# Remake THE WIZARD OF OZ using contemporary FX & actors **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 19, 2011, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/remake-the-wizard-of-oz-using-contemporary-fx-actors/606755 "2011-12-19T17:50:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2011, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/remake-the-wizard-of-oz-using-contemporary-fx-actors/606755/21 "2011-12-19T21:53:06Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > Dorothy- Adele. Hey, if Diana Ross can play Dorothy then even Bea Author’s zombie corpse can. Plus I’d love to hear Adele sing Over The Rainbow. Have you forgotten her vocal cord problems? To get her in the movie we’ll need Evil Inc. resources, and EI is dedicated to making the world _worse_. > [@](#): > > Cowardly Lion- [Jocyln Wildenstein](http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/02_03/Wildenstein1WENN_468x696.jpg) MY EYES! ---
**Author:** ![G0sp3l](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c68b51/32.png) [@G0sp3l](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/G0sp3l)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/remake-the-wizard-of-oz-using-contemporary-fx-actors/606755/22 "2011-12-20T00:23:36Z")
No Tom Cruise?!!? Well there goes my first choice for the Munchkins. Can we at least arrange so that witch Glinda gets hers? Aunt Em - Diane Lane Uncle Henry - Morgan Freeman Dorothy - Kerry Washington Glinda - Monica Bellucci (My first thought was Jennifer Aniston but since I’m hoping to make a GOOD movie…) Wicked Witch - Hellen Mirren Scarecrow - Tilda Swanson Tin Man - Matthew Lillard Lion - The Rock, Duane Johnson Oz- Samuel L. Jackson, “Get these mf-ing monkeys out of the mf-ing Emerald City!” Director - Zach Snyder, cause I liked Watchmen Where’s my oscar? ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/remake-the-wizard-of-oz-using-contemporary-fx-actors/606755/23 "2011-12-20T00:56:12Z")
Dorothy should be played by Saoirse Ronan. Or Chloe Moretz. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/remake-the-wizard-of-oz-using-contemporary-fx-actors/606755/24 "2011-12-20T01:02:35Z")
[QUOTE=G0sp3l;14583537Aunt Em - Diane Lane Uncle Henry - Morgan Freeman[/QUOTE] Mixed race marriage? In Hollywood? Never gonna happen ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/remake-the-wizard-of-oz-using-contemporary-fx-actors/606755/25 "2011-12-20T14:58:05Z")
I need Dorothy to be a young girl, like she’s supposed to be, not an almost adult. Let’s make it a children’s movie again, and fuck that dream shit - Oz was real! Also, mixed race couples are just fine as long as the woman’s going white - a black chick or an Asian chick can be hooked up just fine with a white man. :rolleyes: But no white woman can go with an Asian man or a black guy. Wasn’t there a report that said Asian men are like the least desired men in this country? No matter. I’ll keep my chinese boy. I totally, totally agree Helen Mirren must be in there somewhere, though. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/remake-the-wizard-of-oz-using-contemporary-fx-actors/606755/26 "2011-12-20T15:33:40Z")
> [@G0sp3l](#): > > Scarecrow - Tilda Swanson > Tin Man - Matthew Lillard I’d swap these two. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/remake-the-wizard-of-oz-using-contemporary-fx-actors/606755/27 "2011-12-20T15:49:28Z")
Don’t remake good movies. Remake the bad ones. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/remake-the-wizard-of-oz-using-contemporary-fx-actors/606755/28 "2011-12-20T16:04:12Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > I need Dorothy to be a young girl, like she’s supposed to be, not an almost adult. Let’s make it a children’s movie again, and fuck that dream shit - Oz was real! > > Also, mixed race couples are just fine as long as the woman’s going white - a black chick or an Asian chick can be hooked up just fine with a white man. :rolleyes: But no white woman can go with an Asian man or a black guy. Wasn’t there a report that said Asian men are like the least desired men in this country? Because…? ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/remake-the-wizard-of-oz-using-contemporary-fx-actors/606755/29 "2011-12-20T18:02:55Z")
My pick is Justin Timberlake for the Scarecrow. I can actually see him doing it justice. ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/remake-the-wizard-of-oz-using-contemporary-fx-actors/606755/30 "2011-12-20T18:10:43Z")
[It’s being done on the West End](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wizard_of_Oz_(2011_musical)) Wizard of Oz is a musical based on the 1939 film The Wizard of Oz and L. Frank Baum’s 1900 novel The Wonderful Wizard of Oz. The adaptation is by Andrew Lloyd Webber and Jeremy Sams. The musical uses all of the Harold Arlen and E. Y. Harburg songs from the film and includes new songs and additional music by Andrew Lloyd Webber and additional lyrics by Tim Rice. Dorothy Gale – Danielle Hope Alternate Dorothy – Sophie Evans The Wizard of Oz/Professor Marvel – Michael Crawford Scarecrow/Hunk – Paul Keating Tin Man/Hickory – Edward Baker-Duly Cowardly Lion/Zeke – David Ganly The Wicked Witch of the West/Miss Gulch – Hannah Waddingham Glinda the Good Witch of the North – Emily Tierney Auntie Em/Munchkin Barrister – Helen Walsh[18] Uncle Henry/Philippe/Head Guard – Stephen Scott[18] Toto – Four different West Highland Terriers alternate in the role.[19 ---
**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/remake-the-wizard-of-oz-using-contemporary-fx-actors/606755/31 "2011-12-20T18:14:45Z")
> [@Annie-Xmas](#): > > Toto – Four different West Highland Terriers alternate in the role. Wait…what? This revisionist casting thing is going way too far. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/remake-the-wizard-of-oz-using-contemporary-fx-actors/606755/32 "2011-12-20T18:14:49Z")
Too late. It was already remade as _The Wiz_ with Michael Jackson and flopped. ---
**Author:** ![DMark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DMark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMark)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/remake-the-wizard-of-oz-using-contemporary-fx-actors/606755/33 "2011-12-20T18:26:00Z")
I will simply trust the director to find the cast: Quentin Tarantino Let’s just say there will be blood in Munchkinland, and those Flying Monkeys will be speaking German before they are turned into primate Pâté. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/remake-the-wizard-of-oz-using-contemporary-fx-actors/606755/34 "2011-12-20T18:37:20Z")
> [@Duke](#): > > Wait…what? This revisionist casting thing is going way too far. I agree!!! A [Westie](http://www.google.com/imgres?hl=en&safe=off&sa=X&biw=1600&bih=751&tbm=isch&prmd=imvns&tbnid=xwf9zhJwVwp-sM:&imgrefurl=http://www.digitaldesktopwallpaper.com/downloads/ddw/dog_wallpaper_013.htm&docid=H3RXjwASgorLYM&imgurl=http://www.digitaldesktopwallpaper.com/wallpapers/digitalwallpapers/1024x768/dog002.jpg&w=1024&h=768&ei=ltXwTqahMerO2wXTvYGHAg&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=558&sig=110501452168240250614&page=1&tbnh=162&tbnw=209&start=0&ndsp=21&ved=1t:429,r:13,s:0&tx=119&ty=87), while cute, is NOT a [Cairn](http://www.google.com/imgres?num=10&hl=en&safe=off&biw=1600&bih=751&tbm=isch&tbnid=-bol_LVJJy5PIM:&imgrefurl=http://www.i-love-dogs.com/dog-breeds/Cairn-Terrier.html&docid=Mp_DNnC431xfTM&imgurl=http://www.i-love-dogs.com/dog-breeds/images/Cairn-Terrier.jpg&w=338&h=400&ei=wdXwTqXAAbS_2QW6pP2nAg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=1198&vpy=176&dur=99&hovh=244&hovw=206&tx=115&ty=161&sig=110501452168240250614&sqi=2&page=1&tbnh=165&tbnw=140&start=0&ndsp=21&ved=1t:429,r:5,s:0) Terrier! ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/remake-the-wizard-of-oz-using-contemporary-fx-actors/606755/35 "2011-12-20T18:54:40Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > Too late. It was already remade as _The Wiz_ with Michael Jackson and flopped. :: slowly picks up and loads shotgun, pointing it in **aceplace57’s** general direction :: I’m sure that was a typo, as everyone knows that _The Wiz_ is the greatest movie ever made. It has Lena Goddamn Horne as Glinda, after all. ---
**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/remake-the-wizard-of-oz-using-contemporary-fx-actors/606755/36 "2011-12-20T18:55:14Z")
Anne Hathaway for Dorothy. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/remake-the-wizard-of-oz-using-contemporary-fx-actors/606755/37 "2011-12-20T18:57:18Z")
> [@G0sp3l](#): > > Scarecrow - Tilda Swanson > Tin Man - Matthew Lillard > [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > I’d swap these two. And I’d spell Tilda’s last name “Swinton.” 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/remake-the-wizard-of-oz-using-contemporary-fx-actors/606755/38 "2011-12-20T19:01:42Z")
> [@Annie-Xmas](#): > > [It’s being done on the West End](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wizard_of_Oz_%282011_musical%29) > Wizard of Oz is a musical based on the 1939 film The Wizard of Oz and L. Frank Baum’s 1900 novel The Wonderful Wizard of Oz. The adaptation is by Andrew Lloyd Webber \ :: ritually spits at the name of the despised WebberBeast :: That’s all I need to know. ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/remake-the-wizard-of-oz-using-contemporary-fx-actors/606755/39 "2011-12-20T19:12:11Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > Because…? Because? I don’t remember the gist of the report exactly, but basically it just said in some Gallup polls that Asian men and black women were the least desirable matchups throughout the country. I found it interesting. I’ll see if I can hunt it up. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/remake-the-wizard-of-oz-using-contemporary-fx-actors/606755/40 "2011-12-20T19:16:51Z")
It did get four Academy Award nominations. Ducking for cover. 😉 But, unfortunately… 10 million lost in 1978 is like 30 million in todays money. > [@](#): > > The Wiz proved to be a commercial flop, as the $24 million production only earned $13.6 million at the box office.[1][2][6] Though prerelease TV broadcast rights had been sold to CBS for over $10 million, in the end, the film produced a net loss of $10.4 million for Motown and Universal. > **[The Wiz (film)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wiz_%28film%29)** > > The Wiz is a 1978 American musical fantasy adventure film directed by Sidney Lumet. Adapted from the 1974 Broadway musical, the film reimagines the classic children's novel The Wonderful Wizard of Oz by L. Frank Baum with an African American cast. Dorothy Gale, a 24-year-old teacher from Harlem, is magically transported to the urban-fantasy Land of Oz. On her travels seeking help from the mysterious Wiz, Dorothy befriends a Scarecrow, a robot called Tin Man, and a Cowardly Lion. > Produced by U... > [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > :: slowly picks up and loads shotgun, pointing it in **aceplace57’s** general direction :: > > I’m sure that was a typo, as everyone knows that _The Wiz_ is the greatest movie ever made. It has Lena Goddamn Horne as Glinda, after all. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/remake-the-wizard-of-oz-using-contemporary-fx-actors/606755.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/remake-the-wizard-of-oz-using-contemporary-fx-actors/606755.md?page=3)