# Repetitive Redundancy

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repetitive-redundancy/494000>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [April 22, 2009, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repetitive-redundancy/494000 "2009-04-22T18:42:11Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2009, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repetitive-redundancy/494000/21 "2009-04-22T20:45:37Z")

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**%APR** : percentage Annual Percentage Rate  
**A.M. in the morning** : Ante Meridiem in the morning (lit. before noon in the morning)  
**ABM missile** : Antiballistic Missile missile  
**ABS system** : Antilock Braking System system  
**AC current** : Alternating Current current  
**ACT test** : American College Test test  
**ADSL line** : Asymmetric Digital Subscriber Line line  
**APL programing language** : A Programming Language programming language  
**BASIC code** : Beginner’s All-Purpose Symbolic Instruction Code code  
**CAD design** : Computer-Aided Design design  
**CNN news network** : Cable News Network news network  
**DC current** : Direct Current current  
**DMZ zone** : Demilitarized Zone zone  
**DOS operating system** : Disk Operating System operating system  
**GMT time** : Greenwich Mean Time time  
**GOP party** : Grand Old Party party  
**GRE exam** : Graduate Record Examination examination  
**HIV virus** : Human Immunodeficiency Virus virus  
**HTML language** : Hypertext Markup Language language  
**ISBN number** : International Standard Book Number number  
**ISDN network** : Integrated Services Digital Network network  
**LAN network** : Local Area Network network  
**LCD display** : Liquid Crystal Display display  
**LED diode** : Light Emitting Diode diode  
**NATO organization** : North Atlantic Treaty Organization organization  
**PC Computer** : Personal Computer computer  
**Please RSVP** : please Répondez S’il Vous Plaît (lit. please reply please)  
**RAM memory** : Random-Access Memory memory  
**SAT test** : Scholastic Assessment (or Aptitude) Test test  
**SCSI interface** : Small Computer System Interface interface  
**UPC code** : Universal Product Code code  
**VIN number** : Vehicle Identification Number number

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**Author:** ![Giles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giles/32/60_2.png) [@Giles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giles)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2009, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repetitive-redundancy/494000/22 "2009-04-22T21:09:16Z")

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> [@Wheelz](#):
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> Every time we drove past, I’d say, “Look, there’s the Discount Shoe Warehouse Shoe Warehouse!” (Reason number 4,382 I’m incredibly lucky my wife puts up with me.)

Of course, you do realise that Mrs Wheelz is keeping a mental count of these atrocities, and when that number reaches the proverbial camel-back-breaking straw, you will pay. In full. With your life, if you are lucky.

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**Author:** ![Rack-a-Bones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rack-a-Bones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rack-a-Bones)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2009, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repetitive-redundancy/494000/23 "2009-04-22T22:31:02Z")

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> [@tdn](#):
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> A few years ago someone started a Pit thread because his mother just went into a nursing home called Vista View.

When I lived in San Luis Obispo we spent many a fine afternoon at Laguna Lake.

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**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2009, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repetitive-redundancy/494000/24 "2009-04-22T22:44:44Z")

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> [@Giles](#):
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> Of course, you do realise that Mrs Wheelz is keeping a mental count of these atrocities, and when that number reaches the proverbial camel-back-breaking straw, you will pay. In full. With your life, if you are lucky.

**sigh**

It will happen sooner rather than later, I fear.

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**Author:** ![Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bc8723/32.png) [@Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fish)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2009, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repetitive-redundancy/494000/25 "2009-04-22T22:46:00Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> Torpenhow Hill = Hill Hill Hill Hill.

There’s another supply of similar [tautological place names](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tautological_place_names) at the link.

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**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2009, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repetitive-redundancy/494000/26 "2009-04-22T23:50:27Z")

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VIN number

vehicle identification number

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**Author:** ![Civil\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d78d45/32.png) [@Civil\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Civil_Guy)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2009, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repetitive-redundancy/494000/27 "2009-04-23T02:13:11Z")

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The Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim.

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**Author:** ![Fubaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@Fubaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fubaya)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2009, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repetitive-redundancy/494000/28 "2009-04-23T02:23:16Z")

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In Linux/Unix there is the BASH shell.  
BASH = Bourne-Again Shell (a pun on the earlier Bourne shell )

ETA: These are all examples of RAS syndrome (Redundant Acronym Syndrome syndrome)

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**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2009, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repetitive-redundancy/494000/29 "2009-04-23T02:31:49Z")

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PowerPC;  
Performance Optimization with Enhanced RISC Personal Computer  
and breaking down the RISC acronym we get;  
Performance Optimization with Enhanced Reduced Instruction Set Computing Personal Computer

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**Author:** ![Red\_Skeezix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aca169/32.png) [@Red\_Skeezix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Skeezix)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2009, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repetitive-redundancy/494000/30 "2009-04-23T04:04:41Z")

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> [@msmith537](#):
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> There was an old Dilbert strip where they named their project the TTP project. TTP, of course, meaning The TTP Project.

That one they might have been poking fun at all the intentionally recursive acronyms floating around in IT land.

GNU - GNU is Not Unix  
PHP - PHP Hypertext Preprocessor  
Wine - Wine Is Not an Emulator.

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**Author:** ![Snickers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Snickers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snickers)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2009, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repetitive-redundancy/494000/31 "2009-04-23T16:58:54Z")

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> [@beowulff](#):
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> There’s a sign for “Table Mesa road” on I17 North of Phoenix.

There’s also a Table Mesa area in Boulder, CO.

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**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2009, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repetitive-redundancy/494000/32 "2009-04-23T18:45:27Z")

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[QUOTE=ArchiveGuy;11065408 **ABM missile** : Antiballistic Missile missile  
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As loathe as i am to defend GovSpeak, this one should not count. It is a missle designed to shoot down a Ballistic Missile. So while it uses missile twice the terms are not refering to the _same_ missile.

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2009, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repetitive-redundancy/494000/33 "2009-04-23T21:52:19Z")

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There’s a local restaurant called the [Triple XXX](http://www.triplexxxfamilyrestaurant.com/index.html) – pronounced “Triple X”, even though a triple XXX is actually a nonuple X.

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**Author:** ![wigwag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f1d935/32.png) [@wigwag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wigwag)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2009, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repetitive-redundancy/494000/34 "2009-04-23T21:56:07Z")

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Department of Redundancy Department.

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**Author:** ![Carol\_the\_Impaler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Carol\_the\_Impaler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_the_Impaler)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2009, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repetitive-redundancy/494000/35 "2009-04-23T22:05:25Z")

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Local sandwich shop here used to serve - may still serve - soup du jour of the day.

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**Author:** ![Carol\_the\_Impaler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Carol\_the\_Impaler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_the_Impaler)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2009, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repetitive-redundancy/494000/36 "2009-04-23T22:07:26Z")

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> [@niblet\_head](#):
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> **Local** sandwich shop **here** used to serve - may still serve - soup du jour of the day.

:smack:

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Mondegreen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/91b2a8/32.png) [@Lord\_Mondegreen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Mondegreen)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repetitive-redundancy/494000/37 "2009-04-24T01:22:18Z")

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I got to visit Palo Alto last year as part of my job. The hotel in which I was staying was on El Camino Real, which I believe means “The Royal Way.” Then I was completely 😕 when I saw a cross-street called El Camino Way. Wouldn’t that be “The Way Way”?

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**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repetitive-redundancy/494000/38 "2009-04-24T05:57:33Z")

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_Repetitive Redundancy_, again? :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Gymnopithys](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/fbc32d/32.png) [@Gymnopithys](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gymnopithys)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repetitive-redundancy/494000/39 "2009-04-24T20:05:40Z")

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_“Repetitive Redundancy, again?”_

tsk tsk. Tautological pleonasm.

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**Author:** ![fachverwirrt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/94ad74/32.png) [@fachverwirrt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fachverwirrt)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2009, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repetitive-redundancy/494000/40 "2009-04-24T21:55:44Z")

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> [@Gymnopithys](#):
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> _“Repetitive Redundancy, again?”_
> 
> tsk tsk. Tautological pleonasm.

A _repetitively reduntant_ tautological pleonasm.

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