# Reluctantly — Fuck Texas **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 19, 2021, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289 "2021-02-19T14:59:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2021, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/101 "2021-02-20T18:15:14Z")
Yeah, they should have voted twice, like Soros paid them to do. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_McQwark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@Steve\_McQwark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_McQwark)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2021, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/102 "2021-02-20T18:20:08Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > 🤦🏽‍♀️ > > [ERCOT officials spent 40 seconds on storm preparedness at meeting](https://www.statesman.com/story/news/environment/2021/02/19/winter-storm-texas-ercot-officials-spent-40-seconds-preparedness-meeting/4507805001/?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark) > > > During their last meeting ahead of the winter storm that left millions of Texans without electricity and potable water for days on end, top officials at the state electric grid operator spent less than one minute discussing the impending storm and whether the state was prepared. > > > > Bill Magness, president and chief executive officer of the [Electric Reliability Council of Texas](https://www.statesman.com/story/news/2021/02/19/ercot-texas-power-grid-outage-board-bill-magness-greg-abbott-public-utility-commision-energy/4515522001/), spoke briefly about the winter weather during his report to the board at the Feb. 9 meeting, the only mention of the incoming storm during the public portion of the virtual meeting, which spanned two hours, 28 minutes. > > > > **Magness spoke about the approaching cold front for about 40 seconds:** > > > > “It is actually going to be winter here pretty soon. As those of you in Texas know, we do have a cold front coming this way. We’ll probably see our winter peak later this week or in the very early part of next week. And Operations has issued an operating condition notice just to make sure everyone is up to speed with their winterization and we’re ready for the several days of pretty frigid temperatures to come our way. > > > > … > > My bold. I don’t think you’re being completely fair here. It says right in the article that they sent out an “operating condition notice” to make sure everyone was up to speed. Now, energy is not my area of expertise, but as a layperson, I can’t imagine what more they could have possibly done to cover their own asses. Heck, I bet they even sent it certified mail so that the Louis DeJoy Memory (of a) Postal Service would get it to the recipients as quickly as possible. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_McQwark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@Steve\_McQwark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_McQwark)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2021, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/103 "2021-02-20T18:21:52Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Yeah, they should have voted twice, like Soros paid them to do. Fuck that. The check didn’t clear so I only voted once. You want quality voter fraud, you have to pay for it. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2021, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/104 "2021-02-20T18:24:16Z")
I agree that Texas is obviously getting more competitive, but folks should be careful about reading too much into a trend line. There are countervailing trends — such as Trump’s surprising increase in support among Hispanics in South Texas — that could slow down or even reverse the “purpling” of Texas. And of course Republicans aren’t just going to sit back and yawn while it happens. Texas Republicans are sure to work to undermine growing Democratic support through means both legitimate (voter outreach, GOTV) and not (voter suppression). ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2021, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/105 "2021-02-20T18:45:51Z")
_Them dad gum byoo-ruh-crats up in WARshington!_ ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2021, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/106 "2021-02-20T18:48:46Z")
I think part of the problem in Texas, and maybe in Florida too, is that Democrats didn’t do a particularly great job of campaigning at the local level and adapting a national campaign to address local sentiments. They just assume that Hispanic hatred of Trump in California is felt by Latinos everywhere. And truth be told, Biden’s outreach to the LatinX communities sucked – about as bad as Clinton’s outreach to African Americans in 2016. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2021, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/107 "2021-02-20T19:23:14Z")
> [@RivkahChaya](#): > > So, did Texas chauvinism exist spring up organically, did the media invent it and Texans embraced it, or it is a myth? I’ve lived in Texas for 14 years and it’s way exaggerated, IMO. Sure, some folks are puffed up on Texas greatness full of themselves but most aren’t. And this attitude is all the more diluted recently as many ‘Texans’ are increasingly people from out of state, like California. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2021, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/108 "2021-02-20T20:11:39Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > Dopers might be interested in how their own states rank in level of preparedness for disasters. I note the link says Texas “meets national average”. If so, the national average is too low to be acceptable IMO. > [@RivkahChaya](#): > > Indiana is below the national average, but I didn’t lose heat (gas), power, water, or even tv/internet, not even for just a few minutes, and even the mid-use streets were kept pretty clear. My landlord did a good job of keeping the parking lot clear. ^ This. Looking deeper it seems our “health security” is subpar, which is not a surprise in a Red state that used to be run by Mike Pence, but the “incident response and management” score is pretty darn high. We had some issues with roads earlier this week, but the power, lights, heat, internet, gas, and water all kept flowing just fine even though we got more cold and snow than Texas did. I don’t expect Texas to be as equipped for snowfall/ice as we are, but goddamn, people, you were told to winterize your power generation and transport ten freakin’ years ago and apparently diddly-squat was done. From what I can tell, it’s because “regulation” is a dirty word in Texas and people researching these things are only permitted to make “suggestions” which can be freely ignored by the power companies. Because the power companies are private and thus must make a buck for shareholders. Wonder how much they save? Wonder how much fixing this mess is going to cost? And how do you put a value on the lives lost? How much you want to bet those responsible will never be held to account? > [@RivkahChaya](#): > > Maybe Indianapolis is ahead of the rest of the state, or maybe my suburb, Speedway, just is. Nope, don’t think so - I’m up in Lake County next to Chicago and the big lake. We do have the lake effect snow to deal with, but, again, no interruption in utilities up here. > [@Dangerosa](#): > > I’m another person who spent time in this industry - and it put me into a padded room with anxiety - I haven’t worked a full time job since. The state of our grid is NOT good nationwide. Yeah… I don’t work in the industry but I’m all too aware of how fragile our civilization infrastructure is. That’s why I’m always reviewing my GO bag and home reserves. ---
**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2021, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/109 "2021-02-20T20:55:17Z")
Here’s an interesting Twitter thread going into some detail why Texas is so fuxxord by all this. > **[Read and Share Twitter Threads easily!](https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1361704035544403972/error)** > > Thread Reader helps you read and share the best of Twitter Threads ---
**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2021, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/110 "2021-02-20T21:07:27Z")
Regarding the Hispanic vote for Trump , I think it’s because Biden will kill babies allegedly. My wife is a sub teacher and generally ends up in heavily hispanic schools on account of being bilingual. She was listening to some pupils whose families you would think would not be trump supporters, and it pretty much came down to Biden will kill babies and so regardless of how unpleasant Trump is, abortion. I wonder if Biden and the Dems will ever be able to get a message through on that subject to counter the narrative. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2021, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/111 "2021-02-20T21:11:22Z")
I always assumed that was the state of play: Biden’s a raging Communist/Socialist/Marxist who will enact _mandatory_ abortions and same-sex marriage. Sigh. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2021, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/112 "2021-02-20T23:14:53Z")
> [@flurb](#): > > Man, it kills me to write that title. I love this state. I love the food and the culture, I love the diversity. I bristle at the caricatures of Texans as a bunch of ignorant, braggadocious cowboys, knowing that the overwhelming majority of people I encounter are personally humble, friendly, kind and generous. Texans as a bunch are ignorant, braggadocious cowboys. Bristle away. But yes, fuck Texas. A miserable state. It deserves pretty much anything that happens to it. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2021, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/113 "2021-02-20T23:21:43Z")
…which is why I think the Democrats should rely less on the inevitability of demography and instead focus more on a different kind of inevitability, such as the inevitability of scarcity and tumult caused by climate change or the inevitability of extreme economic inequality. I like to make fun of Bernie Bros and AOC from time to time, but the reality is that their diagnosis of our collective problem is accurate. Capitalism in the 21st Century will have to be different if society is going to realize the fruits of a free market and a free and stable society. ---
**Author:** ![HelenGawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@HelenGawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenGawn)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2021, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/114 "2021-02-20T23:26:36Z")
In Abbott’s first political campaign, for AG, one of his causes was tort reform, i.e., denying others the kind of relief he got. His opponent pointed out the hypocrisy, which of course put an end to his (the Dem’s) slim chances. ---
**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2021, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/115 "2021-02-20T23:58:19Z")
The fire hydrants were frozen in San Antonio so when the firefighters arrived at a severe apartment fire, they had to find other ways to transport water to the fire. The apartment complex burned down and residents lost everything. > [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > Texans as a bunch are ignorant, braggadocious cowboys. Bristle away. But yes, fuck Texas. A miserable state. It deserves pretty much anything that happens to it. So tired of everyone telling me what I think and what I am. GOP politicians state that Texans don’t care about heat and electricity as long as FREEDUMB! Then some liberals state that Texans are all stupid and the rest of the country would be better off without us. I believe Texas is actually one of the few (only?) red states that is pretty wealthy and has a lot of money in the bank so to speak. Not a poor state like Alabama. Of course a lot of that is because of some unique conditions and the unwillingness to spend, like, ANY money for the benefit of Texans, but still. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2021, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/116 "2021-02-21T00:04:06Z")
> [@Skypist](#): > > I believe Texas is actually one of the few (only?) red states that is pretty wealthy and has a lot of money in the bank so to speak. Not a poor state like Alabama. Of course a lot of that is because of some unique conditions and the unwillingness to spend, like, ANY money for the benefit of Texans, but still. Yada yada yada. I spent 24 years in Texas. Texans are a bunch of ignorant, braggadocious cowboys, and I did let the door slam behind me on my way out. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2021, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/117 "2021-02-21T00:25:24Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > I always assumed that was the state of play: Biden’s a raging Communist/Socialist/Marxist who will enact _mandatory_ abortions and same-sex marriage. Lets not forget make us get gender reassignment against our will. And of course the thousand years of darkness. I was promised that when I voted for Obama the first time. It must take a while for that to come through. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2021, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/118 "2021-02-21T00:27:19Z")
I’m laughing at Elon Musk and HP and all the other oligarchs that relocated their megacorps to Texas just in time for the lights to go out. Ya think they might be reconsidering that move? Hard to do business in the dark. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2021, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/119 "2021-02-21T00:47:34Z")
> [@Precambrianmollusc](#): > > Regarding the Hispanic vote for Trump , I think it’s because Biden will kill babies allegedly. I don’t think this explains much at all, South Texas voters have always been culturally conservative and yet it was only in this last election that they moved decisively toward Trump. Did they think Hillary (whom they overwhelmingly backed) was pro-life? > [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > Yada yada yada. I spent 24 years in Texas. Texans are a bunch of ignorant, braggadocious cowboys, and I did let the door slam behind me on my way out. Adios, mofo. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2021, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289/120 "2021-02-21T00:48:28Z")
> [@flurb](#): > > Adios, mofo. And good riddance to you. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reluctantly-fuck-texas/933289.md?page=7)