Remote viewing is real--and the truth is being seen by the media...

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I think I’ve decoded what Aeschines is trying to say here, and I want to make sure all of my fellow “skeptos” are debating the same topic.

He’s not saying RV is real because it was on Japanese TV. He’s not even offereing this show as evidence that RV is real. He’s saying RV is real (we have to take that as a given), and finally the media has decided to stop covering it up!

Read his op again, that’s really what he’s saying.

So, I’m willing to let him off the hook on the “this entertainment show proves RV is real” thing.

I just want him to prove (or otherwise convince us) that

  1. The media (and, by extension the pulbic in general) gives more credence to paranormal phenomena than they did at some point in the past, and
  2. More people believing this hogswallop without evidence means we “skeptos” should give up.

Those seem to be the assertions he’s debating. He refuses to post cites on the other topics because he claims that’s not what he’s arguing… if we focus on what he IS arguing about, maybe we can get some sort of evidence.

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“My friend, you have seen this incident based on sworn testimony. Can you prove that it didn’t happen? Perhaps on your way home, you will pass someone in the dark, and you will never know it, for they will be from outer space. Many scientists believe that another world is watching us this moment. We once laughed at the horseless carriage, the aeroplane, the telephone, the electric light, vitamins, radio, and even television! And now some of us laugh at outer space. God help us . . . in the future.”

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Shoot. I was just about to post that I had a vision of Eve writing that very post, but she was too quick for me.

Still, I think you’ll all agree that I’ve proved I have visions. I mean, nobody would put something on line that wasn’t true, right?

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Greetings, Photopat. We are all interested in the future, for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our lives. And remember, Photopat, future events such as these will affect you in the future. You are interested in the unknown, the mysterious, the unexplainable. That is why you are here. And now, for the first time, we are bringing to you the full story of what happened on Japanese TV. We are giving you all the evidence, based only on the secret testimonies of the miserable souls who survived this terrifying ordeal. The incidents, the places, my friend we cannot keep this a secret any longer. Let us punish the guilty, let us reward the innocent. My friend, can your heart stand the shocking facts about *remote viewing on Japanese TV? *

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Below are just some fun highlights from Aeschines’ participation in a recent thread. The purpose is only to remind you that it is not always possible to fight ignorance and doing so sometimes just causes it to flourish. Sometimes a good skeptic does fail to prove his point, but only because they mis-judge the aptitude of the one they are trying to reach. So take heart, it’s not your fault. There was really nothing you could do to save this one. He is lost.:wink:

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To be perfectly honest, I preferred the past; some folks say the past is a foreign country, but the food was better, to be sure, and the people didn’t smell.

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Well, the food might have been better, but a lot of the people did smell.

As Monty Python put it:

“'E must be a king.”

“How can you tell?”

“'E’s not covered in shit.”
:cool:

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Looking now over this thread, it is hard not to cringe in shame. My OP was not only poorly written, it was poorly conceived as well.

Further, I was naive to think that this would be a civil discussion, a mutually satisfying attempt to explore new truths. Rather, having merely stated my premise (though poorly, as recognized above), I was greeted with a fussilade of mockery. Outright derision. Insults that cut to the bone.

I have been called a “tinfoiler” and a “credulous fool.” My language skills have been doubted, if not outright denied. And, sadly, my childish reaction to this crass but cunning negativity was to lash out with my own crude expletives and pejorative palaver.

Truly, it was like Neo versus the Smiths in the park. One against hundreds. But in this case Neo was defeated within two minutes, despite his ignorance of that fact. Blackened and absorbed by the hand of his foe.

In short, my friends, you have made a skeptic of me. I sit now an acolyte in the Temple of Reason, praying that you will not toss me to the Cerberus of Belief, that waits in hunger outside the door. Nor will I light a candle for the faith I’ve lost, but rather one to that true light of modernity: skepticism.

Friends, it is your choice whether to greet me with arms widened for embrace, or sullenly akimbo. I truly hope it is the former pose.

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Yeah, right.
Next time, bring facts.
Since you do not wish to participate in an actual debate on the issue you brought up in the first place, I think I’ll just lock this thread.