# Repeal the 19th? What war on women? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 12, 2016, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repeal-the-19th-what-war-on-women/768361 "2016-10-12T22:12:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Twoflower](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/twoflower/32/22_2.png) [@Twoflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Twoflower)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repeal-the-19th-what-war-on-women/768361/21 "2016-10-13T01:01:03Z")
I’m thinking that if all the women who believe that women shouldn’t be allowed to vote, simply didn’t vote themselves, we’d all be better off. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repeal-the-19th-what-war-on-women/768361/22 "2016-10-13T01:02:34Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > Wait, we could get them bicycles with baskets on the front and back. Hell yes. This would cut the traffic in half, reduce imported oil, and make car insurance affordable again. Brilliant! I am emailing my Congressperson this excellent suggestion. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repeal-the-19th-what-war-on-women/768361/23 "2016-10-13T01:04:41Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > We could take away their right to drive too. Only, then we’d have to get off our asses and drive them to the store to buy our dinner, so that might not be an option. > > Wait, we could get them bicycles with baskets on the front and back. Hell yes. This would cut the traffic in half, reduce imported oil, and make car insurance affordable again. > [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > Brilliant! I am emailing my Congressperson this excellent suggestion. Wouldn’t forbidding them from leaving the house without a male escort cut back on traffic even more? I’ll bet Ted Cruz would sign on immediately. ---
**Author:** ![tenacious\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/439d5e/32.png) [@tenacious\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tenacious_j)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repeal-the-19th-what-war-on-women/768361/24 "2016-10-13T01:08:22Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > Well if we gave the vote to children, and then people started to target children in their campaigns… > > To be honest the thing that annoys me isn’t the sexism behind a person backing a Repeal the 19th strategy, it’s that despite going out of his way to alienate women, Mexicans, Asians, Blacks, etc. Trump is still at nearly 50% of the popular vote. If you do the math, his support should be limited to white, male, Republicans which is only about 15% of the population. So almost 35% of the population is supporting Trump rather than finding a reasonable alternative like Johnson, or abstaining from the vote, just because they’ve been told that the alternative is a Democrat becoming President again. > > Jesus Christ people, which party do you think has been running the country for the last 8 years? Are you being held over a flaming pit by cackling demons? Or are you going about your life in roughly the same way you were in 2005, 1995, and 1985? And I’ll grant that argument may point to the fact that the choice of President is largely immaterial to your life but this isn’t high school and we aren’t voting on the President of the Student Council. There are more important things in the world than backing a sports team and sticking with it. And while the President and the Federal government may largely be irrelevant to your life, it is important to the world and in the long run to the fate of our nation. It’s not a game. They are going about their lives exactly the same, except in a sad little fear-bubble. Now they are more convinced than ever that Mexican rapists will take their jobs, that cross-dressing rapists will assault their kids in bathrooms, that “they” are coming for the guns, and/or that refugee=terrorist. None of it is true, of course, but once you surround yourself with so much wrong, it’s hard to see the truth, or admit you’re wrong. It’s easier to make excuses and rearrange the world to suit your own theories. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repeal-the-19th-what-war-on-women/768361/25 "2016-10-13T01:29:54Z")
At this point they HAVE to be trolling the country, right? Right? Alternately, please let them push this over the next few weeks. It might be worth an extra senator or two. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repeal-the-19th-what-war-on-women/768361/26 "2016-10-13T01:42:30Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Wouldn’t forbidding them from leaving the house without a male escort cut back on traffic even more? > I’ll bet Ted Cruz would sign on immediately. Too late. Pence already authored the bill. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repeal-the-19th-what-war-on-women/768361/27 "2016-10-13T02:15:54Z")
I have been wishing someone would bring back periods for pence. after all, as interested as he was in the menstrual cycles of indiana women, surely he must be dying to know about the cycles of all american women, right? ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repeal-the-19th-what-war-on-women/768361/28 "2016-10-13T02:30:04Z")
> [@Psychopants](#): > > I should pit myself for thinking that rock bottom was a long time ago and there is nowhere left to go but up. Isn’t there a saying along the lines of, “Politics is understanding that there is no such thing as rock bottom”? ---
**Author:** ![Psychopants](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Psychopants](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Psychopants)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repeal-the-19th-what-war-on-women/768361/29 "2016-10-13T03:01:49Z")
> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > Isn’t there a saying along the lines of, “Politics is understanding that there is no such thing as rock bottom”? i’m an optomist. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repeal-the-19th-what-war-on-women/768361/30 "2016-10-13T03:09:23Z")
Why stop with the 19th? Repeal the 13th as well. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repeal-the-19th-what-war-on-women/768361/31 "2016-10-13T03:42:25Z")
‘In voting for Trump the consequences will not be dire for me, but we will have sent a message to corrupt politicians that they cannot buy us. Business profits directly by being cozy with politicians and so they are able to ship jobs overseas and leave my community with nothing but fast food restaurant jobs. For years I have listened to Republican candidates, people I have voted for, tell me wealth just requires effort and those without jobs are simply lazy. I am not lazy and I am tired of being out of work. Democrats are an entirely different people, not like us, they don’t share my values.’ This is the mindset, I think. And I don’t think it’s crazy. I understand it, even if I don’t agree with the vote it brings. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repeal-the-19th-what-war-on-women/768361/32 "2016-10-13T04:10:47Z")
> [@Psychopants](#): > > i’m an optomist. I try to be a realist. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repeal-the-19th-what-war-on-women/768361/33 "2016-10-13T04:22:11Z")
OTOH, it is said, “The path of least resistance is downhill. Eventually you end up in a deep, dark hole.” That suggests the path of most resistance is uphill, and that it eventually leads to the top. So one is an observation, the other a moral lesson: Fight! Resist! ---
**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repeal-the-19th-what-war-on-women/768361/34 "2016-10-13T05:42:42Z")
> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > OTOH, it is said, “The path of least resistance is downhill. Eventually you end up in a deep, dark hole.” Nah, you can stop down by the river. In your van. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repeal-the-19th-what-war-on-women/768361/35 "2016-10-13T06:29:10Z")
> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > OTOH, it is said, “The path of least resistance is downhill. Eventually you end up in a deep, dark hole.” > > That suggests the path of most resistance is uphill, and that it eventually leads to the top. So one is an observation, the other a moral lesson: Fight! Resist! Progress it seems to many, by definition, is always right. IS progress, whatever the cost, the greater good? I consider myself a liberal and for me these are still far from tautologies. ---
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 10:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repeal-the-19th-what-war-on-women/768361/36 "2016-10-13T10:16:48Z")
Bless the internet’s little cotton socks. These few lunatics would never have been heard from were it not for the power of social media. It really isn’t worth getting angry about. These people are of zero consequence. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 10:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repeal-the-19th-what-war-on-women/768361/37 "2016-10-13T10:21:12Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > Bless the internet’s little cotton socks. These few lunatics would never have been heard from were it not for the power of social media. It really isn’t worth getting angry about. These people are of zero consequence. Except for the part where one of the major party candidates for president is actively catering to their demands. ---
**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 10:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repeal-the-19th-what-war-on-women/768361/38 "2016-10-13T10:26:11Z")
> [@Psychopants](#): > > i’m an optomist. I try to be an optometrist, but then they find out I only have a computer science degree and indict me on bullshit charges like “pretending to be a medical professional.” ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repeal-the-19th-what-war-on-women/768361/39 "2016-10-13T10:47:16Z")
Are you sure it isn’t a fake-out? Perhaps there’ll be a follow-up about a country where women don’t have the right to vote, like Saudi Arabia? ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 10:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repeal-the-19th-what-war-on-women/768361/40 "2016-10-13T10:55:01Z")
I like that the conclusion to ‘‘women and men are voting differently’’ is ‘‘women shouldn’t vote,’’ not, “women clearly have a different experience in the world and it seems what is in my best interest as a man may not be in theirs. Gosh, maybe my experience of the world isn’t the only one.” This is asking too much, right? > [@aldiboronti](#): > > Bless the internet’s little cotton socks. These few lunatics would never have been heard from were it not for the power of social media. It really isn’t worth getting angry about. These people are of zero consequence. This reminds me of a FB post going around about ‘‘White people complain Luke Cage is racist because it has too many black people.’’ Then you click and there are like two tweets. Yes, all those white people, clearly outraged. :rolleyes: I think we could use this in our favor, though. When that shit goes viral (if it already hasn’t) it’s going to scare the shit out of women, and they will go vote. Whether it’s really worth being upset about is immaterial if being upset about it could lead to something potentially good. [QUOTE=Sitnam] Progress it seems to many, by definition, is always right. IS progress, whatever the cost, the greater good? I consider myself a liberal and for me these are still far from tautologies. [/QUOTE] What specific progress do you suppose may not be worth its cost? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repeal-the-19th-what-war-on-women/768361.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repeal-the-19th-what-war-on-women/768361.md?page=3)