# Repeal the 19th?  What war on women?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repeal-the-19th-what-war-on-women/768361>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 12, 2016, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repeal-the-19th-what-war-on-women/768361 "2016-10-12T22:12:24Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repeal-the-19th-what-war-on-women/768361/41 "2016-10-13T11:10:28Z")

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> [@Sitnam](#):
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> Progress it seems to many, by definition, is always right. IS progress, whatever the cost, the greater good? I consider myself a liberal and for me these are still far from tautologies.

Some would say it’s the other way around: that which leads to the greater good, is what is real progress.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Angel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d26b3c/32.png) [@Johnny\_Angel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Angel)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repeal-the-19th-what-war-on-women/768361/42 "2016-10-13T13:08:53Z")

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> [@Terminus\_Est](#):
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> Why stop with the 19th? Repeal the 13th as well.

Maybe if 538 did a chart of who would be winning if black people didn’t get a vote, we’d see calls for a repeal of the 13th.

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**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repeal-the-19th-what-war-on-women/768361/43 "2016-10-13T13:40:58Z")

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> [@Terminus\_Est](#):
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> Why stop with the 19th? Repeal the 13th as well.

All prime-numbered amendments should go! The 17th is suspect, and we can sure as hell do without the 1st!

Wait, what…2 is a prime number? No way, it’s even…

Never mind. The plan to repeal all the prime-number amendments was started by Hilary and Obama.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repeal-the-19th-what-war-on-women/768361/44 "2016-10-13T14:01:56Z")

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1 is not a prime number…

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**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repeal-the-19th-what-war-on-women/768361/45 "2016-10-13T14:35:44Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> 1 is not a prime number…

Facts should never get in the way of a good rant.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repeal-the-19th-what-war-on-women/768361/46 "2016-10-13T15:01:05Z")

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> [@CairoCarol](#):
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> Facts should never get in the way of a good rant.

As was pointed out by Einstein when speaking to the United Nations in 2007, _facts_ and _farts_ differ only by a single letter.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repeal-the-19th-what-war-on-women/768361/47 "2016-10-13T15:03:19Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Angel](#):
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> Maybe if 538 did a chart of who would be winning if black people didn’t get a vote, we’d see calls for a repeal of the 13th.

You can do that. They have a toy where you can adjust turnout and vote preference for different groups.

Without the black vote, Trump would win.

> **[What Would It Take To Flip States In The 2016 Election?](https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-swing-the-election/?ex_cid=navlink)**
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> See how changes in preference and turnout by different demographic groups would affect the 2016 election.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repeal-the-19th-what-war-on-women/768361/48 "2016-10-13T15:29:04Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> You can do that. They have a toy where you can adjust turnout and vote preference for different groups.
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> Without the black vote, Trump would win.
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> [What Would It Take To Flip States In The 2016 Election? | FiveThirtyEight](http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-swing-the-election/?ex_cid=navlink)

I just recently went to the 538 page for the first time. Some of the data and how they’ve displayed it is so freaking cool. I also enjoyed the post-debate podcast analysis.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repeal-the-19th-what-war-on-women/768361/49 "2016-10-13T15:35:55Z")

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Those saying that 1 is not prime are clearly Cultural Marxists bent on destroying Western Civilization! A prime is a number that can only be divided by itself and by 1, 1 can only be divided by itself and by 1!

Stop the Maxist-Islamization of Mathematics!!!1111unooneein

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repeal-the-19th-what-war-on-women/768361/50 "2016-10-13T16:20:45Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> We could take away their right to drive too. Only, then we’d have to get off our asses and drive them to the store to buy our dinner, so that might not be an option.
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> Wait, we could get them bicycles with baskets on the front and back. Hell yes. This would cut the traffic in half, reduce imported oil, and make car insurance affordable again.

Hell, make th’ broads stagger to the store to buy our dinner on STILETTO HEELS.

…I always think spike heels are so sexy.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repeal-the-19th-what-war-on-women/768361/51 "2016-10-13T18:00:57Z")

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1 is a communist number. I mean, “unity” …? COMMUNISM!!!

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repeal-the-19th-what-war-on-women/768361/52 "2016-10-13T18:20:20Z")

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> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> Shit, I had no idea this was a thing.
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> [http://www.politicususa.com/2016/10/12/trump-supporters-launch-effort-vote-women.html](http://www.politicususa.com/2016/10/12/trump-supporters-launch-effort-vote-women.html)
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> I know there is an effort to repeal the 17th and 14th amendment, but no idea the 19th was up for debate. FML.

16th, not 14th. That would get rid of the income tax.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repeal-the-19th-what-war-on-women/768361/53 "2016-10-13T18:33:38Z")

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repeal-the-19th-what-war-on-women/768361/54 "2016-10-13T18:34:36Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> 1 is a communist number. I mean, “unity” …? COMMUNISM!!!

No no no no NO, 1 is an individual (surely rugged!) communist devils hate 1, they are all for the comunity over the individual.

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repeal-the-19th-what-war-on-women/768361/55 "2016-10-13T20:27:47Z")

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> Some would say it’s the other way around: that which leads to the greater good, is what is real progress.

Beat me to it. That’s how I view things also.

Progress is good…when it actually is good.

Some years, just “not losing too much ground” is all we can ask for.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2016, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repeal-the-19th-what-war-on-women/768361/56 "2016-10-13T23:23:25Z")

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> [@CairoCarol](#):
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> All prime-numbered amendments should go! The 17th is suspect, and we can sure as hell do without the 1st!
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> Wait, what…2 is a prime number? No way, it’s even…

Yeah, it’s the token even prime. An infinite number of odd primes, and just **one** even prime.

I ask you, how can that be anything **but** tokenism to make the primes’ blatant discrimination against even numbers less obvious? 😛

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**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2016, 10:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repeal-the-19th-what-war-on-women/768361/57 "2016-10-14T10:38:18Z")

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> [@Psychopants](#):
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> Seriously.

No. Only you and your fellow hyperventilators took it seriously.

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**Author:** ![Psychopants](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Psychopants](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Psychopants)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2016, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repeal-the-19th-what-war-on-women/768361/58 "2016-10-14T12:24:42Z")

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> [@WillFarnaby](#):
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> No. Only you and your fellow hyperventilators took it seriously.

Perhaps my post #8 wasn’t clear. I can’t speak for my fellow hyperventilators, but I am not taking “it” seriously. What I am taking seriously is the stupidity of whomever originally proposed it and those who took up the cry. I don’t care if it was one person or ten million. It’s idiotic.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ea5d25/32.png) [@Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Scrappy_Hero_Pup)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2016, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repeal-the-19th-what-war-on-women/768361/59 "2016-10-14T17:26:32Z")

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> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> Hell, make th’ broads stagger to the store to buy our dinner on STILETTO HEELS.
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> …I always think spike heels are so sexy.

Dude. Be a little more sensitive.

Chicks hate it when you call 'em broads.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2016, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repeal-the-19th-what-war-on-women/768361/60 "2016-10-14T18:01:02Z")

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> [@Sitnam](#):
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> Progress it seems to many, by definition, is always right. IS progress, whatever the cost, the greater good? I consider myself a liberal and for me these are still far from tautologies.

Yes, but because it is a tautology. Progress will always be an improvement by definition. The things that shouldn’t change would not be progress if they do. IF the “cost” is too high, then it’s not yet progress to make that change. So the solution is to do something lesser that could make the cost lower.

The debate between conservatives and progressive is about what changes actually are progress. And what changes were actually regressions and need to be changed back.

For example, I know a lot of people who think that the PC culture is a regressive thing. The “regressive left,” they call it. I don’t. I think there are some not so good parts, with people going overboard through misunderstanding, but that’s true of anything. But, by and large, PC is progress.

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