# Renew my Faith in my Fellow Man -- Bump Stocks sell out in Gun Stores **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 5, 2017, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/renew-my-faith-in-my-fellow-man-bump-stocks-sell-out-in-gun-stores/798034 "2017-10-05T16:43:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2017, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/renew-my-faith-in-my-fellow-man-bump-stocks-sell-out-in-gun-stores/798034/61 "2017-10-07T01:58:16Z")
And how is, per the news reports, a rifle equipped with a bump stock NOT something less than a recoil-operated machine gun? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2017, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/renew-my-faith-in-my-fellow-man-bump-stocks-sell-out-in-gun-stores/798034/62 "2017-10-07T02:41:02Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > And how is, per the news reports, a rifle equipped with a bump stock NOT something less than a recoil-operated machine gun? Even with the stock, you still need to maintain a forward pull on the rifle. The stock basically makes it possible to hold the rifle more firmly than in manual bump-firing. The strict legal reasoning is that the finger makes contact with the trigger by the action of the shooter pulling the gun into the finger. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2017, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/renew-my-faith-in-my-fellow-man-bump-stocks-sell-out-in-gun-stores/798034/63 "2017-10-07T03:03:03Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > When I was being taught to shoot it was with single-shot .22s. The point of the operation was accuracy. I cannot imagine any fun spraying and praying expensive ammunition from a weapon that walks so bad the that hitting the side of a barn is a a chore, unless your joy comes from slaughtering people penned in so aim is unnecessary. That is it. He wanted to kill people. He had lots of money for ammo, and being dead has no need to buy more. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2017, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/renew-my-faith-in-my-fellow-man-bump-stocks-sell-out-in-gun-stores/798034/64 "2017-10-07T19:33:35Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > Gotta get 'em all, before they get outlawed. Because you need a bump stock to … well, to utterly anhilate and liquefy deer, I guess. You say “liquefy deer” like it’s a bad thing. \*one narrowly decided against wrecking my car on the way to work Friday.] ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2017, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/renew-my-faith-in-my-fellow-man-bump-stocks-sell-out-in-gun-stores/798034/65 "2017-10-07T21:16:42Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > You say “liquefy deer” like it’s a bad thing. Difficult to eat that way. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2017, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/renew-my-faith-in-my-fellow-man-bump-stocks-sell-out-in-gun-stores/798034/66 "2017-10-07T21:27:21Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Difficult to eat that way. Liquid meals for the hunter on the go. ---
**Author:** ![Lucky\_Mike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de053/32.png) [@Lucky\_Mike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucky_Mike)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2017, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/renew-my-faith-in-my-fellow-man-bump-stocks-sell-out-in-gun-stores/798034/67 "2017-10-07T21:54:46Z")
> [@madsircool](#): > > You’ll be happy to have a couple when the zombies rise up. You are incorrect my friend. As demonstrated in the epic book WWZ, the automatic weapons of the military designed to benefit from the individual shock and impact from wounds, were insufficient in dealing with the Zombie apocalypse. Zombies do not go in shock, they do not worry about a limb being hit. Their combat effectiveness is only diminished by a head shot. In a post-apoc world of limited resources, ammunition was critical and every shot counted. Rather than relying on a small percentage of the populace to defend the main society with weapons of shock and awe, the only way to survive was with everyone firing for a killing shot. In the end, revolutionary war style tactics (battle and skirmish lines), coupled with semi-automatic, low recoil, and highly accurate weapons, were the methodology used to push the Zombies back. The ability to hit one Zombie at a time, in the head, while preserving ammo, and maximizing coverage with long lines of combatants, was the most effective strategy. The guy with a bump stock would have been stared at by every one on the line as an epic idiot. Yes, I am joking, but serious. Seriously joking. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/renew-my-faith-in-my-fellow-man-bump-stocks-sell-out-in-gun-stores/798034.md?page=3)