# Rename the LotR book(s)!

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**Created:** [February 2, 2003, 10:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rename-the-lotr-book-s/152284 "2003-02-02T10:38:33Z")\
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**Post date:** [February 2, 2003, 10:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rename-the-lotr-book-s/152284/1 "2003-02-02T10:38:33Z")

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This thread was inspired by this posting in the ‘Which Two Towers?’ thread:

> [@](#):
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> _originally posted by Monstre_ (bolding mine)  
> When I first read the series, back in junior high, I remember thinking that the two towers referred to were Minas Tirith and Minas Morgul. Looks like Peter Jackson’s interpretation was Orthanc and Barad Dur.
> 
> …
> 
> Orthanc does make sense to me, since Saruman is the primary enemy of Book III. Barad Dur doesn’t make as much sense, since Frodo’s not in Mordor yet in Book IV.
> 
> \*\*Perhaps a rename is in order. How about Dude, Where’s My Towers? \*\*

I have a few suggestions of my own:

Frodo Baggins’ Day Out

The Elvish Princess Bride

The Usual Maiar Suspects

Bring Me The Head Of The Ringbearer

Citizen Saruman

Burning Trees With Wolves

OK, it’s your turn!

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**Post date:** [February 2, 2003, 10:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rename-the-lotr-book-s/152284/2 "2003-02-02T10:39:41Z")

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Monty Python and the Two Towers.

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**Post date:** [February 2, 2003, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rename-the-lotr-book-s/152284/3 "2003-02-02T12:17:20Z")

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Planet of the Rings

Beneath the Planet of the Rings

Escape from the Planet of the Rings

Conquest of the Planet of the Rings

Battle for the Planet of the Rings

Planet of the Rings (Tim Burton remake version)

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**Post date:** [February 2, 2003, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rename-the-lotr-book-s/152284/4 "2003-02-02T12:29:05Z")

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I know, I cheated, they weren’t books. Try again:

Middle Earth

Middle Earth Messiah

Children of Middle Earth

God Emperor of Middle Earth

Heretics of Middle Earth

Chapter House Middle Earth

_and by Christopher Tolkein:_

Prelude to Middle Earth

1. House Finwe
2. House Olwe
3. House Elwe
4. Melkorian Jihad

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**Post date:** [February 2, 2003, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rename-the-lotr-book-s/152284/5 "2003-02-02T12:40:05Z")

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> [@](#):
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> _originally posted by Desmostylus_  
> Planet of the Rings
> 
> Beneath the Planet of the Rings
> 
> Escape from the Planet of the Rings
> 
> Conquest of the Planet of the Rings
> 
> Battle for the Planet of the Rings
> 
> Planet of the Rings (Tim Burton remake version)

“Stop the Planet of the Rings, I Want To Get Off” (The stage-musical featuring Troy McClure)

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**Post date:** [February 2, 2003, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rename-the-lotr-book-s/152284/6 "2003-02-02T13:23:07Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Desmostylus \*  
> I know, I cheated, they weren’t books.

Don’t worry, anything goes!  
(The original suggestions were all films…)

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**Post date:** [February 2, 2003, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rename-the-lotr-book-s/152284/7 "2003-02-02T13:46:12Z")

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Le Comte de Monte Doom

Les Trois Hobbits

Le Chevalier de Orthanc

Le Chevalier de Minas Tirith

Le Vicomte de Rivendell

(All by Alexandre Tolkeinas)

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**Post date:** [February 2, 2003, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rename-the-lotr-book-s/152284/8 "2003-02-02T13:54:52Z")

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Gone With The Ring

To Kill a Hobbit

A Tale Of Two Towers

One Flew Over Mount Doom - (I don’t know how to really spell th ename of that perticular mountain.)

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**Post date:** [February 2, 2003, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rename-the-lotr-book-s/152284/9 "2003-02-02T14:14:44Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Jack Batty \*  
> \*\*A Tale Of Two Towers  
> \*\*

B\*\*\*\*\*d. I wish I’d thought of that one. Well done!

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**Post date:** [February 2, 2003, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rename-the-lotr-book-s/152284/10 "2003-02-02T18:11:35Z")

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The Fellowship Of The Ring:  
The Nine  
The Notorious Nine.

The Two Towers:  
Losta Towers

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**Post date:** [February 2, 2003, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rename-the-lotr-book-s/152284/11 "2003-02-02T18:12:37Z")

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Sorry that should be: “Lotsa Towers”

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**Post date:** [February 2, 2003, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rename-the-lotr-book-s/152284/12 "2003-02-02T21:37:13Z")

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Wow - I inspired a thread! 🙂

Okay, while I still have to stick by my “D,WMT?” title, here is another set of possibilities, based on the Tolkien’s original division of the work into 6 “books” (rather than the usual titles for the “trilogy”).

Book I: Frodo and Sam’s Excellent Adventure  
Book II: O Gandalf, Where Art Thou?  
Book III: War and Trees  
Book IV: Frodo and Sam’s Bogus Journey  
Book V: Orcs and Uruks and Nazgul, O My!  
Book VI: Frodo Versus the Volcano

What do you think, sirs?

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**Post date:** [February 2, 2003, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rename-the-lotr-book-s/152284/13 "2003-02-02T23:36:31Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Monstre \*  
> Wow - I inspired a thread! 🙂
> 
> Okay, while I still have to stick by my “D,WMT?” title, here is another set of possibilities, based on the Tolkien’s original division of the work into 6 “books” (rather than the usual titles for the “trilogy”).
> 
> Book I: Frodo and Sam’s Excellent Adventure  
> Book II: O Gandalf, Where Art Thou?  
> Book III: War and Trees  
> Book IV: Frodo and Sam’s Bogus Journey  
> Book V: Orcs and Uruks and Nazgul, O My!  
> Book VI: Frodo Versus the Volcano
> 
> What do you think, sirs?

I think that “Frodo and Sam’s Bogus Journey” deserves: 😃 😃 !

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**Post date:** [February 3, 2003, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rename-the-lotr-book-s/152284/14 "2003-02-03T01:44:58Z")

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I. Frodo and Sam’s Excellent Adventure. (ala monstre - but we were both thinking the same thing).

II.Wraith’s World  
III Dude! Where’s My Ring?

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**Post date:** [February 3, 2003, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rename-the-lotr-book-s/152284/15 "2003-02-03T01:48:56Z")

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If it were a porno:

Lord of the Cockrings.

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**Post date:** [February 3, 2003, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rename-the-lotr-book-s/152284/16 "2003-02-03T02:19:40Z")

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The Shadow of the Abhorred[sup]\*[/sup]

The Ring of the Conciliator

The Sword of the King

The Citadel of the Steward

[sup]\*[/sup]Sauron was “The Abhorred”

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**Post date:** [February 3, 2003, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rename-the-lotr-book-s/152284/17 "2003-02-03T04:31:41Z")

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Book 1: Rings In The Attic

Book 2: The Hunt For Frodo In October

Book 3: The Seven Habits of Highly Effective Wizards

Book 4: Bang the Gollum Slowly

Book 5: Something Wicked On a Flying Monster Thing Comes

Book 6: Catch-Aringinmountdoom

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The Sue Grafton approach, but I’d need to further subdivide the books:

Prolog:  
A is for Alchemy (and the forging of the rings)  
Book 1:  
B is for Baggins  
C is for Caradhras  
Book 2:  
D is for Dunedain  
E is for Ents  
Book 3:  
F is for Frodo  
G is for Gollum  
Appendix:  
H is for Havens

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Or there’s the Erle Stanley Gardner approach:

Book I:  
The Case of the Ruling Ring  
The Case of the Broken Fellowship  
Book II:  
The Case of the Sorry Saruman  
The Case of the Grumbling Gollum  
Book III:  
The Case of the Nasty Nazgul  
The Case of the Fiery Forge

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**Post date:** [February 3, 2003, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rename-the-lotr-book-s/152284/20 "2003-02-03T06:11:03Z")

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The Many-Colored Middle Earth

The Golden Ring

The Born King

The Adversary

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