Repealing the 2nd Amendment

Pretty much a strawman in that you are talking about cars, and in what you quoted he’s talking about ATVs and motorcycles, which there are plenty of folks who think that people who own them don’t ‘need’ them. Also, you didn’t address things that have less obvious utility, such as tobacco and alcohol, that cause more deaths yet has no more (I’d argue less actually) ‘beneficial use’ to society. Or the recent opening up for recreational pot use.

But then, you know all this already I’m sure…

No, guns are designed to sell. They are designed to shoot targets and be collected. A minority are used for hunting, and a tiny % ever kill a human.
Some groups still depend upon hunting for food, even in America.

And of course we could live without privately owned cars. Transport of goods & services would be by commercial vehicles, and there’s this thing called “Public transportation”.

However, what are the societal benefits of tobacco, which kills more than half a million Americans a year?

Part of English common law

specifically

I would like to outlaw you using cancer or heart disease for personal defense too.

1 in 300 people dying because of gun violence is acceptable? And we really should be concentrating on other factors? This shows how far down the gun hole Americans are.

Perhaps you didn’t understand the question I asked, which wasn’t “What is the definition and/or origin of common law?”
I asked for a list of natural rights.

"life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.”

Please tell me you’re joking.

That’s from the Declaration of Independence, I am surprised you didn’t know that.

I know where the hell it’s from.
When people talk about “Natural Rights”, do you really believe they are just referring to that one line in the D of I?

Ah, is your question only for ralfy? Is no one else is allowed to give their opinion of what "natural rights’ means to them?

Is that your complete list of “natural rights”, then?

LOOK…

SOMEHOW, IN SOME WAY (maybe in schools?..nah…)

…We have GOT to put an 18th century flintlock rifle and a semi-automatic side by side and hold the back of their heads severely DOWN while continuously repeating "Do you get it? Do you get it? DO YOU…

LOOK…

SOMEHOW, IN SOME WAY (maybe in schools?..nah…)

…We have GOT to put an *18th Printing press *and a modern computerized laser printer side by side and hold the back of their heads severely DOWN while continuously repeating "Do you get it? Do you get it? DO YOU…:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

what’s your list?

I don’t have a list, and never claimed to have a list. I asked for a list of “natural rights” because they were brought up in this thread and I thought a thorough list of whatever it is they are might help me understand them better. Instead, what I’ve gotten so far are definitions of related concepts and a cut-out from the Declaration of Independence.

Are you saying that the natural rights listed in the Declaration of Independence are bogus?

I said and/or implied no such thing, and I explained what I was looking for. Is "“life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness” your total list or not?

No, I want to know what you think of “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness” , do you accept those as natural rights?

Because if you dont, there’s no use going further as you seem loath to provide your own list.

Is the militia clause the ONLY reason for the right to bear arms, or just ONE of the reasons? Bill of Rights is a brief document, authors surely didn’t find it necessary to list EVERY possible reason to bear arms. For instance, they didn’t state: “People need to shoot game for food, therefore they have the right t bear arms”…

Hee Hee!

Printed sticks and stones mat break my bones, but…:smiley: