# Reluctantly — Fuck Texas

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 19, 2021, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289 "2021-02-19T14:59:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2023, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/561 "2023-05-07T17:00:12Z")

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Greg Abbott wants answers.

> But I gotta tell you that there are questions that are lingering that the families want answers to, and that is, why did this happen? **Why did the government do this?** How did this happen?

Uh, Governor, you ARE the government.

[https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/greg-abbott-implicates-the-government-in-saturday-s-mass-shooting/ar-AA1aRmvC](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/greg-abbott-implicates-the-government-in-saturday-s-mass-shooting/ar-AA1aRmvC)

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**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2023, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/562 "2023-05-07T18:30:01Z")

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Abbott is incapable of discussing ANYTHING without drawing in typical conservative bugbears. He (incorrectly) said that the victims of the Cleveland shooting were illegal immigrants. When the state was entirely without power for a week during the winter storm, he blamed renewables (it was actually the natural gas network that went down).

When he blames “the government,” among Texas conservatives that is inherently understood to be the federal government. There’s no logic to it and it doesn’t matter. This framing lets conservatives direct their fear and anger toward something they’re comfortable fearing and hating, rather than having to take an uncomfortable look at how their own policies have helped create the surge in gun violence.

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**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2023, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/563 "2023-05-07T18:48:11Z")

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> **[BPD: 7 killed when struck by SUV in front of migrant shelter](https://www.valleycentral.com/news/local-news/brownsville-police-investigating-major-accident/)**
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> BROWNSVILLE, Texas (ValleyCentral) – Brownsville police say seven people were killed Sunday morning and it appears they may have been intentionally run over by a motorist. The FBI has been br…

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2023, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/564 "2023-05-07T19:02:14Z")

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The hate filled rhetoric of the far right stokes another asshole to murder.

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**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2023, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/565 "2023-05-07T20:32:47Z")

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It says everything about the state of my state these days that I can’t tell which mass murder from this weekend you’re referring to.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2023, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/566 "2023-05-07T21:01:00Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> The only thing that continues to confuse me every time this thread is updated and rises to the top of my queue s why the word “Reluctantly” is (still) in the title.

Agreed. The place is a fascist shithole.

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2023, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/567 "2023-05-07T21:17:42Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> It’s a big state and every single square inch doesn’t stink. My home, for instance, doesn’t.

yeah, just about all states have their ‘crazy conservative’ zones but i recognize that tons of decent texans are not like that but can’t change much due to gerrymandering.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2023, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/568 "2023-05-07T21:39:18Z")

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> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#):
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> yeah, just about all states have their ‘crazy conservative’ zones

In Washington State, the whole east half of the state is that way for the most part.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2023, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/569 "2023-05-07T22:13:36Z")

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He’s probably rejoicing that the shooter was stopped by “a good guy with a gun”. I mean, I’m glad that police officer was there, and that person probably saved a lot of lives and suffering, but s/he most likely was called to the mall to deal with, for instance, a shoplifter or some loitering teenagers, and instead had to do this. A true “good guy/gal” DOES NOT want to do this.

BTW, most officers never pull, let alone shoot, their guns, and when they do, it’s usually to shoot an injured animal.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2023, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/570 "2023-05-08T03:27:20Z")

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We all know that, if that 5 year old had lived, they’d have turned out trans. And better a dead 5 year old than a live transgender person in Texas.

/sarcasm

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2023, 10:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/571 "2023-05-08T10:43:36Z")

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Worse yet, that five year old might have read a book about slavery in America.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2023, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/572 "2023-05-08T21:32:53Z")

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Hell, just read a book that wasn’t the Bible!

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2023, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/573 "2023-05-08T21:33:34Z")

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Either way, he won’t now.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2023, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/574 "2023-05-09T20:39:26Z")

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Heinlein called it “The Crazy Years”. Here’s hoping we don’t pass on to the sequel.

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**Author:** ![Wallaby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/dc4da7/32.png) [@Wallaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wallaby)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2023, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/575 "2023-05-09T22:07:12Z")

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Actually, don’t even read the Bible! Just ask your pastor/preacher what Jesus _ **really** _ meant.

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**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2023, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/576 "2023-05-09T23:43:12Z")

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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> Heinlein called it “The Crazy Years”. Here’s hoping we don’t pass on to the sequel.

And yet, If this goes on…

Press on.

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**Author:** ![Tatterdemalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Tatterdemalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tatterdemalion)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2023, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/577 "2023-05-10T00:17:55Z")

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> [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](#):
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> And yet, If this goes on…
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> Press on.

It’s all to do with the illogic of empire.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2023, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/578 "2023-05-10T00:32:01Z")

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> [@Wallaby](#):
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> Actually, don’t even read the Bible! Just ask your pastor/preacher what Jesus _ **really** _ meant.

You know, you’re right. Heaven forbid anyone read the actual gospels, compare their teachings to what their preacher is proclaiming, and start asking awkward questions.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2023, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/579 "2023-05-10T15:10:34Z")

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Former minister? Check.  
Republican Rep? Check  
Sexual misconduct? Check?  
Plan B for one of his victims? Texas grand slam

According to the report, Slaton had sexual intercourse with a legislative aide whom he had primary responsibility for overseeing. He invited her to his apartment late March 31 and served her several alcoholic beverages, the committee found. The aide testified that she consumed “a lot of alcohol” and felt “really dizzy" at Slaton’s apartment. Sometime on the morning of April 1, the two had sexual intercourse, and the aide got Plan B to prevent pregnancy later that morning.

> **[Texas House expels Republican Rep. Bryan Slaton after sexual misconduct with...](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/05/09/texas-house-expels-rep-bryan-slaton-for-sexual-misconduct-aide/70200701007/)**
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> The Texas House voted to expel Rep. Bryan Slaton on Tuesday, marking the first time in nearly 100 years the chamber ousted one of its own.

> **[Texas GOP legislator resigns ahead of expulsion vote over alleged sexual...](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/texas-house-considers-expelling-gop-representative-alleged-sexual-cond-rcna83343)**
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> A committee unanimously recommended that Republican Rep. Bryan Slaton be expelled from the Texas House.

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**Post date:** [May 10, 2023, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/580 "2023-05-10T15:58:05Z")

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