Remakes- good or not so good?

Strongly agree. In fact it couldn’t even hold a spark to the 1974 original.

The original low-budget indie version of Meet the Parents from 1992 is a mixed bag screenplay- and acting-wise, but it does have some inspired dark comedy, ranging from accidental pet drowning to wrongly attributed suicide . Sadly, it’s been pulled from all distribution, to the point that most people don’t even know the 2000 big-budget film of that title is a remake.

I didn’t know.

Just about every version of Dracula is better than the Frank Langella version.

I will let y’all argue as to remake status of any Dracula movie.

The Running Man 2024 is leaps and bounds better than the Arnold movie. I watched it out of desperation for something new and ended up loving it.

And that 1998 remake did not do horrible in the ratings and it made some money. :weary_cat:

Dirty Rotten Scoundrels is a great movie. I only recently learned it was a remake. I’ve never seen the original. Got a great cast, though.

And Airplane! is much better than the original.

Father of the Bride, I liked both, also their sequels.

The Prisoner of Zenda. About the only difference between the Colman and the Granger version was one was in black and white, the other in color. They used the same script.

You’re kidding, right?

The 1976 version had that awful full-sized audioanimatronic Kong that was much heralded but appeared in only a couple of scenes because it was so bad.Carlo Rambaldi’s mechanical arms were much better than the rapidly-rigged one used in 1933, but the 1933 hand wasn’t expercted to do much. But the worst was that Kong was played by a guy in a gorilla suit. Mind you, it was Rick Baker in one of his own suits (supplemented by an uncredited William Shepard), which is as good as you’re going to get in a gorilla suit, but even with the five separate face masks they made for expression, Willis O’Brien’s dimensionally animated model was superior at showing expression. And if you try to compare the similar scenes of Kong vs. the giant snake in 1976 to Kong vs. the plesiosaur in 1933, there really is no comparison – the 1976 scenes have no drama or believability at all – it looks like Baker trying to wrao himself up in a hose.

On top of which there was no reeal attempt to combine acion with background. KOng vs, the snake and Kong atop the World Trade Center vs. the helicopters were both shot at night against complete black, because they couldn’t or wouldn’t take the time and money to convince you the scenes were takin place in the Real World. The 1933 fight with the plesiosaur had at least five overlapping layers of effects – background painting to foreword glass painting to two layers of Miniature Rear Projection to miniature figures to superimposed vapor. It’s impressive as hell. The 1933 shots atop the Empre State Building have extensive and accurate background paintings of the countryside surrounding the building with recognizable landmarks, miniature animated planes in the background, Kong atop a miniature model to rhe Empire State building with minature-rear-projected Ann Darrow, and foreground of animated airplane or even a point-of-view shot as seen from the diving airplane.

1976 has a guy in a gorilla suit atop a miniature World Trade CEnter puncjing a miniture helicopter on a wire, all gainst a black background. It’s like they gave up before they even started.

The Peter Jackson 2005 version used state of the art CGI and is gorgeous. They even paid homage to the 1933 original (tin the last KOng vs. T Rex battle, both Konbg and the T rex use the same moves they did in the 1933 film, for instance). Plus they got Rick Baker to sit in the biplane cockpit and shoot Kong.

And Fay Wray was slated to deliver the “beauty killed the beast” final line, but she died before filming her one scene.

I believe PJ wanted Fay Wray to say the final line, but she was too ill.
My favorite bit was a video of the original armature of Kong vs the original pterosaur armature stop motion ideology. It isnt in the movie, I saw it in an update during production— may be a dvd extra.

Brian

Yeah; the original didn’t need to be remade, but the remake is a good one.

There was another version of that from 2019 - The Hustle. I have no idea how it actually did at the box-office.

All the '76 version of Kong had going for it is that I was 13 when I saw it. At that age anything with a monster and boobies was gold.

It’s so good that every TV version has 45 minutes chopped out of it.

I’ll go one better, a remake of a great film that is also great: West Side Story.

The 1961 film is an all-time Hollywood classic. And the 2021 Spielberg remake is excellent as well and one of the best films of the 2020s!

And note that the original 1957 film was itself a remake of a 1954 TV movie.

SFAIK, this is the original movie:

Bedtime Story (1964) - IMDb

Back in the '80s, a local TV station in Minneapolis (KITN, I think) got halfway through Bedtime Story before they realized it wasn’t Dirty Rotten Scoundrels and switched the promos during the station breaks.

They probably would never have caught on if I hadn’t phoned in and told them they were showing the wrong movie. :smirking_face:

Parts of it are, BTW, virtually identical to others in the remake.

I did not know that!

Funny how the circle completes then, in that the 1997 remake is a TV ( well, HBO ) movie.