# Remember, remember, the rants of November

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/remember-remember-the-rants-of-november/639560>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 1, 2012, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/remember-remember-the-rants-of-november/639560 "2012-11-01T13:52:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/remember-remember-the-rants-of-november/639560/121 "2012-11-06T16:59:27Z")

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I want to pit myself for my awful work ethic lately. I’m supposed to have been working from home in the last two days and I haven’t accomplished much. Lack of accomplishment = depression = more lack of accomplishment, etc. I really wanted to apply myself this week, too, to forget about all the madness of the last couple of weeks. I’m envious of people who cope with stress by being productive. I cope with stress by completely shutting down.

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**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/remember-remember-the-rants-of-november/639560/122 "2012-11-06T17:07:22Z")

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> [@olivesmarch4th](#):
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> I want to pit myself for my awful work ethic lately. I’m supposed to have been working from home in the last two days and I haven’t accomplished much. Lack of accomplishment = depression = more lack of accomplishment, etc. I really wanted to apply myself this week, too, to forget about all the madness of the last couple of weeks. I’m envious of people who cope with stress by being productive. I cope with stress by completely shutting down.

Don’t beat yourself up. You’re not alone. I said to fuck with it last night and waited until this morning to clean the damned kitchen up. It still needs more cleaning.

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**Author:** ![Indyellen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/indyellen/32/4176_2.png) [@Indyellen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indyellen)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/remember-remember-the-rants-of-november/639560/123 "2012-11-06T17:37:10Z")

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I love my husband very, very much. But he is slower than slow in the morning. I can be ready in 30 minutes or less; he takes his time. I know this morning he hadn’t slept well, but I really wanted to get to the polls early, so we could stop for breakfast. Didn’t happen. I was ready a full half hour or more before he was. _sigh_

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**Author:** ![Anduinel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/848f3c/32.png) [@Anduinel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anduinel)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/remember-remember-the-rants-of-november/639560/124 "2012-11-06T19:02:17Z")

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I want to smack the stupid kids I see invalidating their vote by posting pictures of their ballots online. And I want to cockpunch every member of the GOP whose voter intimidation, disenfranchisement, and outright lies have made them think they need to keep visual proof of their vote to make sure it’s counted properly.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/remember-remember-the-rants-of-november/639560/125 "2012-11-06T19:51:27Z")

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How does showing your ballot invalidate the vote?

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**Author:** ![Anduinel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/848f3c/32.png) [@Anduinel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anduinel)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/remember-remember-the-rants-of-november/639560/126 "2012-11-06T20:28:16Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> How does showing your ballot invalidate the vote?

[It’s illegal in some states to display your completed ballot.](http://www.citmedialaw.org/blog/2012/ballot-disclosure-laws-first-amendment-anomaly)

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**Author:** ![fachverwirrt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/94ad74/32.png) [@fachverwirrt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fachverwirrt)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/remember-remember-the-rants-of-november/639560/127 "2012-11-06T20:57:11Z")

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> [@Anduinel](#):
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> [It’s illegal in some states to display your completed ballot.](http://www.citmedialaw.org/blog/2012/ballot-disclosure-laws-first-amendment-anomaly)

Do you have a cite (to actual law, rather than an article) that shows that displaying your vote results in invalidation of that vote? How would such a thing be enforced?

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/remember-remember-the-rants-of-november/639560/128 "2012-11-06T21:28:54Z")

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Not possible. You cannot “invalidate” your vote by later posting it on-line.

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**Author:** ![Anduinel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/848f3c/32.png) [@Anduinel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anduinel)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/remember-remember-the-rants-of-november/639560/129 "2012-11-06T21:36:14Z")

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> [@fachverwirrt](#):
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> Do you have a cite (to actual law, rather than an article) that shows that displaying your vote results in invalidation of that vote? How would such a thing be enforced?

[From the same site, here’s a breakdown by state on which recording activities are allowed within polling places.](http://www.citmedialaw.org/state-law-documenting-vote-2012) Links to relevant state codes are included.

But it does look like the invalidation thing is internet hyperbole – the stiffest actual penalty I saw is that it’s a felony in a few of states. So apologies for spreading ignorance and for the intent to slap. The rest of it…well, we’ll see how the rest of the night goes.

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**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/remember-remember-the-rants-of-november/639560/130 "2012-11-06T22:31:46Z")

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Fuck. Why the fuck isn’t election day a federal holiday? My husband called to tell me he’s stuck in the Port Authority Bus Terminal. He has no damned idea when the hell he’ll be home. Neither one of us has voted yet. We’re both working people and we have children so we were waiting to vote together. I’ve gotten three fucking robocalls in the last ten minutes over this shit. What good is reminding me to vote and then not doing anything to make that process happen?

The election should have been postponed because of the damned hurricane. This is not fair to NJ / NYC voters!

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**Author:** ![Boggette](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/858c86/32.png) [@Boggette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boggette)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/remember-remember-the-rants-of-november/639560/131 "2012-11-07T00:19:54Z")

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> [@LavenderBlue](#):
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> … Why the fuck isn’t election day a federal holiday?..

I agree and have said for years that we should scrap Columbus Day and give us Voting Day.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/remember-remember-the-rants-of-november/639560/132 "2012-11-07T00:28:11Z")

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Too many dudes who just go on vacation rather than vote.

You do realize that most states require your employer to give you time off to vote, eh? NY being one of those.

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**Author:** ![EmilyG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/emilyg/32/364_2.png) [@EmilyG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EmilyG)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/remember-remember-the-rants-of-november/639560/133 "2012-11-07T01:02:27Z")

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A really weird rant but…I’m weird person. Here goes:

I hate it when I sit down in a (relatively empty) restaurant, food court, cafeteria, or similar place, and then someone sits near me at another table, so that they’re facing me. Which means that if/when we both happen to look up from our food, we end up looking at each other. Come on, if the cafeteria (or whatever) is still relatively empty, there are plenty of other places to sit and/or other ways you can face so that you’re not looking directly at me like that.

Maybe I’m just too socially awkward. Or weird. Or stupid.

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**Author:** ![BTEzra04](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9f8e36/32.png) [@BTEzra04](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BTEzra04)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/remember-remember-the-rants-of-november/639560/134 "2012-11-07T01:20:13Z")

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EmilyG–you’re not the only one who hates it, I agree with just how incredibly awkward it can feel.

Really mild rant: I’m noticing I hate the sound of certain heeled boots in hallways. This is really hypocritical, given that I like wearing boots myself, just don’t often because I have to walk a lot every day. Stupid brain, getting irritated at things.

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**Author:** ![Avarie537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/48db29/32.png) [@Avarie537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Avarie537)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/remember-remember-the-rants-of-november/639560/135 "2012-11-07T01:23:13Z")

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> [@Soylent\_Juicy](#):
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> So there I was at the Dog Park the other day.\<snip.
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> Anyway, this little girl was standing unattended between the two gates. \<snip\>.

This is why I’m glad our city-run dog parks forbid children under 12. Period. Sucks ass for me because I can’t take my kids but I understand why they have the rules.

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**Author:** ![Avarie537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/48db29/32.png) [@Avarie537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Avarie537)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/remember-remember-the-rants-of-november/639560/136 "2012-11-07T02:26:46Z")

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I don’t give two shits about election results until they are FINAL. For fuck’s sake I’m going to have to listen to this bullshit thanks to my husband until I go to bed. Hmmm … I think I’m getting veeeeeery sleepy.

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**Author:** ![Sahirrnee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sahirrnee/32/13937_2.png) [@Sahirrnee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sahirrnee)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/remember-remember-the-rants-of-november/639560/137 "2012-11-07T02:32:59Z")

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> [@EmilyG](#):
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> A really weird rant but…I’m weird person. Here goes:
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> I hate it when I sit down in a (relatively empty) restaurant, food court, cafeteria, or similar place, and then someone sits near me at another table, so that they’re facing me. Which means that if/when we both happen to look up from our food, we end up looking at each other. Come on, if the cafeteria (or whatever) is still relatively empty, there are plenty of other places to sit and/or other ways you can face so that you’re not looking directly at me like that.
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> Maybe I’m just too socially awkward. Or weird. Or stupid.

Nope you’re not weird at all.  
I can’t remember the name of the book I read years ago about body language and personal space. Typically people will space themselves throughout the available space. The researcher had volunteers sit close to people when there were other spaces available and most people were uncomfortable with it, one even going so far as to ask the volunteer to move.  
It has to do with the personal space we all carry around ourselves and most of us don’t like our space invaded, and some of us (like me) need a lot of space around us to be comfortable.  
You will tolerate someone standing close to you on a crowded elevator, not so much in a wide open room.

Then again I get pretty annoyed when I park my new truck out at the end of a parking lot to avoid scratches and dings and some idiot will park in the spot right next to me.

Some people are just weird.

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**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/remember-remember-the-rants-of-november/639560/138 "2012-11-07T02:48:15Z")

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My husband finally got home at 7 so we got to vote. Go Obama go!

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**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/remember-remember-the-rants-of-november/639560/139 "2012-11-07T03:14:01Z")

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> [@EmilyG](#):
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> A really weird rant but…I’m weird person. Here goes:
> 
> I hate it when I sit down in a (relatively empty) restaurant, food court, cafeteria, or similar place, and then someone sits near me at another table, so that they’re facing me. Which means that if/when we both happen to look up from our food, we end up looking at each other. Come on, if the cafeteria (or whatever) is still relatively empty, there are plenty of other places to sit and/or other ways you can face so that you’re not looking directly at me like that.
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> Maybe I’m just too socially awkward. Or weird. Or stupid.

> [@sahirrnee](#):
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> Nope you’re not weird at all.  
> I can’t remember the name of the book I read years ago about body language and personal space. Typically people will space themselves throughout the available space. The researcher had volunteers sit close to people when there were other spaces available and most people were uncomfortable with it, one even going so far as to ask the volunteer to move.  
> It has to do with the personal space we all carry around ourselves and most of us don’t like our space invaded, and some of us (like me) need a lot of space around us to be comfortable.  
> You will tolerate someone standing close to you on a crowded elevator, not so much in a wide open room.
> 
> Then again I get pretty annoyed when I park my new truck out at the end of a parking lot to avoid scratches and dings and some idiot will park in the spot right next to me.
> 
> Some people are just weird.

Back in the days when “No Smoking” sections in restaurants were just suggestions, and usually ignored, I could pretty much count on someone sitting down next to me in a cafeteria and lighting up. Even if there weren’t any ashtrays on the nearby tables, and even if the place was damned near empty.

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**Author:** ![EmilyG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/emilyg/32/364_2.png) [@EmilyG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EmilyG)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/remember-remember-the-rants-of-november/639560/140 "2012-11-07T03:19:46Z")

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Thank you, **sahirrnee**.

Wow, **Lynn Bodoni** , times sure have changed.

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