That not EVERYONE is that type of person, and you are going to hurt the honest ones. That’s all.
And people should stop stereotyping the poor. “There, but fore the grace of god”, and all that.
Huh?
That has been the point here all along.
People on food stamps are already prevented from making really poor choices with their food stamps. They can’t buy tobacco or booze. These items are bad for them. What is the big problem with adding other items that are also bad for them? 
Fiat money is irrelevant to the discussion. My wealth could be in goats, chickens, clay pots, fishing vessels, or even Beanie Babies, but it would still be mine. Not the community’s, and not the government’s.
You should sit down and make a list for these people. They apparently can not make reasonable decisions. But you are certainly qualified to make them for them . I think you should go to the local supermarket and examine every item. Then you should put what choices are acceptable to you. Are strawberries OK? How about when they are not in season and are expensive? I know there might be some iffy decisions, but you are surely up to it with all your expertise. They will thank you ,like lesser people should.
Without the rule of law, your property rights are useless. Capitalism requires a mechanism to enforce property rights. Unless the rest of us agree to help you enforce your property rights, you are at the mercy of anyone bigger and stronger than you. Or are you able to enforce your property rights yourself, with no help from the goverment? No help from the military, the police, and the courts?
There is a nice cabin in Ruby Ridge just waiting for you.
The community, or the government, is not entitled to my wealth. That’s not what the United States is about, nor has it ever been. If I comply with every tax law that there is, and I do, it STILL doesn’t mean you’re somehow entitled to my money. It’s a vicious lie to say that you are.
Is that a threat? Are you wishing death on me?
Gold, goats, same thing when the barbarian hordes come through. Fiat money forces Attiila, Jr to accept that the scrip means something, since it’s worthless if he doesn’t, which is the first step to turning Attila’s son from a harrowing nomad into a member of society, since it’s only in society that his groats are worth shit.
Bullets are cheap. You should eat a few.
intended to have this posted in the pit. :smack:
You are not responding to what you are quoting. Maybe you are responding to something else?
Regarding your second sentence above, you clearly don’t recall that entitlement to the wealth created by slaves was part of our history. Not saying that it’s good or an argument for any policy now, just reminding you that it was in our past to take from others (and in a rather nasty fashion, too).
How is saying that the taxpayers will not subside potato chips, chocolate bars, and soda “sneering” at poor people or “grind(ing) them into the dirt”?
There is nothing wrong with eating chips or soda, as long as YOU (the general you) pay for them. I can’t think of a rational reason why the taxpayers should pay for unnecessary food expenses.
Sure, you can’t get too restrictive with the program because the enforcement would become too cumbersome, but surely we can agree that potato chips, candy, chocolate, and soda have no nutritional value and should not be eligible, no?
This whole thread is a classic example of “let them eat cake”.
That’s my belief too, but we’re moving to a new era where people should not be denied anything for the silly reason that they “don’t have the money”.
As one poster noted, all money really belongs to the gov’t and they will spend it as they see fit. Social justice.
You can see this in the health care debate too. People who don’t have health insurance are just as entitled to treatments as those who pay for their insurance through lower wages. To deny that is to be a nazi or a racist.
Why doesn’t the gov’t just give everyone food vouchers and prohibit non-government stores. That way everyone would have the same food, just like they’d have the same healthcare and eventually the same housing.
No, it’s the exact opposite. It’s saying "They’ll eat cake which isn’t good for them and will make them fat and cost the gov’t billions in diabetes care, so let’s force them to buy nutritious, healthy food. Besides, it isn’t fair that the ‘poor’ buy cake with their ‘free food money’ while the people paying for that food are cutting out cake because they can’t afford it.
I didn’t say the gov’t shouldn’t feed them. They are helpless victims after all. I’m saying the gov’t should make sure they eat healthy food.
First they came for the obese poor and made them eat healthy food…and I said nothing because I was not obese or poor…
No. You said
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You could accomplish “healthy food” by cutting out a few items from the eligible list, or making those items limited availability only. Instead you want poor people to line up at the government’s “too poor to feed myself” store and bring home cans of mush.
You’re taking me out of context. I said whatever is cheapest in reponse to someone saying the gov’t couldn’t effeciently run stores. I said then contract with a manufacturer and sell it at Wal-mart or whereever.
The point about having a contract with a food company to make a mush meal is that THAT way the gov’t could be SURE people were getting correct nutrition.
No, it couldn’t “easily be solved by cutting out a few things”, as the poor may not be smart enough to eat a balanced meal. The mush would be one way to counteract that. If the mush is viewed as politically unpalatable, then maybe banning a few foods work almost as well.
That’s the first quote
That’s the second quote
Wait, where’s your response to the third quote? The one about “the point” being to make the poor uncomfortable? Where is the context for this that doesn’t paint you as a person who simply wants poor people to suffer by taking away the foods they want and replacing it with mush?
Actually, screw the mush, you can just package Prison Loaf it’s nutritionally complete, and tastes awful enough that it’s used as a punishment. Prison Loaf is a bad name though, we should re-christen it “Poverty Loaf, It tastes like we want you to feel.”