:04:31Z")
Mexico wouldn’t take them. They are too ignorant and backwards. Besides, most of them are criminals and drug dealers. ---
**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2021, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/367 "2021-09-01T16:06:09Z")
I see what you did there. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2021, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/368 "2021-09-01T18:01:13Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Besides, most of them are criminals and drug dealers. Well, some of them might be good people, I assume. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2021, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/369 "2021-09-01T18:08:19Z")
Some of us are fighting the good fight. And of course, that means the recent laws cracking down on the big (read: increasingly Dem) cities. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2021, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/370 "2021-09-01T20:14:44Z")
I imagine those receiving the back alley abortions by and large aren’t the people who will enjoy them. ---
**Author:** ![Ponderoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponderoid/32/19221_2.png) [@Ponderoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponderoid)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2021, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/371 "2021-09-02T05:10:48Z")
Samantha Bee might have read this thread: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/HOcC3uxgHYk/maxresdefault.jpg "F\*ck You, Texas") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOcC3uxgHYk) ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2021, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/372 "2021-09-02T06:42:20Z")
The GD thread on this law has me thinking that this particular attempt will be relatively short-lived. But it’s still as perfectly condemning as you say as a general indication of how Republicans in Texas think and intend to operate. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2021, 9:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/373 "2021-09-02T09:57:51Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > But it’s still as perfectly condemning as you say as a general indication of how Republicans in Texas think and intend to operate. But … the anti-abortion thing is all about the Sanctity of Life™, dontcha see? They’re perfectly consistent on this Sanctity of Life™ thing. F’rinstance … [https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/01/us/texas-open-carry-laws/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/01/us/texas-open-carry-laws/index.html) Or another f’rinstance: > **[Why Texas Leads the Nation for Executions](https://www.peeklawgroup.com/blog/2016/june/why-does-texas-lead-the-nation-for-executions-/)** > > Since 1976, Texas carried out 537 executions of death row prisoners, well above the second-placed state of Oklahoma that executed 112. … and of course, this: > **[Florida and Texas lead US COVID-19 surge](https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/florida-and-texas-lead-us-covid-19-surge)** And this: [https://www.kvue.com/article/news/texas-is-one-of-the-worst-states-for-child-well-being-report-says/269-427a62f3-ad3c-4ca1-b444-c298f82b1edb](https://www.kvue.com/article/news/texas-is-one-of-the-worst-states-for-child-well-being-report-says/269-427a62f3-ad3c-4ca1-b444-c298f82b1edb) ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2021, 10:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/374 "2021-09-02T10:16:51Z")
The fundamental premise of what calls itself the ‘pro-life’ movement is the notion that a fetal or embryonic human life is just as valuable as the lives of those of us who’ve already been born. But no more than that. The value of a born life is a ceiling on the value of an unborn life. So if they value the latter at or near zero, then that pretty much undermines their moral justification for opposing abortion. And that’s what they’ve done over the past 18 months. The same people who populate the ‘pro-life’ movement have basically shrugged as millions of people around the world have died of Covid. And the ‘pro-life’ orgs haven’t concerned themselves in the least about the plague deaths. And of course evangelicals, who are the backbone of the ‘pro-life’ movement, have been in the vanguard of the ‘fuck masks, fuck the vax’ movement. They’re objectively anti-life. So whatever their motivation for opposing abortion (punishing women for having sex, I assume), it’s clear that their alleged regard for the sanctity of life is bullshit and has nothing to do with it. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2021, 10:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/375 "2021-09-02T10:52:53Z")
So, Texas passed & signed “The Fugitive Woman Act”…? Will fat white guys with shotguns and packs of hounds be chasing them across the fields as they try to flee their “owners”? Will other states allow them refuge? (I’m more than willing to hide “fugitive women” at my house until we can figure out a safe route to get them across the border and into Canada.) ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2021, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/376 "2021-09-02T11:06:02Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > The fundamental premise of what calls itself the ‘pro-life’ movement is the notion that a fetal or embryonic human life is just as valuable as the lives of those of us who’ve already been born. - More like “pro-birth” that “pro-life”. Look how strenuously they object to WIC, SNAP and welfare in general in addition to your points about COVID. [![](https://i.redd.it/4xh6e8bzsly21.jpg) ](https://i.redd.it/4xh6e8bzsly21.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2021, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/377 "2021-09-02T11:15:59Z")
States in the south are racing to see who reaches the goal of ‘American Taliban’ first. Rightwingers will claim that they hate the Taliban, but they only hate the god they worship, otherwise they like the ideology. ---
**Author:** ![Toxgoddess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Toxgoddess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toxgoddess)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2021, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/378 "2021-09-02T11:47:21Z")
The other crazy part of this anti-abortion law is that anyone can sue anyone for providing assistance to obtain an abortion - and that includes giving someone money, transportation or assistance with transportation to another state to get one. If you are so sued and you don’t show up in court to defend yourself, you are automatically guilty and the plaintiff is awarded up to $10,000. If you win your case, you are awarded nothing. You’re innocent but out the legal fees and court costs. Am I the only one who thinks this is unworkable? Say I’m disgusted with my homeowners’ association. I sue each and every one of them for helping someone, a neighbor, sister, niece or friend, say, to obtain an abortion by giving them a ride to the bus stop or money. Doesn’t matter that the allegations are completely fabricated and there’s no proof of any of it. If they don’t show up in court, they are guilty and I get money. If they do show up and I lose - well, I’ll just do it again next week. It seems like this law can be used to harass anybody anyone has a grudge against, male or female. I think there’s a 100% chance it will be abused like this and the courts will be flooded with nuisance lawsuits - but not necessarily against abortion providers. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2021, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/379 "2021-09-02T12:05:55Z")
> [@Toxgoddess](#): > > I think there’s a 100% chance it will be abused like this and the courts will be flooded with nuisance lawsuits - but not necessarily against abortion providers. As long as the law is not working as intended, fine. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2021, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/380 "2021-09-02T13:36:19Z")
> [@Toxgoddess](#): > > I think there’s a 100% chance it will be abused like this and the courts will be flooded with nuisance lawsuits - but not necessarily against abortion providers. With the Supreme Court taking a pass, I think the only avenue left to abortion rights defenders in Texas is to sue every Republican officeholder or voter who is even tangentially related to someone who had an abortion. You gave birthday money to your niece who ended up using it to pay for an abortion? See you in court. You dropped your sister off at the bus stop, not knowing she was going to take the Number 9 to the abortion clinic? See you in court. You didn’t know you were assisting an abortion? You can make your case in court, with all of the lawyers fees and interruption to your life that entails. It’s a pretty fucking weak strategy, but it’s all we have left. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289.md?page=18) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289.md?page=20)