the number of murders committed by guns is the same as every other country on the planet.
I’m betting the last time you were inching forward in a line of cars waiting to pass the scene of an accident you drove past without so much as a sideways glance. Right?
The holier-than-thou is definitely thick around here.
Though I read it several times, I must have missed something in Muffin’s above post that you were responding to because I don’t understand your response, Magiver.
Are you saying that the USA has the same proportionate amount of gun murders as other first world countries? I was under the impression that the United States had many more gun murders per capita than say, your average Western European nation.
Did I have this wrong all this time? Or maybe I just misunderstood you??
You’re not wrong. There are some Third World countries with a rate of homicide by gun horrifically higher than the U.S. (including Jamaica, where I had a gun pointed at me in the midst of a misunderstanding), but we are way higher than the other industrialized countries.
I believe he is saying guns don’t kill people
Let’s not derail this into yet another gun control debate.
Some people like the morbid and gore stuff like that. It can be interesting. It’s sort of like a car accident that you can’t look away from. I mean, you could ask the same question of why do so many people rubberneck when going by a car accident? Because they’re curious.
It’s why sites like the YNC, documentingreality, liveleak, bestgore, rotten, orgrish and other sites like that exist. You may look down on them and think all that visit them are freaks and horrible people, but I’ve found (speaking for myself) it’s mostly people who find that stuff interesting or who might even be looking into getting into a line of work where that sort of thing is the norm. I’m thinking if someone had a job like cop or EMT or mortician or even lawyer/doctor, they probably have to spend some of their time looking at horrible accidents or videos where people get killed. I doubt they like doing it, but some may really have a fascination with it or be training themselves for it. For others, it could just them being intrigued about what actually happens.
Here’s another example: I have a morbid fascination with post mortem photography. Does this make me a bad or creepy person? Well, some might think so, but I imagine there are more people curious about that stuff than you’d imagine there are.
I fully confess to having looked up the full vid of the reporter getting shot. I wanted to see how it happened and just get some insight on how the situation went down and unfolded and all that.
Very well articulated. I feel much the same (except that I don’t have any interest in postmortem photos – however, I don’t begrudge your interest in them).
I haven’t watched the video, but I do have to fight the urge to watch it. I know that if I watch it, it will haunt me for a very long time, so I will continue to fight the urge.
But I don’t in any way look down on someone who does watch it. I do think if it were my actual loved one involved, I would have an even harder time resisting the desire. Which makes me wonder if any of the affected families in this are similarly conflicted.
Oh. That dodge. I didn’t see it coming. Thanks.
I watched it too. Not because I wanted to see a horrific event, but because I wanted to appreciate what those three individuals faced and the horror that ended or changed their lives. All that watching did for me was bond me to those innocent people and raise the degree of hate for the madman. If the shooter had survived, the jury would have been required to watch that video. Had I been on that jury, I would have had no trouble returning a death verdict with that degree of evidence.
You just see his hand. How was he identified?
He posted it on his social media admitting it.
Oh, yes. Thanks.
Although technically that does sound like a great way to frame someone.
What? Getting them to admit it?
That’s right. The real murderer hacked his account and faxed that manifesto to ABC. When he realized he’d been framed, there was nothing left to do but shoot himself in the head.
And Sherlock Holmes believes that he is good. :dubious:
I think it’s an excellent example. People were being murdered in the videos. You may object to viewing all murders or may only object to view murders committed WITH a firearm. Either way, someone decided to commit those murders and then proceeded to carried out those murders. The weapon of choice is a secondary consideration. Except to those who object to the private ownership of firearms.
Just to be clear, I don’t doubt that it almost certainly was the guy who posted it. I’m just saying that we shouldn’t say “open and shut, the guy posted it on his Twitter account, no other proof needed”.