# Reluctantly — Fuck Texas

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 19, 2021, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289 "2021-02-19T14:59:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2023, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/521 "2023-03-15T20:02:15Z")

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Followup here on birth control pill case in Texas.

> **[Judge in Abortion Pill Case Says He'll Issue Ruling As Soon as Possible](https://jezebel.com/judge-in-abortion-pill-case-bans-phones-after-trying-to-1850227845)**
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> Judge Matthew Kacsmaryk really didn't want the press to cover the hearing that could result in him ruling to take mifepristone off the market.

He joins the canon of anti-abortion judges [asking](https://jezebel.com/the-supreme-court-wants-privacy-so-do-we-1848900007) for [privacy](https://jezebel.com/brett-kavanaugh-denied-american-right-to-finish-dessert-1849156756) as they strip privacy from others. And he didn’t stop there.

University of Oklahoma law professor Joseph Thai was scathing in his assessment to the Associated Press. “The fact that the Trump-appointed judge is deciding a highly political question, potentially denying millions of women across the country a safe and effective abortion pill, makes it all the more critical to ensure public notice and access to the hearing at which their rights will—or will not—be heard,” Thai [said.](https://apnews.com/article/abortion-pill-mifepristone-transparency-fda-roe-wade-48c389dd3c892aa9bbc553e0b3de5360) “Nothing less than the legitimacy of the judicial branch is at stake.”

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/522 "2023-03-18T20:59:20Z")

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Transcript and other ephemera here from show trial of the abortion drug.

> **[Transcript of Abortion Pill Hearing Reveals Texas Judge Used Anti-Abortion...](https://jezebel.com/texas-abortion-pill-mifepristone-hearing-transcript-1850240289)**
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> A group of Republicans and right-wingers want Kacsmaryk to put an injunction on the use of mifepristone, the primary abortion pill.

PAB gave this guy a lifetime appointment to screw people he hates. A true ZEALOT for the cause.

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**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/523 "2023-04-07T23:43:23Z")

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With no reluctance whatsoever - FUCK TEXAS.

BBC News - Mifepristone: US judge halts approval for abortion pill

> **[Mifepristone: US judge halts approval for abortion pill](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65217437)**
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> US judge halts approval for commonly used abortion pill mifepristone, but gives government a week to appeal.

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**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2023, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/524 "2023-04-08T16:49:17Z")

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And this will affect all 50 states, not just Texas or red states in general.

I’m frankly kind of tired of blue staters acting like red states’ oppressing their people cannot affect them.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2023, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/525 "2023-04-08T17:22:33Z")

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He’s a federal judge. Which state he happens to be in seems incidental. More relevant is that he was appointed by Trump.

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**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2023, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/526 "2023-04-08T17:28:49Z")

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Yes, that is a good point. He is federal.

I’m extremely worried about this, primarily because of the (even more) restricted access to abortion this will cause, but also because it means that any political/religious group can do an end-run around FDA approval for any medication or vaccination they want and prevent anyone in the whole country from getting it.

If they decide MRNA vaccines are against their religion, they can go before any federal right wing nut job judge of their choice and have a good chance of blocking its use in all 50 states.

Not saying the FDA is perfect, but maybe DOCTORS and SCIENTISTS should be deciding what medications are safe and effective and not religious groups and nut-job judges.

It’s also a case of judge shopping on the part of this religious group that went before this particular judge that they knew would rule their way. Something modeled by Trump time and again.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2023, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/527 "2023-04-08T19:43:02Z")

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Worth noting is that an Obama-appointed federal judge in the state of Washington ruled contrary to this Texas decision:

> **[Judge in Washington orders feds to keep abortion pill access](https://apnews.com/article/washington-abortion-pills-lawsuit-fda-1857d1a4fd356c61ad76e00621e93b44)**
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> A federal judge in Washington state on Friday ordered U.S. authorities not to make any changes that would restrict access to the abortion medication mifepristone in 17 Democratic-led states that sued over the issue, countering a ruling by a judge in...

As hard as I tried I was unable to google the list of 17 states that sued. I’m assuming/hoping my home state of Connecticut is one of them.

My understanding is that this judicial impasse will escalate to the Supreme Court. Unfortunately.

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**Post date:** [April 8, 2023, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/528 "2023-04-08T20:11:36Z")

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> [@EllisDee](#):
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> My understanding is that this judicial impasse will escalate to the Supreme Court. Unfortunately.

And then be banned for decades if not forever and set a precedent of bypassing the FDA every time some extremist decides they don’t want the country to have a particular medical treatment.

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**Author:** ![ratatoskK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ratatoskk/32/2987_2.png) [@ratatoskK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ratatoskK)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2023, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/529 "2023-04-09T18:11:58Z")

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> **[Texas Governor Says He Plans to Pardon Man Convicted of Killing Protester](https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/08/us/politics/greg-abbott-pardon-daniel-perry-texas.html?unlocked_article_code=Q5aU1OilGxbUKufGlVFx4yts5HrpGvo6Y2JVtYpGxO5JPLK27mGXazsskzQaOo9hkSXOjMocDN8gpVSCXS-Ac84KUVPLDixXo_-Ax6Rtm2HBXhIT9K_NSjrUACisyQWDyeeYzzAC4_fwK9pHhE5hCO08gDE1JbkGGFE1asVJJCPkMS4Cos0fCA521DVBUO7okJ5jInzd4bZmQoaJluzuBhWPNod4Ab0j3QEF5FkptVNTNTCekdB3DtI4d4W8GiIUEuadFwLmiYeoqyvG87hUPBXLwRFmb-T3dSpgPq1P0oTvt5XPR9Vp4bO_1ZH79MuTx-Kv3-0f_H75Z5f9B3EF71oWyKTjKzhIIhw_ecdCtQUQIA&smid=url-share)**
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> Gov. Greg Abbott said he would forgo a prison sentence for Daniel S. Perry, who was convicted on Friday in the murder of Garrett Foster at a Black Lives Matter demonstration in 2020.

> Gov. Greg Abbott of Texas said on Saturday that he would pardon a man who was convicted on Friday of murdering a protester in Austin, as long as a state board brought such a request to his desk.
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> The announcement from the governor directly places the fate of Daniel S. Perry, who was found guilty of killing Garrett Foster, 28, at a Black Lives Matter demonstration in 2020, in the hands of the Board of Pardons and Paroles.  
> […]  
> During the trial, prosecutors pointed to Mr. Perry’s social media posts as evidence, such as when he wrote that he might “kill a few people on my way to work; they are rioting outside my apartment complex,” [The Austin American-Statesman reported](https://www.statesman.com/story/news/local/2023/04/08/texas-governor-greg-abbott-will-pardon-daniel-perry-convicted-of-murder-garrett-foster/70095504007/).
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> The jury unanimously voted to convict Mr. Perry.

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**Post date:** [April 9, 2023, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/530 "2023-04-09T22:51:39Z")

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No reluctance at all on this one. What a hateful human being (Abbott). There is no excuse for this.

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**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2023, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/531 "2023-04-17T12:00:19Z")

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No more voting for you!

> **[Texas Senate Passes Bill To Seize Control of Elections from Local Authorities](https://www.democracydocket.com/news-alerts/texas-senate-passes-bill-to-seize-control-of-elections-from-local-authorities/)**
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> Read more here.

Targeting Harris County because it’s the most populous and Dem leaning.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2023, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/532 "2023-05-01T20:30:27Z")

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Texas legislature bans any school assignments that require direct contact between students and elected officials. No meeting with city council members, no attending school board meetings. Civics class must remain in the classroom, no real life experiences.

> **[Texas guts ‘woke civics’. Now kids can't engage in a key democratic process](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/may/01/texas-civics-students-democratic-participation)**
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> Many states have restricted how schools can teach race and gender, but only Texas has banned student interaction with elected officials

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**Post date:** [May 1, 2023, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/533 "2023-05-01T20:46:01Z")

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Somehow this reminds me of Defense Against the Dark Arts as taught by Dolores Umbridge.

“Wands away, class…”

Will some intrepid group of students form an association to petition officials outside of school hours?

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**Post date:** [May 1, 2023, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/534 "2023-05-01T20:56:00Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Texas legislature bans any school assignments that require direct contact between students and elected officials.

Well, considering the high rate of sex crimes among Texas Republicans, it’s only for the children’s safety.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2023, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/535 "2023-05-02T19:49:15Z")

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Besides, the 4th graders might be packing pistols, and the one group that even (especially?) hard core Reactionary Right pols want disarmed are all citizens within range of themselves.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2023, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/536 "2023-05-02T23:39:06Z")

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Fuck Texas.

> **[Texas weatherman going viral over post warning to keep kids from ringing...](https://katu.com/news/nation-world/texas-weatherman-going-viral-over-post-warning-to-keep-kids-from-ringing-doorbells-my-6-was-loaded-chris-robbins-iweathernet-dallas-ralph-yarl-gun-violence-weather-dallas-fort-worth-atlanta-georgia)**
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> A meteorologist who covers areas in Texas is going viral after a social media post drew incredible backlash across the internet.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2023, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/537 "2023-05-03T00:40:15Z")

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It’s time to start giving schoolchildren combat pay [just for going to school.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_Px833tzfs)

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**Post date:** [May 4, 2023, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/538 "2023-05-04T04:13:50Z")

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Is there a summary instead of an 11-minute video?

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**Post date:** [May 4, 2023, 11:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/539 "2023-05-04T11:12:45Z")

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Looks like next year’s election drama will heavily feature Harris County. The Texas legislature is preparing to pull off what Wisconsin legislators wanted to do in Milwaukee and Dane counties before they lost their majority in the state Supreme Court.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2023, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/540 "2023-05-04T15:20:59Z")

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Or as Dirty Harry almost said

> [@TX RW Legislature](#):
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> ‘Nuthin wrong with votin’. As long as only the right people get to do it.

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