# Remembering the Fitz - November 10, 1975 **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [November 10, 2010, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/remembering-the-fitz-november-10-1975/560151 "2010-11-10T06:19:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2010, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/remembering-the-fitz-november-10-1975/560151/41 "2010-11-12T15:45:55Z")
No, just an ice water mansion. ---
**Author:** ![mnemosyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c4cdca/32.png) [@mnemosyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mnemosyne)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2010, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/remembering-the-fitz-november-10-1975/560151/42 "2010-11-14T02:14:33Z")
The bottom of most deep lakes is at about 4C, the temperature at which water is densest. The Great Lakes don’t freeze to the bottom, and so the densest water falls while less-dense (colder and warmer) water rises. So I assume the Fitz has been at that temperature pretty much since she went down, and as said, it’s not a freezer. ---
**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2010, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/remembering-the-fitz-november-10-1975/560151/43 "2010-11-14T14:16:09Z")
> [@mnemosyne](#): > > The bottom of most deep lakes is at about 4C, the temperature at which water is densest. The Great Lakes don’t freeze to the bottom, and so the densest water falls while less-dense (colder and warmer) water rises. So I assume the Fitz has been at that temperature pretty much since she went down, and as said, it’s not a freezer. But it is a fridge. . . 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2010, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/remembering-the-fitz-november-10-1975/560151/44 "2010-11-14T16:01:04Z")
> [@acsenray](#): > > The bodies were not recovered, so what’s left of them is down there, but after 35 years, it’s not going to be much. It’s not a freezer. A few years ago,when I used to surf the web at work for 6 hours a day, I was checking out some sites about Big Fitz. I came across some site that claimed they had conducted the “last dive ever allowed” (or some such claim) and “hinted” they had recovered or photographed some remains. However, you had to pony up some cash to access _that_ part of the site, so thats all I got. ---
**Author:** ![mnemosyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c4cdca/32.png) [@mnemosyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mnemosyne)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2010, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/remembering-the-fitz-november-10-1975/560151/45 "2010-11-14T17:26:38Z")
> [@TruCelt](#): > > But it is a fridge. . . 😉 Yep. And I don’t know about your fridge, but I sure wouldn’t consider anything put in mine for 35 years to be “preserved”! :eek: ---
**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2010, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/remembering-the-fitz-november-10-1975/560151/46 "2010-11-14T20:19:36Z")
Yeras ago, a long time ex navy CPO told me that Lake Erie has the most dangerous storms-the lake is so shallow that the waves pile up-30’ waves are not uncommon. Superior is much deeper, so I would expect the wave heights to be lower. ---
**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2010, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/remembering-the-fitz-november-10-1975/560151/47 "2010-11-15T15:12:41Z")
> [@mnemosyne](#): > > Yep. And I don’t know about your fridge, but I sure wouldn’t consider anything put in mine for 35 years to be “preserved”! :eek: Ewwwwww! ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2010, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/remembering-the-fitz-november-10-1975/560151/48 "2010-11-15T18:47:34Z")
> [@ralph124c](#): > > Superior is much deeper, so I would expect the wave heights to be lower. That would not be the case. Waves on Lake Superior have been measured at over 30 feet, while the biggest waves on Erie (during a storm surge, or seiche) were measured at 22 feet. Waves on a shallower lake may have more ‘chop’ or ‘curl’, and may come with higher frequency. But for size and power they generally won’t match waves in deeper bodies of water. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/remembering-the-fitz-november-10-1975/560151.md?page=2)