# Remember hidden songs on 90s CDs?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** music\
**Created:** [November 29, 2022, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/remember-hidden-songs-on-90s-cds/975755 "2022-11-29T17:42:19Z")\
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After the last song on David Wilcox’s _East Ashville Hardware_ CD is a roughly 4 minute gap of dead air and ambient sound, before a fantastically subversive version of Eye of the Hurricane comes on.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/PxtQmHQ-rEk/maxresdefault.jpg "Golden Day") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxtQmHQ-rEk)

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> [@TimfromNapa](#):
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> Funny you should mention that. I’ve recently been listening to my old copy of Cracker’s album Kerosene Hat.

Post #7. 🙂

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**Post date:** [December 1, 2022, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/remember-hidden-songs-on-90s-cds/975755/43 "2022-12-01T05:07:44Z")

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I think it was “Your House” or something like that, an a capella ditty about stalking someone.

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> [@Akaj](#):
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> > [@Ike\_Witt](#):
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> > Train In Vain is not listed on London Calling.
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> True, but it follows the last listed song in normal fashion. I’m talking about the long silence in between the last listed song and the hidden one.
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> > [@duality72](#):
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> > It seems to have started in 1969 (pre-CDs) with the Beatles.
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> Again, I’m not talking about the hidden song itself but the big, silent gap that precedes it.

And that’s exactly what the Beatles did with “Her Majesty.” I remember people going to lift the tone arm, thinking the record was over.

Note that in the original jacket, “Her Majesty” was not listed at all.

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The Beatles did it after Day in the Life, too, right?

ETA: Reading further, record players with auto-return wouldn’t play that gibberish at the end, but manual ones would.

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Aaaaand… now I have that track earworming around in my head. Thanks.

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> [@RealityChuck](#):
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> And that’s exactly what the Beatles did with “Her Majesty.”

> [@RitterSport](#):
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> The Beatles did it after Day in the Life

Did you all miss the part of the OP that said **90s CDs**? The Beatles did not release “Her Majesty” in the 90s. Yes, they may have planted the seed for the long silent gaps with their 14-second silence, and yes it sure was clever at the time, but I started this thread specifically to whinge about the minutes-long silences prevalent on releases by Cracker, Nirvana, Tool and so many other 90s artists.

So enough about the damn Beatles already!

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The nice extra track on R.E.M.'s _Green_ (1988) has been mentioned.  
But…my first experience of this was in 1987. I’d heard this song “Superman” on the radio, by R.E.M. I went to Sam Goody’s (New York metro area record store chain), and asked the guy what album it’s on. “Oh, it’s on _Lifes Rich Pageant_” (released the year before). We looked at the album cover, which has a track listing (though, out of order, and with weird poetic statements added)…no “Superman”!

“That’s odd,” he said. Record stores then had these big catalog books – they looked like Yellow Pages. He looked up the album in the book, and it DID include “Superman”! So, I plunked down my $7.50, went home, played the LP, stumbled on other tracks like “Fall on Me” and “Flowers of Guatemala,” and loved R.E.M. ever since.

(I think they left “Superman” off the track list because it’s a cover? Whatever. They liked just being weird. To clarify, it IS on the album – last track.)

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**Post date:** [December 1, 2022, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/remember-hidden-songs-on-90s-cds/975755/49 "2022-12-01T15:23:47Z")

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I dunno. I found that information interesting in the context of the long gaps and “hidden tracks” you’d find on 90s CDs.

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Stone Temple Pilot’s second album, “Purple” has a hidden song (song titled “Second Album”) after song 11 finishes. It’s not even their song or performed by them. Just something that sounded good and fitting.

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The wonderful 1999 Negro Problem album _Joys and Concerns_’ 5-minute last track “Come Down Now” is followed by about 20 minutes of silence and then another 5 minutes of strange electronic noises.

> **[The Negro Problem - Joys & Concerns Album Reviews, Songs & More |...](https://www.allmusic.com/album/joys-concerns-mw0000244757)**
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> Discover Joys & Concerns by The Negro Problem released in 1999. Find album reviews, track lists, credits, awards and more at AllMusic.

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> I dunno. I found that information interesting in the context of the long gaps and “hidden tracks” you’d find on 90s CDs.

No argument, but I never miss an opportunity to say “enough about the damn Beatles already!”

I don’t dispute their enormous role in the evolution of rock and pop culture, and I own and enjoy most of their albums, but they broke up more than 50 years ago and I find myself annoyed by the ongoing attention they still receive. Don’t even get me started on “classic rock.” 😬

/derailing my own thread

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> [@Akaj](#):
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> No argument, but I never miss an opportunity to say “enough about the damn Beatles already!”

I could tell. 🙂

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I think KORN had a hidden track on just about every album.

GODSMACK did a couple of times, too.

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I thought they decided to add “Superman” after the covers had been printed, but the records, etc. hadn’t been pressed yet.

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That was better planning than the Lemonheads who shipped thousands of copies of _It’s a Shame About Ray_ before deciding to add their cover of “Mrs. Robinson” as a final track to subsequent runs of the disc.

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Paul Weller did this on his first solo album. The final track is listed as being nearly 12 minutes long, but it’s actually a normal-sized song followed by a lot of nothing followed by a pointlessly brief reprise.

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Where I notice this more now is in podcasts. Several of the podcasts I listen to will occasionally have a bunch of silence, then something akin to a credits gag.

Though I presume this would fail if people actually queue up their podcasts. That’s not something I tend to do, however. Heck, I’m likely to pause a podcast and go listen to another one.

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