# Reluctantly — Fuck Texas

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 19, 2021, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289 "2021-02-19T14:59:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2021, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/421 "2021-09-04T20:01:21Z")

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I don’t think this would change anything. Even if this happened to some Republican legislator, and his or her heart grew three sizes that day, and he or she rose up to oppose this legislation, they would just find themselves ejected from office at their next primary. These legislators are simply reflecting the preferences of the conservative voters in their gerrymandered districts.

Which leads to my strategy. The list of all the people who voted in the last Texas Republican primary is freely available from the Secretary of State’s office, including their name, date of birth and physical address. Take a lesson from the SovCits. Get teams of lawyers to work filing masses of lawsuits against all of them. Issue subpoenas for them to testify. Register liens on their houses. Clog up the state court system so that those with other cases can’t be heard. The legislation even protects such lawsuits from state laws designed to prevent frivolous lawsuits, so go nuts.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2021, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/422 "2021-09-04T20:30:59Z")

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> [@flurb](#):
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> Even if this happened to some Republican legislator, and his or her heart grew three sizes that day, and he or she rose up to oppose this legislation, they would just find themselves ejected from office at their next primary. These legislators are simply reflecting the preferences of the conservative voters in their gerrymandered districts.

It’s your classic runaway positive feedback loop. I just hope it doesn’t destroy everything else when it blows up.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/WvMl8LUzQnk/hqdefault.jpg "Norfolk Southern Train On Fire!") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvMl8LUzQnk&t=80s)

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2021, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/423 "2021-09-05T03:53:13Z")

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Well screw this heap’o fuck-ups:

> **[Texas Right to Life temporarily barred from enforcing 6-week abortion ban...](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/planned-parenthood-restraining-order-texas-right-to-life/)**
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> Under the order, the anti-abortion rights group is banned from "instituting private-enforcement lawsuits" against Planned Parenthood itself, as well as its doctors, staff and patients.

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> Now, with the restraining order in place, Texas Right to Life’s actions are limited. Within the past two days, the group had created a [website](https://prolifewhistleblower.com/) where people could leave information anonymously about “aiding or abetting a post-heartbeat abortion.” And it had set its sights on expanding abortion bans to other states, saying that it “hopes to replicate our success across the nation.”

Indeed, success like restraining orders and stuff.

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> The group responded to the judge’s order [on Twitter](https://twitter.com/TXRightToLife/status/1433962739723079680), noting that the order only applies to those working with the organization. “The order from the Travis Co Judge DOES NOT stop other individuals not associated or working with TRTL from suing,” the group wrote.

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**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2021, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/424 "2021-09-05T21:25:02Z")

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IANAL, but it’s my understanding that the extremely devilish nature of this new anti-abortion law lies in the fact that it’s a law that would be enforced by civil and not criminal penalties, therefore it’s more difficult to claim that your constitutional right to an abortion is being abridged because the enforcers are private citizens, not government officials (in addition to the fact that it would be like whack-a-mole to figure out who to bring suit against to claim your constitutional rights have been violated).

But why is it potentially NOT considered a violation of your (general you) rights just because private citizens are the ones bringing suit against you in civil court? The yahoos who are interested in suing anyone they claim “aided and abetted” an abortion after 6 weeks may not be government officials, but the ones who PASSED the law in the first place sure were. And I’m assuming it will be Texas state judges presiding over any of these civil cases that may be brought.

WHAT THE FUCK? I have no other coherent words as I am so beyond angry. The US Supreme Court can go fuck itself. Oh, and also fuck Texas, not reluctantly.

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**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2021, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/425 "2021-09-06T16:51:04Z")

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> [@Skypist](#):
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> But why is it potentially NOT considered a violation of your (general you) rights just because private citizens are the ones bringing suit against you in civil court?

This new Texas anti-abortion law isn’t intended to stand up in court. It’s going to collapse as soon as anyone puts any sort of stress test on it. No, it’s intended strictly as a chilling effect- it exists to _threaten_ abortion providers into shutting down.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2021, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/426 "2021-09-06T18:51:14Z")

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> [@Lightnin](#):
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> it exists to _threaten_ abortion providers into shutting down.

Kansas and Oklahoma abortion providers are bracing for an uptick in patients.

> **[Texas now has the toughest abortion restrictions in the United States. What...](https://www.cjonline.com/story/news/state/2021/09/03/texas-abortion-law-could-impact-kansas-providers/5693936001/)**
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> The debate over abortion in Kansas will likely take on a new dimension after a new restrictions in Texas, among the toughest in the country.

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2021, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/427 "2021-09-06T23:20:24Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> I want the “Like” button back.

While I’m still not sure that technically you can fuck brainless, soulless plastic… I want the "Like button back too!

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2021, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/428 "2021-09-06T23:41:31Z")

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> [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](#):
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> > [@running\_coach](#):
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> > I want the “Like” button back.
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> **While I’m still not sure that technically you can fuck brainless, soulless plastic** … I want the "Like button back too! -

I’m sure the Marketing Department of the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation can explain how that works.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2021, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/429 "2021-09-07T23:49:46Z")

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Ehhh. If this goes on for any length of time, isn’t this go to makeTexas have fewer and fewer women?

I would never move to a state or country where my health care was limited because of my gender.

Apparently you can wear a gun on your hip (men and women), but women lose their rights to health care.

Texas Taliban.

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**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2021, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/430 "2021-10-07T12:29:43Z")

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Stupid, evil Texas abortion law temporarily stayed now.

> **[Federal judge issues order blocking Texas' 6-week abortion ban | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/06/politics/texas-abortion-ban-federal-judge-order-block/index.html)**
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> A federal judge in Texas issued an order Wednesday blocking the state's six-week abortion ban.

I’m assuming it will get reinstated and have to go through the fifth circuit and scotus and take forever to do so.

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**Author:** ![Turek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/turek/32/18782_2.png) [@Turek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turek)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/431 "2021-10-22T13:33:21Z")

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Ken Paxton, Texas’ indicted felon of an AG, opens his lying pie hole:

> **[Texas attorney general Ken Paxton says ‘overthrow’ put Joe Biden in White...](https://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/2021/10/21/texas-attorney-general-ken-paxton-says-overthrow-put-joe-biden-in-white-house-instead-of-trump/)**
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> WASHINGTON – Ken Paxton, the Texas attorney general who as chair of “Lawyers for Trump” tried to overturn Joe Biden’s election in court, said Thursday that he...

> A woman in the crowd asked Paxton how many Republican governors “are willing to stand up and proclaim that Trump did win the 2020 election? We have evidence.”
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> “We’re sick of the overthrow,” she said. “This has been an overthrow, and we expect actually all of you to stand up and proclaim this. With 50 Republican senators, well at least maybe 40 of them, it’s time to do that, take the bull by the horn. We won, we know that. This is an overthrow.”
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> “So, let me just say that I agree with you,” Paxton responded.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/432 "2021-10-22T19:00:33Z")

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In case you don’t know what the endgame is, remember, these guys put their evil plots in writing.

> **[The Seditionist’s Cookbook](https://www.thebulwark.com/the-seditionists-cookbook/)**
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> Is violence an essential element of the populist right’s political agenda? To claim otherwise has become increasingly difficult. A manifesto co-authored by John Eastman—the Trump lawyer who was forced to resign as dean of Chapman University Law...

> **[How States Could Constitutionally Assume Abandoned Responsibilities of the...](https://amgreatness.com/2021/08/10/how-states-could-constitutionally-assume-abandoned-responsibilities-of-the-national-government/)**
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> The COVID pandemic has witnessed the exercise of state “police powers” on a scale and scope unprecedented in America’s peacetime history. Out of fear of contagion, massive amounts of private property…

But don’t worry, the I heard a rumor DOJ might be pondering the idea of having a discussion about the possibility of considering maybe talking about doing something. And I’m sure Congress may issue a scathing report that no will read by 2025 or so.

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**Author:** ![Turek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/turek/32/18782_2.png) [@Turek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turek)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2021, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/433 "2021-10-28T11:57:12Z")

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The Texas Taliban is still active:

> **[Texas lawmaker says 850 books ranging from race to sexuality could cause...](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/texas-lawmaker-says-850-books-ranging-race-sexuality-cause-discomfort-rcna3953)**
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> Teachers union fires back: “What will Rep. Krause propose next? Burning books he and a handful of parents find objectionable?"

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2021, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/434 "2021-10-28T12:18:48Z")

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I thought preventing discomfort was a liberal thing? What are this kids, snowflakes?

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2021, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/435 "2021-10-28T12:31:47Z")

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Well, thanks to climate change snowflakes might be extinct too eventually.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2021, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/436 "2021-10-28T14:04:48Z")

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“House Committee on General Investigating?”

Sounds like the kind of committee you create to keep the children occupied while the adults are trying to work. Not that there are many adults in Texas government.

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2021, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/437 "2021-10-28T14:21:12Z")

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Time to play sports somewhere else.

> **[NAACP calls on athletes not to sign with Texas teams over voting, abortion laws](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/naacp-calls-athletes-sign-texas-teams-voting-abortion/story?id=80827394sports)**
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> Teams from the NBA, NHL, NFL, WNBA and MLB were sent the letter.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2021, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/438 "2021-10-29T16:41:21Z")

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> [@Folacin](#):
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> I thought preventing discomfort was a liberal thing? What are this kids, snowflakes?

And based on my years in Texas public schools, I thought causing discomfort was a right-wing thing.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2021, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/439 "2021-10-29T17:24:31Z")

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“Good for thee but not for me” should be their motto

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**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2021, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/440 "2021-11-09T21:16:24Z")

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Lordy, Lordy – Rep. Louie Gohmert is apparently rolling out a primary challenge to Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton. My favorite quote from the article: "The more recent website says Gohmert ‘needs 100,000 citizens to send $100 each (or any other amount to get to $1,000,000) by November 19.’ However, the product of 100,000 and $100 is $10 million, not $1 million.

> **[U.S. Rep. Louie Gohmert exploring run against Attorney General Ken Paxton in...](https://www.texastribune.org/2021/11/09/louie-gohmert-texas-attorney-general-2022/)**
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> Land Commissioner George P. Bush, former Texas Supreme Court Justice Eva Guzman and state Rep. Matt Krause are also vying for the GOP nomination next year.

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