# Reluctantly — Fuck Texas

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 19, 2021, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289 "2021-02-19T14:59:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2024, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/941 "2024-06-04T20:10:25Z")

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Even at UT Austin there will be plenty of students who won’t care enough to avoid these jackasses’ classes.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2024, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/942 "2024-06-04T20:22:31Z")

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> [@SwissMan](#):
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> I get the feeling that, barring either of them having tenure, neither of those professors is going to be employed by UT for much longer. I have to imagine that, come this fall, word is going to spread around campus to avoid these two pricks

Or, the Texas Legislature in its next session will decree that no institution receiving public funds may prevent a faculty member from doing this.

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**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2024, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/943 "2024-06-04T20:27:11Z")

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> [@SwissMan](#):
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> I get the feeling that, barring either of them having tenure, neither of those professors is going to be employed by UT for much longer. I have to imagine that, come this fall, word is going to spread around campus to avoid these two pricks.

Unfortunately, all of our state universities’ boards of regents and upper administration are filled with Republican hacks who are more than willing to bend to the wishes of the conservative state leadership. UT is just as likely to make sure to keep these two employed to avoid antagonizing their overlords.

edit: or what @JRDelirious says. The Legislature has already shown an appetite for involving itself in university employment decisions, banning employment of anyone involved with “DEI” and meddling in tenure policies.

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2024, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/944 "2024-06-04T20:35:17Z")

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If a class is required for your major or is the only one that fulfills a gen ed requirement at a time you can attend, it’s difficult to refuse.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2024, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/945 "2024-06-06T14:58:13Z")

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A post from Xitter. Prosper, Texas has a population of 37,746 people.

> <https://x.com/DallasTexasTV/status/1798331056829108320/photo/1>

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**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2024, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/946 "2024-06-06T15:19:43Z")

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“The police department said the vehicle was purchased at no cost to taxpayers because the $689,000 armored vehicle was obtained through the Federal 1033 program . . . readers pointed out that the federal funding still comes from taxpayers.”

> **[Prosper's monster police vehicle draws compliments and criticism](https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/prosper-police-departments-emergency-vehicle/3560134/)**
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> The Prosper Police Department posted a photo of a massive emergency response vehicle on its Facebook page and invited the public to come see it. Instead the public had questions.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2024, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/947 "2024-06-06T16:35:45Z")

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It looks like a school bus, monster truck, and armored car had a baby which joined the police force.

It might have been cheaper to put a cage in the back of a dump truck and add some cop lights.

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**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2024, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/948 "2024-06-06T16:40:29Z")

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> [@flurb](#):
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> “The police department said the vehicle was purchased at no cost to taxpayers because the $689,000 armored vehicle was obtained through the Federal 1033 program

Great. That means you and I helped pay for it.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2024, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/949 "2024-06-06T16:48:31Z")

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Preventing abortions is dirty, difficult, hard work!

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2024, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/950 "2024-07-10T15:01:18Z")

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So bringing this thread back now that I’m in the office with power and decent internet connectivity.

Not reluctantly but emphatically, fuck ERCOT and Centerpoint. House has been without power since the storm and trying to sleep when it’s 85-90 degrees and humid as a jungle in the house is terrible. And the fridge, of course, is a total loss by now, except the canned beverages and maybe a few other items.

Beryl wasn’t nearly as strong as Hurricane Ike 16 years ago but somehow we’re dealing with worse power issues now. I’m sure our Texas brand of “deregulation” is involved but that’s a matter for after we get electricity restored to the city.

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**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2024, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/951 "2024-07-10T15:18:03Z")

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Greg Abbott sends his sympathies from various luxury hotels in East Asia.

> **[Greg Abbott Traipses Off to Asia as Hurricane Beryl Pummels Texas](https://newrepublic.com/post/183560/texas-governor-greg-abbott-asia-hurricane-beryl)**
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> It seems the Texas governor is taking inspiration from Ted Cruz’s infamous Cancun trip, dipping just as a natural disaster hits his state.

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2024, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/952 "2024-07-10T17:28:28Z")

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This is so unsurprising as to be expected now and therefore no longer shocking… which is extremely sad.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2024, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/953 "2024-08-14T14:24:22Z")

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> **[GOP presses State Fair to allow guns](https://eedition.expressnews.com/infinity/article_popover_share.aspx?guid=3719df32-71ae-49ce-a70a-3fae3fdc3523&share=true)**
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> GOP presses State Fair to allow guns

Currently, firearms are banned.

> Texas House Republicans are pressuring State Fair officials to rescind its recent decision to ban all firearms from the fairgrounds.
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> Fair officials and law enforcement announced the policy change last week, roughly a year after a gunman opened fire at the fair, injuring three people. The fair also announced it will have cameras at entrances for the security process and will not provide lockers or bag checks for larger bags.
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> The State Fair of Texas starts Sept. 27 in Dallas.  
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The State Fair of Texas is _really big._ It lasts for 24 days and covers 227 acres in Dallas at Fair Park. The 2023 Fair was attended by 2.4 million people. The Fair is 135 years old.

Here’s the familiar “reasoning”:

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> More than 70 state lawmakers and Republican House nominees had signed a petition saying the new policy makes the fair “less safe” because **“gun free zones are magnets for crime because they present less of a threat to those who seek to do evil.”**  
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My bold.

Yeah, let’s make sure lots of people are armed. (And you know, in Texas they will be.) That way the bad guys will be afraid to come. But wait-- if guns are allowed, then LOTS of bad guys know it will be _easy_ to get in. Yeah, deterrent…right…

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**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2024, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/954 "2024-08-14T15:41:48Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> But wait-- if guns are allowed, then LOTS of bad guys know it will be _easy_ to get in. Yeah, deterrent…right…

Then _obviously_, the good guys will win the resulting firefight.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2024, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/955 "2024-08-14T15:58:34Z")

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The only thing that can stop a bad cotton-candy vendor with a gun…

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2024, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/956 "2024-08-14T16:05:29Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> The only thing that can stop a bad cotton-candy vendor with a gun… -

…is a loaded waffle vendor.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2024, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/957 "2024-08-14T16:10:17Z")

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The state rates dead last for quality of life again.

> **[Texas ranks first for workforce, last for quality of life in annual CNBC study](https://www.sacurrent.com/news/texas-ranks-first-for-workforce-last-for-quality-of-life-in-annual-cnbc-study-35085762)**
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> Texas ranks first in workforce and for technology and innovation, but researchers found Texas lacking in health, worker protections and more.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2024, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/958 "2024-08-14T16:16:40Z")

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Depending on what f\*\*\* is meant to entail I have always wondered why there would be any reluctance to was to screw over Texas. I certainly wouldn’t want intimate contact with the state but to hurt it? Yep. I’ve heard and watched too much about that state and its’ administration and how awful it is. That would only happen with at the least the consent of half of the population.

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**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2024, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/959 "2024-08-14T16:27:17Z")

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As inevitable as the tides, Ken Paxton is getting involved:

> **[Attorney General Ken Paxton threatens to sue Dallas over State Fair gun ban](https://www.texastribune.org/2024/08/14/ken-paxton-texas-state-fair-dallas/)**
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> A state fair spokesperson said they would cooperate with the city of Dallas’s guidance on the matter.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2024, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/960 "2024-08-14T16:31:07Z")

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> [@Baker](#):
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> I have always wondered why there would be any reluctance to was to screw over Texas.

Well, 'cause to some of us, it’s home, ya know? Therefore, _reluctantly._

We recognize the problems and even live with some of them. OTOH some of the problems that loom large to the rest of the country and even seem intolerable don’t touch me in my daily life.

> [@Baker](#):
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> That would only happen with at the least the consent of half of the population.

Oh, I dunno. That’s a pretty simplistic statement. Is _anything_ in life that simple? \<rhetorical question\>

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